MBB: The 2025 Transfer Portal
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The issue for players who have the opportunity to go pro isn’t the NIL money, it’s the rookie contract. The longer you can play after that ends the more really big money you can earn and pro careers are short.
I absolutely do not want to see any of Cooper, Kneuppel or (assuming Mario Rubio has lost interest) Malauch back at Duke next year, not because I’m not a Duke fan but because that would be a very risky and even dangerous thing for them to do given the risk of injury or hype loss, and could seriously impact their career earnings. And if you are one of the 60 people in the world who are actually going to get drafted by an NBA team you need to seize that opportunity. There is not enough chance of “moving up” or whatever to make it reasonable to pass it up.
I absolutely do not want to see any of Cooper, Kneuppel or (assuming Mario Rubio has lost interest) Malauch back at Duke next year, not because I’m not a Duke fan but because that would be a very risky and even dangerous thing for them to do given the risk of injury or hype loss, and could seriously impact their career earnings. And if you are one of the 60 people in the world who are actually going to get drafted by an NBA team you need to seize that opportunity. There is not enough chance of “moving up” or whatever to make it reasonable to pass it up.
So, I've been thinking about what Coach Scheyer might be working on this offseason. Last off season, I thought that Tyrese would be our starting point-guard. Well, I missed that one. Jon put him at the off-guard (#2) and installed Caleb as the starting point-guard. After a few games, Jon saw that wasn't working out so well and he made Sion the starting point-guard and Caleb the backup PG. It seemed to me that Tyrese was a better player at the off-guard. I don't know if Jon thought that Tyrese would be a better player by not having the point-guard duties and the job of guarding the opposing team's best perimeter player. But, I think the strategy worked. Now we're at the offseason again. I wonder if Tyrese comes back does he become the starting point-guard or will it be Cayden, Caleb or a portal point-guard. Last season we had Cooper, Kon and Sion as ball distributors, but I don't see any of Cooper and Kon returning and Sion can't return. It's going to be interesting to see what Jon has up his sleeve.
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The commitment of CUSA Player of the Year Jaron Pierre to SMU is big, if not quite absolutely final, news. (See smumustang’s post #1021 ^.) Best I can tell, he’s not declared for the NBA draft, yet is said to be “considering” it. I hope for Coach Enfield’s sake, and more important for the improvement of the ACC in ‘25-‘26, that Pierre plays for SMU. (Btw, a few weeks back UK seemed the favorite, ahead of Auburn, Arkansas, others, to land Pierre. Good for Enfield, so far.)
But I am confused as to why Pierre has a 5th year of eligibility, as I thought ‘24-‘25 was the final season for super seniors who had played in the ‘20-‘21 season.
Pierre played for Southern Mississippi in ‘20-‘21 and ‘21-‘22, then in ‘22-‘23 for Wichita St. He sat out ‘23-‘24, then played, I guess as a “redshirt senior,” for Jacksonville State in ‘24-‘25.
So by sitting out the ‘23-‘24 season, did Pierre in effect “postpone” his Covid-allowed super senior year?
But I am confused as to why Pierre has a 5th year of eligibility, as I thought ‘24-‘25 was the final season for super seniors who had played in the ‘20-‘21 season.
Pierre played for Southern Mississippi in ‘20-‘21 and ‘21-‘22, then in ‘22-‘23 for Wichita St. He sat out ‘23-‘24, then played, I guess as a “redshirt senior,” for Jacksonville State in ‘24-‘25.
So by sitting out the ‘23-‘24 season, did Pierre in effect “postpone” his Covid-allowed super senior year?
MChambers
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Yes, I think so. As I understand, the 20-21 season doesn't count towards the four year limit.
Yes, I see that this must explain Pierre’s situation. What confused me is that his situation is an exception to the general understanding that ‘24-‘25 was to be the final season we’d see “super seniors.” So now I’m curious as to how many other “postponed super seniors” will play in ‘25-‘26. For example, UofL’s J’Vonne Hadley’s frosh season was ‘20-‘21. He redshirted in ‘21-‘22, then played the next 3 seasons (Colorado and UofL). I guess Hadley may also be thought a “postponed super senior.” Any number of others??
JasonEvans
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I don't know absolute numbers but I suspect there could be a decent number of players who qualify for a "super senior" year this year as a result of playing in 20-21 (year that does not count) and then later taking a medical or other redshirt. If they played a year of JUCO (like CBM at Auburn) then they would also qualify for an extra year.
It won't be as widespread as the entire 20-21 class having an extra year, but I would think there could be perhaps a couple hundred folks who fall into this camp.
Phredd3
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Any player who played in the '20-'21 season, and also redshirted in a different year, remains eligible for a COVID season. The rule is that you had six years to complete four years of eligibility, but the '20-'21 season does not count against you, even if you played. This (2025-26) is the last of the six seasons.
From The Athletic (behind a paywall) These college basketball rosters are still one piece away from 2026 title contention
"Scheyer and his staff will be on the hunt for the next Sion James as a bulky perimeter piece who can shoulder some ball-handling duties. RJ Luis Jr. would be quite the coup as the reigning Big East Player of the Year, while Dan Skillings (Cincinnati) and Mike Sharavjamts (Utah) bring some intriguing skill packages from the Big 12. Jeremiah Williams is big but probably doesn’t offer enough shooting. Blake Harper (Howard) is younger and would be taking a massive leap in competition, but he has the academic connection and oozes upside. Considering Duke’s tremendous basketball resources, the Blue Devils could go in many different directions."
Not sounding any alarms about our pace.
"Scheyer and his staff will be on the hunt for the next Sion James as a bulky perimeter piece who can shoulder some ball-handling duties. RJ Luis Jr. would be quite the coup as the reigning Big East Player of the Year, while Dan Skillings (Cincinnati) and Mike Sharavjamts (Utah) bring some intriguing skill packages from the Big 12. Jeremiah Williams is big but probably doesn’t offer enough shooting. Blake Harper (Howard) is younger and would be taking a massive leap in competition, but he has the academic connection and oozes upside. Considering Duke’s tremendous basketball resources, the Blue Devils could go in many different directions."
Not sounding any alarms about our pace.
Yes, there was never a "2024-25 is the last year of super seniors." It was just the last year of the "traditional path" super senior (i.e., played 5 straight years). But as you said, the 2020-21 season doesn't count towards eligibility. So anyone who played the 2020-21 season and later redshirted, or played JuCo (see Chad Baker-Mazara), or who took a Mormon mission, or who got a medical waiver for a season would still have eligibility.
In fact, anyone who played the 2020-21 season, then redshirted AND was granted a medical waiver for another season would still have TWO years of eligibility left. There won't be many of those guys, but I suspect there will be more than zero. So it'll probably be another 2 seasons before we are basically fully removed from the COVID-year players.
Ah, thanks. I was simply unaware of the 6/4 rule you cite. So many posts had noted that ‘24-‘25 would see the last of the “super seniors” that I wasn’t aware of this important exception. And JE guesses above ^ that there might be 200–ish such players.
I’ll hope to trademark the designation “postponed super senior,” unless there’s already a name for this, and I missed that, too.
Nrrrrvous
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Alyn Breed, is another "super senior" that the ACC is picking up. Played three years at Providence, skipped the 23-24 season and then one year at McNeese. Now following Wade to State.
JGDUKE2008
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If Evans bounces then RJ Luis would be the guy to get
Yes, and not only is he a postponed super senior (
), but he might be one of those CDu mentioned ^ who could have 2 years of eligibility left. See final paragraph here:
McNeese St. Guard Alyn Breed is Transferring to NC State!
NC State has picked up its first commitment under Head Coach Will Wade. McNeese St. Senior Guard Alyn Breed (6’3”/190) entered the Transfer Portal today with a ‘Do Not Contact’ tag, likely because he already plans to join his former coach in Raleigh. Breed announced today his decision to...
packinsider.com
Yes, and not only is he a postponed super senior (
McNeese St. Guard Alyn Breed is Transferring to NC State!
NC State has picked up its first commitment under Head Coach Will Wade. McNeese St. Senior Guard Alyn Breed (6’3”/190) entered the Transfer Portal today with a ‘Do Not Contact’ tag, likely because he already plans to join his former coach in Raleigh. Breed announced today his decision to...
Yep. If he asks for and is granted a medical waiver for last year (and I'd imagine there is a good case for it as he played just 2 games), he would have two years of eligibility left.
JGDUKE2008
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RJ Luis is following both Boozers on INSTA and Blake Harper is following Harris and Big Pat
I’m starting to get a little worried. PackMan97 is obviously up to something out there recruiting for Will Wade, getting Breed and now trying to steal Evans from us. SMU superfan smumustang has pilfered Pierre right out from under Mark Pope’s nose at poor UK and presented him on a POY-platter to Andy Enfield. Our UVa poster chums, mostly quiet recently, are nevertheless quite busy, if stealthily so, recruiting an entirely new roster.
Are any of you lot helping Scheyer? He pretty obviously needs it, as he’s probably at the beach, wasting valuable time building sand castles and such with his kids.
Are any of you lot helping Scheyer? He pretty obviously needs it, as he’s probably at the beach, wasting valuable time building sand castles and such with his kids.
MarkD83
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Anything that pushes unc to the second tier of the ACC but keeps Duke at the top works for me
And Isiah is following NC State Basketball
So being an old timer who doesn't follow anybody on social media, what exactly has that meant historically for recruiting purposes? Does it mean the guy is basically committed emotionally to going to that school, or sometimes does it mean he is just interested socially?
I mean, maybe it doesn't matter anymore when someone announces officially if "following" someone or some team is basically an official announcement. Which I kind of doubt.
I mean, maybe it doesn't matter anymore when someone announces officially if "following" someone or some team is basically an official announcement. Which I kind of doubt.