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ehdg said:
Geez wonder if Riley is starting to regret leaving Duke for Notre Dame?
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Well most on the Notre Dame boards wish he had stayed at Duke. From what I read I was a fan of Riley as a person but from what I saw his passing was just not good enough to be a considered a top QB.
 
SoCalDukeFan said:
Well most on the Notre Dame boards wish he had stayed at Duke. From what I read I was a fan of Riley as a person but from what I saw his passing was just not good enough to be a considered a top QB.
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This is exactly my feeling. He just has no NFL future as a thrower based upon where he is now.
 
AGDukesky said:
This is exactly my feeling. He just has no NFL future as a thrower based upon where he is now.
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And yeah Riley has no shot at the NFL as of now. Which we knew at Duke. But he does have a lot of Jesus verses in him. Which endows him to the Irish faithful. And could lead to an angels-in-the-outfield type situation on Sundays if he plays for the right team (i.e., the Saints). So actually, maybe he does have a shot at the NFL
 
CrazyNotCrazie said:
Only half watching. Did they completely screw up the clock in ND’s favor on NIU’s last drive? Figures.
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No. They screwed up the spot first - egregiously badly. It should have been a first down by at least 5 or 6 feet. Then they screwed the clock in ND's benefit. Truly one of the worst things I have seen from sports officiating.

Northern Illinois beat Notre Dame, all the fans, and the refs. I don't hate on Notre Dame or Riley Leonard, but it would have been a travesty if they had won that game.

And yes, the NIU coach was perfectly emotional and in the moment. I wanted to tell to the sideline reported to shut up and let him talk.

Between that the Iowa ISU game - two amazing finishes. Very entertaining Saturday with no Blue Devil action.
 
RoseBowl1942 said:
And yeah Riley has no shot at the NFL as of now. Which we knew at Duke. But he does have a lot of Jesus verses in him. Which endows him to the Irish faithful. And could lead to an angels-in-the-outfield type situation on Sundays if he plays for the right team (i.e., the Saints). So actually, maybe he does have a shot at the NFL
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I have a difficult time evaluating NFL potential in QBs. Riley has some talent for sure. He has a good arm. He looked almost as banged up against NIU as he did in a Duke uniform. I'm not sure how scouts can determine potential with guys at this level when the people around them are so instrumental.

Is Riley good because he was largely successful with a subpar offensive line at Duke? Is he bad because he isn't good with Notre Dame level talent surrounding him? I have literally no idea. I guess that's why I don't make big bucks as an NFL talent scout
 
I literally can't overstate how poor the officiating crew was in the last minute of the Notre Dame game. The announcers felt complicit. The clock should have run after the (horrible) spot check, and NIU should have been kicking the winning field goal with a handful of seconds left.

Just astonishing. If Notre Dame has "won" that game, it would have really been a travesty.
 
Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15 said:
Between that the Iowa ISU game - two amazing finishes.
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Three. Right after Iowa State kicked a winning field goal with 4 seconds left, I switched from network TV to the Big Ten Network to watch Michigan State beat Maryland by kicking a winning field goal with 1 second left.

There wasn't much at stake -- Iowa was at least ranked -- but it's entertaining to watch Maryland slide further into irrelevance.
 
Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15 said:
I have a difficult time evaluating NFL potential in QBs. Riley has some talent for sure. He has a good arm. He looked almost as banged up against NIU as he did in a Duke uniform. I'm not sure how scouts can determine potential with guys at this level when the people around them are so instrumental.

Is Riley good because he was largely successful with a subpar offensive line at Duke? Is he bad because he isn't good with Notre Dame level talent surrounding him? I have literally no idea. I guess that's why I don't make big bucks as an NFL talent scout
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The biggest indicators of NFL upside at the college level (in no specific order) are (1) arm strength, (2) ability to recognize defensive schemes, (3) downfield passing accuracy, and (4) ability to quickly and effectively go through progressions. There is way more of an ability for mediocre players to get bailed out (or hindered) at the college level due to talent mismatches. This is especially true on teams with great wideouts. But if you watch the ones that are regarded as true NFL talents, they have some combination of those four (often at least two in spades). Riley has flashes of #3 and a decent level of #2, but I’d argue he’s lacking in #4 and not elite in #1. He’s a good dual-threat college QB. But he doesn’t have the ability to pick you apart in the pocket, which is what is required on Sundays

For the record, Daniel was great at #2-4, and solid at #1. And Renfree was great at #1 and #3, but lacking a good amount in #4 and a bit in #2
 
RoseBowl1942 said:
The biggest indicators of NFL upside at the college level (in no specific order) are (1) arm strength, (2) ability to recognize defensive schemes, (3) downfield passing accuracy, and (4) ability to quickly and effectively go through progressions. There is way more of an ability for mediocre players to get bailed out (or hindered) at the college level due to talent mismatches. This is especially true on teams with great wideouts. But if you watch the ones that are regarded as true NFL talents, they have some combination of those four (often at least two in spades). Riley has flashes of #3 and a decent level of #2, but I’d argue he’s lacking in #4 and not elite in #1. He’s a good dual-threat college QB. But he doesn’t have the ability to pick you apart in the pocket, which is what is required on Sundays

For the record, Daniel was great at #2-4, and solid at #1. And Renfree was great at #1 and #3, but lacking a good amount in #4 and a bit in #2
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I have a friend who watches the Giants every week who insists that Jones consistently makes poor reads.
 
Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15 said:
No. They screwed up the spot first - egregiously badly. It should have been a first down by at least 5 or 6 feet. Then they screwed the clock in ND's benefit. Truly one of the worst things I have seen from sports officiating.

Northern Illinois beat Notre Dame, all the fans, and the refs. I don't hate on Notre Dame or Riley Leonard, but it would have been a travesty if they had won that game.

And yes, the NIU coach was perfectly emotional and in the moment. I wanted to tell to the sideline reported to shut up and let him talk.

Between that the Iowa ISU game - two amazing finishes. Very entertaining Saturday with no Blue Devil action.
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So you said "no' but you mean "yes, they did screw it up?" I wasn't fully paying attention but it seemed really odd and like ND really benefitted. And since those things always work out for them, in real time I was convinced they would win. So I'm glad they didn't.
 
I just went to a Notre Dame board to see if they were blaming Riley for the loss. He’s getting a lot of hate over there; in fact, the only person getting more hate is Marcus Freeman.
 
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