Welcome to Duke, Cooper Flagg!

One of the best things about this recruitment is that he seems to be extremely competitive (he seems to have a Laettner edge in practice), and he’s a gym rat. Another of our great recruits, K2, also has that reputation of understated, hard-working excellence. I dunno about our other current recruits, but all of this year’s new guys seem to be getting to the gym at 6am every day. Apparently the most consistent at this 6 am thing is also the guy with the 2 million+ tik tok followers.

The Duke culture of working harder than the next group of guys + talent makes me think of Dickens’ famous quote: it was the best of times for Duke fans and the worst of times for everyone else.
 
Edouble said:
Will always be Quinn Cook for me.
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Nolan Smith and Quinn Cook were very good players for Duke. And they each helped lead their team to many great victories, including the National Championship. I feel indebted to both.

But time marches on and waits for no one. I’m confident Cooper Flagg will wear the vaunted Duke #2 jersey with distinction.
 
johnb said:
One of the best things about this recruitment is that he seems to be extremely competitive (he seems to have a Laettner edge in practice), and he’s a gym rat. Another of our great recruits, K2, also has that reputation of understated, hard-working excellence. I dunno about our other current recruits, but all of this year’s new guys seem to be getting to the gym at 6am every day. Apparently the most consistent at this 6 am thing is also the guy with the 2 million+ tik tok followers.

The Duke culture of working harder than the next group of guys + talent makes me think of Dickens’ famous quote: it was the best of times for Duke fans and the worst of times for everyone else.
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Right on. The other thing Flagg and K2 have in common is decorated D1 baller mothers. I'm sure they set the tone in their respective households. Here's hoping Scheyer has cracked a code with this...
 
AngolaDevil said:
Right on. The other thing Flagg and K2 have in common is decorated D1 baller mothers. I'm sure they set the tone in their respective households. Here's hoping Scheyer has cracked a code with this...
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Lively's mom played at Penn State. And I believe Flip's mom also played at a pretty high level. So maybe you're onto something...
 
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CDu said:
Flagg is a PF/C, definitely not a SF. But he is thin.
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scottdude8 said:
I was of the impression that he was a 3/4 and definitely not a 5, at least from the scouting reports I’ve seen (and from some first hand scouting from JasonEvans). I think he may have the defensive impact of a rim protecting 5 given his shot blocking prowess, but if he’s playing the 5 we’d be very vulnerable to bully ball down low.
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I’m surprised by CDu’s opinion, and agree with scottdude8’s comments. I’ve seen Flagg maybe 4 times on TV. He never played C in those games, on either O or D [except possibly on a switch]. More a combo wing 3/stretch 4 on O; and on D, he defended 2-4, always alert for shot-blocking opportunities when opponents — either his own man or really any opponent — attacked to the rim.
 
gumbomoop said:
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I’m surprised by CDu’s opinion, and agree with scottdude8’s comments. I’ve seen Flagg maybe 4 times on TV. He never played C in those games, on either O or D [except possibly on a switch]. More a combo wing 3/stretch 4 on O; and on D, he defended 2-4, always alert for shot-blocking opportunities when opponents — either his own man or really any opponent — attacked to the rim.
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His most natural position is PF. But I think he is more suited to C than he is to SF. He isn’t very quick, and his offensive game isn’t that of a perimeter player (not a very good shooter). It is sort of like Mark Mitchell or Filipowski, though better offensively and defensively than Mitchell (longer and a better leader) and much better defensively than Filipowski (but also much skinnier).

He is super skinny, though, which may prevent him from being a strong post defender. But that is his more natural fit. I would not be happy to see him playing SF.
 
gumbomoop said:
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I’m surprised by CDu’s opinion, and agree with scottdude8’s comments. I’ve seen Flagg maybe 4 times on TV. He never played C in those games, on either O or D [except possibly on a switch]. More a combo wing 3/stretch 4 on O; and on D, he defended 2-4, always alert for shot-blocking opportunities when opponents — either his own man or really any opponent — attacked to the rim.
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Dumb duck question #1: Except for the point guard, isn't a player's position kinda determined by the player assigned to guard him, not by how he's introduced at the beginning of the game? This seems especially true with the way the duke offense is ron.
 
gumbomoop said:
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I’m surprised by CDu’s opinion, and agree with scottdude8’s comments. I’ve seen Flagg maybe 4 times on TV. He never played C in those games, on either O or D [except possibly on a switch]. More a combo wing 3/stretch 4 on O; and on D, he defended 2-4, always alert for shot-blocking opportunities when opponents — either his own man or really any opponent — attacked to the rim.
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What position did Shane Battier play?

Cooper Flagg will be used similarly.
 
CDu said:
His most natural position is PF. But I think he is more suited to C than he is to SF. He isn’t very quick, and his offensive game isn’t that of a perimeter player (not a very good shooter). It is sort of like Mark Mitchell or Filipowski, though better offensively and defensively than Mitchell (longer and a better leader) and much better defensively than Filipowski (but also much skinnier).

He is super skinny, though, which may prevent him from being a strong post defender. But that is his more natural fit. I would not be happy to see him playing SF.
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I’ve read Flagg is a “generational talent”. That’s a kind of wet blanket description of a generational talent. I’ve only seen a few highlights so not agreeing or disagreeing but slow, poor, shooting and super skinny doesn’t scream NBA first pick to me.
 
lotusland said:
I’ve read Flagg is a “generational talent”. That’s a kind of wet blanket description of a generational talent. I’ve only seen a few highlights so not agreeing or disagreeing but slow, poor, shooting and super skinny doesn’t scream NBA first pick to me.
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I didn’t say slow. I said not quick. He is more rangy than quick. And he is definitely skinny. As is not uncommon in high school. And shooting is not a strength for him at this stage. He is an absolutely elite talent, I am not trying to wet blanket that. But he is a PF not a SF.

Anthony Davis was a generational talent who was not super quick, was also super skinny, and wasn’t a great shooter. Now to be clear, Flagg has more offensive skill than Davis did at that age. But they have a very similar body type and athleticism.

Picture a cross between McRoberts and Davis: that level of defensive talent and athleticism with that type of offensive skill set. That is an extremely elite prospect right? But it isn’t a shooter, nor super quick, nor a SF.
 
CDu said:
I didn’t say slow. I said not quick. He is more rangy than quick. And he is definitely skinny. As is not uncommon in high school. And shooting is not a strength for him at this stage. He is an absolutely elite talent, I am not trying to wet blanket that. But he is a PF not a SF.

Anthony Davis was a generational talent who was not super quick, was also super skinny, and wasn’t a great shooter. Now to be clear, Flagg has more offensive skill than Davis did at that age. But they have a very similar body type and athleticism.

Picture a cross between McRoberts and Davis: that level of defensive talent and athleticism with that type of offensive skill set. That is an extremely elite prospect right? But it isn’t a shooter, nor super quick, nor a SF.
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Not seeing the comps with Josh McRoberts (who was an early 2nd round draft choice) or Anthony Davis. Both were mostly inside players. Flagg seems to have unusual passing skills and the ability to create from the perimeter.

We'll find out soon enough. I trust Jon Scheyer and the staff to find the best role for Flagg
 
roywhite said:
Not seeing the comps with Josh McRoberts (who was an early 2nd round draft choice) or Anthony Davis. Both were mostly inside players. Flagg seems to have unusual passing skills and the ability to create from the perimeter.

We'll find out soon enough. I trust Jon Scheyer and the staff to find the best role for Flagg
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McRoberts was also a fantastic passer. He fell to the 2nd round because he couldn’t defend and wasn’t a great shooter. Davis was a rangy defensive wiz. That is why I said Flagg is a cross between the two: the offensive gifts of McRoberts with the defensive and athletic gifts of Davis.

I, too, trust that Schefter will find the right role for Flagg.
 
CDu said:
McRoberts was also a fantastic passer. He fell to the 2nd round because he couldn’t defend and wasn’t a great shooter. Davis was a rangy defensive wiz. That is why I said Flagg is a cross between the two: the offensive gifts of McRoberts with the defensive and athletic gifts of Davis.

I, too, trust that Schefter will find the right role for Flagg.
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A typo or some sort of crypto?
 
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