NYBri
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Personally, I could think of 5-8 million per year reasons.
The saga of Daniel Jones thread
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bluedevilwildcats
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This was my biggest takeaway from watching him, seemed like his progressions often started and ended with one guy that he locked onto. Close 2nd was poor judgement. Or maybe it was poor throws. Hmm, no, untimely turnovers. No, got it, inability to throw before a guy was wide open. Oh man, shoot, can't decide, should have made a top 10 list.
Since I'm not a Duke football fan, I can say w/o dismay that I won't be shocked (surprised yes, shocked no) if he doesn't play another snap in a regular season game.
If Daniel wants to be a backup, for backup money (which is what maybe .1% of his classmates make), then I'm sure he will be.
He has a great attitude. He never complains. He's tough and he's smart (just not a fast thinker in the pocket). The light may yet go on (I'm not holding my breath though).
His next career move will be interesting.
He has a great attitude. He never complains. He's tough and he's smart (just not a fast thinker in the pocket). The light may yet go on (I'm not holding my breath though).
His next career move will be interesting.
DoubleBlue
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Jones may also compare his situtation to that of Saquon Barkley, who certainly blossomed once out from under the Giants' penumbra.
I’m not so sure about that. Barkley was pretty dang good for the Giants when healthy.
JasonEvans
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And, if he plays well as a backup, he could quickly be back in the $20+ mil/season range. Many of us feel his struggles have been at least partly to blame on the OLine, WRs, and general offensive scheme of the Giants. It is not at all impossible to imagine Jones as a starter on some other team at some point.
ya, the "good" news is that QBs get hurt at an alarming rate. The question is whether he can find a good organization who wants him as a backup.
FerryFor50
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Not sure if this breaks any rules (mods feel free to remove if it does) but me and my buddy have a New York Football channel where we cover the Giants, Bills and Jets.
Definitely will be discussing this one on the live stream we do.
Definitely will be discussing this one on the live stream we do.
King of Defense
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Backup QB salaries (measured by cap hit):
- Marcus Mariota (WAS), $6m, possibly $10m with incentives
- Trey Lance (DAL), $5.3m
- Drew Lock (NYG), $5m
- Andy Dalton (CIN), $4.97m
- Mitch Trubisky (BUF), $2m
The median for a No. 2 QB is $1,991,950. Only five make less than $1m. The lowest-paid second-string QB I found was Aidan O'Connell (LAS), $785,000.
The media for a No. 3 QB, including a bunch of people who are basically kids biding their time to see if they ever get a shot, is $840,000.
The highest salary I've ever had, with two Duke degrees, is an inflation-adjusted $82,510.
I think Daniel's classmates will still be making quite a bit less than he is if he sticks in the league.
King of Defense
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That said, I would bet my inflation-adjusted peak salary that Jones will never make $20m. Not in 2024 dollars, anyway -- inflation could make $20m in 2026 be the equivalent of about 10 cents in 2024.
Jones fumbles too often, he can't make his way through progressions to find open receivers (astonishing for someone Cutcliffe coached), and I think he lost a step of his vaunted speed after his injuries.
He's Marcus Mariota *at best*. He's probably closer to Mitch Trubisky.
Jones fumbles too often, he can't make his way through progressions to find open receivers (astonishing for someone Cutcliffe coached), and I think he lost a step of his vaunted speed after his injuries.
He's Marcus Mariota *at best*. He's probably closer to Mitch Trubisky.
Phredd3
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You know, I'm really, really good at biding time. Can I get $840K per year for that, please?
King of Defense
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I'm getting $19.05/hour for biding time today.
NYBri
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Not bad bank for wearing a headset and holding an iPad.
Hartford Dukie
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If Daniel signs for next year, won't minimum pay requirements provide a floor. The minimum salary for an NFL player with six years of service in 2025 is $1,170,000.
NYBri
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If he signs elsewhere, he’ll get $5+ million.If Daniel signs for next year, won't minimum pay requirements provide a floor. The minimum salary for an NFL player with six years of service in 2025 is $1,170,000.
Hartford Dukie
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I didn't say, he couldn't make more. I said a floor. Some numbers were being mentioned of less than a million. I simply want to establish what the minimum would be for a six year vet. I assume he'll make considerably more than that floor.
King of Defense
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Possibly, if he's seen as a Mariota-level signing. If he's seen as a Trubisky analogue, then maybe not.
Let's look at ESPN QBRs ...
JONES
2019: 55.7, 279 rushing yards, 2 rushing TDs
2020: 54.0, 423 / 1
2021: 47.5, 298 / 2
2022: 62.9, 708 / 7 (the good year)
2023: 37.1 pre-injury
2024: 46.9 post-injury
Odd Jones stat: He had 24 TDs in 13 games in his rookie year. His next-best season for TD passes was 2022 (the good year) -- 15 in 16.
MARIOTA
2015: 48.4, 252 / 2
2016: 59.1, 276 / 2 (**26** passing TDs vs. 9 INTs)
2017: 59.0, 312 / 5
2018: 53.2, 357 / 2
Injuries started to take their toll in 2019. He played little in 2020 and 2021.
2022: 57.7, 438 / 4
Then back to backup role.
TRUBISKY
2017: 33.3, 248 / 2
2018: 71.0 (24 TDs/12 INTs), 421 / 3
2019: 41.5, 193 / 2
2020: 53.8, 195 / 1
2021: played little
2022: 58.5 (7 games)
2023: 35.3 (5 games)
So yeah, I'd rather have Jones that Trubisky, but I'd rather have Mariota than Jones.
Based on all that, I'll guess he gets a one-year, $5m deal or a two-year, $8m deal.
King of Defense
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Then whether he sees the field will depend entirely on the health and productivity of the starter.
I doubt anyone's going to sign him as a starter. *Maybe* the Raiders.
I doubt anyone's going to sign him as a starter. *Maybe* the Raiders.
