Observations from Countdown and practice

budwom said:
When the current “facts” are used to make baseless projections into the future they lose a lot of their factliness. What is true a week or two into practice may well not be true in a month
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Hmmmm....Factliness?

How about Factyness, Factiness, Factualness, Factuality?

This is important stuff to figure out, especially if we coin a new term as intellectual leaders. I won't simply accept your suggestion without reasoned discussion!
 
Thanks to Scott for defending me and explaining things a bit. To clarify even further -- I dearly hope I am wrong and Gillis is a more significant player than I saw in that practice. I doubt we will get much of an answer on this in the scrimmages or the first couple games but we should start to get some idea about what I saw against Kentucky, Arizona, and Kansas.

Again, I would love to be wrong about what I saw.

Also worth noting, I doubt I would have said anything if I had not heard from some folks close to the team that "Scheyer feels like 7 guys are standing out from the rest." It was hearing that which caused me to be on the lookout for who those 7 were (and it became glaringly obvious during the practice). So, my opinion about Gillis' role on the team was both a function of what I saw and what I heard from people who are in the know.

I feel like we have beaten this one nicely into the dirt at this point. Not much more needs to be said. And, again, I hope I have egg on my face once the big games roll around and Mason is spreading his glue guy impact all over the floor.
 
JasonEvans said:
Thanks to Scott for defending me and explaining things a bit. To clarify even further -- I dearly hope I am wrong and Gillis is a more significant player than I saw in that practice. I doubt we will get much of an answer on this in the scrimmages or the first couple games but we should start to get some idea about what I saw against Kentucky, Arizona, and Kansas.

Again, I would love to be wrong about what I saw.

Also worth noting, I doubt I would have said anything if I had not heard from some folks close to the team that "Scheyer feels like 7 guys are standing out from the rest." It was hearing that which caused me to be on the lookout for who those 7 were (and it became glaringly obvious during the practice). So, my opinion about Gillis' role on the team was both a function of what I saw and what I heard from people who are in the know.

I feel like we have beaten this one nicely into the dirt at this point. Not much more needs to be said. And, again, I hope I have egg on my face once the big games roll around and Mason is spreading his glue guy impact all over the floor.
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This is one heck of a combination of visuals.
 
bluedevilwildcats said:
bluedevilwildcats said:
Out of curiosity I took a look at the last 10 Big 10 6th Man of the Year winners. Half of them won the award their senior season. For the rest, here are their minutes played the year after they won the award: 33, 21, 32, 33,19, 31.

5 minutes would be quite the outlier. And that's before we have our inexorable injuries.
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But wouldn’t their minutes played the year after they won the award be highly dependent on their respective teams that following year? Maybe if Mason was with Purdue for this year, his projected minutes would be much higher than what is “guessed” for this year at Duke.
 
Duke Blue Lemur said:
The Duke MBB page posted some practice videos today. Only Flagg and Kon wore white jerseys the whole time. Make of that what you will.
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When the team does a full on competitive scrimmage, they divide up the guys into two balanced teams. What I was observing was drills and situational scrimmages. That is where the white team was clearly the starters and a few guys would rotate onto it every so often.
 
After watching the new practice video and digesting this thread, it seems like the coaching staff has settled on an 8-man rotation for competitive games in November.

Proctor, Foster, Knueppel, Flagg, and Maluach start.
The grown men come off the bench, including Brown, James, and Gillis.
If there's a blowout or injury, Evans and Harris will get a few minutes. Hopefully one or both of those 2, along with Ngongba, see a few minutes here and there by January.

Going 8 deep is fairly common for Duke and most college basketball teams. If the rotation in competitive games expands to 9 at some point, hopefully that's due to positive play by one of the freshmen.
 
DavidBenAkiva said:
After watching the new practice video and digesting this thread, it seems like the coaching staff has settled on an 8-man rotation for competitive games in November.

Proctor, Foster, Knueppel, Flagg, and Maluach start.
The grown men come off the bench, including Brown, James, and Gillis.
If there's a blowout or injury, Evans and Harris will get a few minutes. Hopefully one or both of those 2, along with Ngongba, see a few minutes here and there by January.

Going 8 deep is fairly common for Duke and most college basketball teams. If the rotation in competitive games expands to 9 at some point, hopefully that's due to positive play by one of the freshmen.
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I also think an 8 man rotation still leaves space for Harris or Evans to come in for a heat check, if Jon decides to do what I’ve heard suggested on multiple podcasts.

With Ngongba, it’s hard to see him making a similar push given the injury. But I think a semi-realistic hope is that he seems the floor at least some in the early season like you said. It would be nice to get him a small bit of run in case he’s pressed into action due to foul trouble or injury.
 
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