MBB: Duke vs. Arizona (NCAAT, Thu 3/27, 9:39pm ET, CBS) Pregame and In-Game Thread

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The odds of beating a team twice in a season are smaller than the odds of beating them once. But the odds are the same for each game by itself. It’s like a coin flip. 50/50 on a single flip. Lower odds to flip heads twice in a row. But each single flip is still 50/50. Transferred to the upcoming game, the odds of winning this one game haven’t changed because we beat them before.
There’s also the variable of location which usually changes for the second matchup. So we’re not talking about two 50/50 flips. I’ve always wondered how that factors into the narrative of “it’s tough to beat a good team twice.” Well, yeah - one of those games is likely to be on the road.

To piggyback on your main point - in isolation the odds of this upcoming game, if anything, are better for Duke than they were for game 1 when we traveled to Tucson
 
The odds of beating a team twice in a season are smaller than the odds of beating them once. But the odds are the same for each game by itself. It’s like a coin flip. 50/50 on a single flip. Lower odds to flip heads twice in a row. But each single flip is still 50/50. Transferred to the upcoming game, the odds of winning this one game haven’t changed because we beat them before.
Yes. However, there is one unknown. How will the team handle pressure, if the game is close at the end in an elimination game (vs the regular season). The underdog generally handles it better as they have less pressure/expectations. The pressure will be much greater on the #1 seed, plus the fans of the other teams will be supporting the underdog. These factors need to be considered, in the overall probability of a win.
 
I'll have a proper game preview later, but for now, discuss the rematch here.

I started writing this preview on Monday, but the prospect of Duke facing Caleb Love for the tenth and definitely last time sapped all the energy out of me. Fortunately, in my delay, some of you have started making my points for me.

@Billy Dat: "With all the talk about the SEC dominance, our path to the promised land is littered with Big 12s.”

To advance to the next round, Duke has to get past a Big 12 team that was ranked in the preseason top 10. I feel like I just wrote that sentence in the Baylor preview. Theoretically, Duke could make a tournament run of (Mount St. Mary's-)Baylor-Arizona-BYU-Houston-Texas Tech, possibly winning a national championship and an honorary Big 12 championship as well. You laugh, or maybe just arch an eyebrow because it's not ha-ha funny, but Carmelo Anthony and Syracuse did something similar in the 2003 NCAA Tournament: they beat Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, Texas, and Kansas.

@gep: "Caleb Love... I didn't think we would see him again..."
@wgl1228: "He is feast or famine"
@MChambers: [link to Brendan Marks’ Bluesky post about Caleb Love stats in wins and losses against Duke]

This was a great find, and it saved me from having to do the work myself.

In 5 wins: 20.8 points, 4.6 assists, 3.4 rebounds, 44% FG, 36.4% from 3, 96.3% (!!) on FTs

In 4 losses: 9.8 points, 3.8 assists, 3.3 rebounds, 28% FG, 14.8% from 3, 58.3% on FTs

@OldPhiKap: "But what are the odds that Ademola Okulaja beats himself?"

The temporary fifth year of eligibility created a situation in which Duke played RJ Davis 12 times, Armando Bacot 11 times, and Caleb Love and Jae'Lyn Withers 10 times. Did we ever face any four-year Heels this often? I looked up Marcus Paige (8 times), Tyler Hansbrough (8 times), and even Ademola Okulaja (0 times, because he always beat himself -- what the hell, OPK? I wrote this joke a few hours before your non sequitur). I soon decided that anything was a better use of my time than researching Carolina players of the past.

@tommy: "Their boards are probably saying the same things about our shooting of late"

I haven't checked to see what the Arizona forums are saying about this game, but I did want to borrow an illustration from BearDownU.

tommylloydanimated.jpg

Head coach Tommy Lloyd is completing his fourth season at Arizona, and he has them at 24-12 overall, 14-6 in the Big 12. Their 14-point home loss to Duke was part of a November to forget, in which the Wildcats lost 4 out of 5 games. They also were beaten at Wisconsin (by 15) and both Oklahoma (by 5) and West Virginia (by 7 in overtime) in the Bahamas. In their conference schedule, all losses were to Quad 1 opponents, Kansas State just barely, and the other 5 to teams that made the NCAA Tournament.

@JGDUKE2008: "they won't have Krivas who started against us"

Coach Lloyd has a 20-man roster, but really an 8-man rotation. Motiejus Krivas did start against Duke in November, but it was his only start in 8 games, after which he suffered a foot injury that required season-ending surgery in January. The Wildcats have played their entire Big 12 schedule without him.

PROBABLE STARTERS

6-4 fifth-year guard Caleb Love #1 (16.8 pts, 4.4 reb, 3.5 ast, 1.2 stl)
6-3 junior guard Jaden Bradley #0 (12.0 pts, 3.4 reb, 3.7 ast, 1.8 stl)
6-6 fifth-year forward Trey Townsend #4 (8.3 pts, 4.0 reb, 1.0 ast)
6-8 junior forward Tobe Awaka #30 (8.2 pts, 8.0 reb, 0.7 ast)
6-6 junior guard Anthony Dell'Orso #3 (7.3 pts, 1.4 reb, 1.4 ast)

TOP RESERVES

6-4 sophomore guard KJ Lewis #5 (10.9 pts, 4.6 reb, 2.9 ast, 1.3 stl)
7-0 redshirt sophomore forward Henri Veesaar #13 (9.3 pts, 5.0 reb, 1.3 ast, 1.1 blk)
6-8 freshman forward Carter Bryant #9 (6.5 pts, 4.1 reb, 1.0 ast, 1.0 blk)

BENCH PLAYERS

6-0 sophomore guard Conrad Martinez #55 (1.6 pts, 0.3 reb, 1.0 ast)
6-11 freshman forward Emmanuel Stephen #34 (1.3 pts, 1.3 reb. 0.1 ast)
6-2 redshirt freshman guard Sven Djopmo #42 (1.0 pts, 0.5 reb, 0.0 ast)
6-4 fifth-year guard Grant Weitman #15 (0.8 pts, 0.6 reb, 0.0 ast)
6-3 redshirt freshman guard Addison Arnold #2 (0.3 pts, 0.3 reb, 0.0 ast)
6-5 fifth-year guard Liam Lloyd #11 (0.2 pts, 0.4 reb, 0.1 ast)
6-10 senior forward Will Menaugh #33 (0.2 pts, 0.2 reb, 0.0 ast)
6-3 redshirt freshman guard Jackson Cook #21 (0.0 pts, 0.5 reb, 0.0 ast)
6-5 junior guard Jackson Francois #8 (0.0 pts, 0.5 reb, 0.0 ast)
6-8 redshirt senior forward Luke Champion #24 (0.0 pts, 0.2 reb, 0.0 ast)
6-3 redshirt freshman guard Will Kuykendall #12 (0.0 pts, 0.0 reb, 0.0 ast)

INJURED/OTHER

7-2 sophomore center Motiejus Krivas #14 (7.9 pts, 4.5 reb, 1.1 ast) -- foot injury, out for season

@kako: "Watching the Arizona-Oregon game, I was amazed at how many brain-dead plays the Wildcats made -- dumb fouls, goaltending calls, clock management, missed assignments, even a technical for hanging on the rim to try and stuff a ball into the hoop! Sure, they are talented. But somehow they just seemed to do silly things often. Oregon almost won the game, coming back from 7 down with about 1:30 left to play. I also questioned Lloyd not putting Awaka back in when it was clear they needed more physicality in the post. All of this is meant to mean that coaching also seems to be in Duke's favor."

Arizona and Oregon, both Pac-12 buddies just a year ago, played a game that got a little close at the end (87-83: recap, box score, highlights, presser). Those 4 points were also the difference by which Wildcats fifth-year Caleb Love (29 points, hitting 5 of 7 threes) outscored Ducks sophomore Jackson Shelstad (25). Four of Love's teammates -- Tobe Awaka, Jaden Bradley, Anthony Dell'Orso, and KJ Lewis -- each added a dozen points.


The Cats' 8-man rotation is evenly split between 4 backcourt players and 4 frontcourt players, but the minutes distribution is guard-heavy. Bradley and Love average around 34 minutes, while Lewis averages 26. The fourth guard (Dell'Orso) and the forwards each play 18-21 minutes per game.

@dukelion: "Biggest concern for me is Arizona's offensive rebounding. They're one of the best in the country, even better than Baylor, and we certainly have struggled hanging onto the ball from time to time."

Despite the seeming lack of depth and the de-emphasis on size, Arizona is a top 20 scoring and rebounding team. They are not as good at offensive rebounding as Baylor was, but are far better than the Bears were at grabbing boards on the defensive end. The Wildcats are 15th in that stat, and when you combine that with their 49th place adjusted tempo and their 23rd most fastbreak points per game, they are a legitimate threat to make buckets in transition. Take a look at the comparison tables below; most of the stats come from Sports Reference.

Bart Torvik sees the Blue Devils declawing the Wildcats, 80-73.

TABLE 1

CategoryArizona (24-12, 14-6 Big 12)Duke (33-3, 19-1 ACC)
Points Scored82.2 (18th nationally)83.2 (12th)
Points Allowed72.5 (200th)61.7 (6th)
Scoring Margin (NCAA.com)+9.7 (27th)+21.5 (1st)
Bench Points (NCAA.com)29.6 (19th)21.5 (133rd)
Total Rebounds40.1 (11th)38.5 (30th)
--- Offensive Rebounds12.3 (56th)10.9 (161st)
--- Defensive Rebounds27.8 (15th)27.6 (17th)
Assists16.3 (30th)16.9 (19th)
Assist/Turnover Ratio (NCAA.com)1.42 (50th)1.82 (3rd)
Steals7.6 (87th)6.9 (170th)
Blocks4.5 (47th)3.9 (96th)
Turnovers11.5 (161st fewest)9.3 (8th fewest)
Personal Fouls16.7 (178th fewest)15.7 (79th fewest)
Field Goal Percentage47.5% (43rd)49.2% (9th)
2-Point FG Percentage55.0% (60th)58.5% (7th)
3-Point FG Percentage33.4% (215th)38.7% (17th)
Free Throw Percentage77.6% (24th)78.5% (15th)

TABLE 2

CategoryArizona (24-12, 14-6 Big 12)Duke (33-3, 19-1 ACC)
NET Ranking (NCAA.com)#12 (NET Summary)#1 (NET Summary)
--- Strength of Schedule4th57th
--- Quad 111-1110-3
--- Quad 25-17-0
--- Quad 34-010-0
--- Quad 44-06-0
KenPom (Ken Pomeroy)#13#1
--- Offensive Efficiency13th1st
--- Defensive Efficiency28th4th
--- Tempo49th270th
Fastbreak Points (NCAA.com)13.9 (23rd)11.9 (76th)
T-Rank (Bart Torvik)#10 (T-Page)#2 (T-Page)
--- Experience1.917 (226th)0.970 (361st)
--- Talent66.351 (16th)80.712 (3rd)
--- Average Height77.889 (75th)79.762 (1st)
--- Effective Height80.498 (130th)82.218 (8th)

NET quadrants explained: The quality of wins and losses will be organized based on game location and the opponent's NET ranking.

Quadrant 1: Home 1-30, Neutral 1-50, Away 1-75
Quadrant 2: Home 31-75, Neutral 51-100, Away 76-135
Quadrant 3: Home 76-160, Neutral 101-200, Away 135-240
Quadrant 4: Home 161-353, Neutral 201-353, Away 241-353

Ken Pomeroy defines efficiency as an extrapolated measure of points scored (offensive) or allowed (defensive) per 100 possessions against an average opponent. The more points you score and the fewer points you allow, the better. Tempo refers to the number of possessions per 40 minutes against an average tempo: the higher the rank, the faster the tempo. Faster isn't necessarily better; Houston is among the 6 slowest teams, and is KenPom #2.

Bart Torvik offers some clarification in the comments here.

Experience "is based on class year (3 for senior, 0 for freshman) with caveat that it actually counts how many years a guy has played 10 games in, so if a guy is listed as a soph even though he's played two full years already, he'll count as a junior."

Talent "is based on composite recruiting ranks weighted for minutes played."

Effective Height "is an attempt to calculate minute-weighted height of the 4s and 5s. So it's basically the average height of the tallest 40% of minutes."

Average Height "includes all minutes, not just the bigs."
 
I started writing this preview on Monday, but the prospect of Duke facing Caleb Love for the tenth and definitely last time sapped all the energy out of me. Fortunately, in my delay, some of you have started making my points for me.

@Billy Dat: "With all the talk about the SEC dominance, our path to the promised land is littered with Big 12s.”

To advance to the next round, Duke has to get past a Big 12 team that was ranked in the preseason top 10. I feel like I just wrote that sentence in the Baylor preview. Theoretically, Duke could make a tournament run of (Mount St. Mary's-)Baylor-Arizona-BYU-Houston-Texas Tech, possibly winning a national championship and an honorary Big 12 championship as well. You laugh, or maybe just arch an eyebrow because it's not ha-ha funny, but Carmelo Anthony and Syracuse did something similar in the 2003 NCAA Tournament: they beat Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, Texas, and Kansas.

@gep: "Caleb Love... I didn't think we would see him again..."
@wgl1228: "He is feast or famine"
@MChambers: [link to Brendan Marks’ Bluesky post about Caleb Love stats in wins and losses against Duke]

This was a great find, and it saved me from having to do the work myself.

In 5 wins: 20.8 points, 4.6 assists, 3.4 rebounds, 44% FG, 36.4% from 3, 96.3% (!!) on FTs

In 4 losses: 9.8 points, 3.8 assists, 3.3 rebounds, 28% FG, 14.8% from 3, 58.3% on FTs

@OldPhiKap: "But what are the odds that Ademola Okulaja beats himself?"

The temporary fifth year of eligibility created a situation in which Duke played RJ Davis 12 times, Armando Bacot 11 times, and Caleb Love and Jae'Lyn Withers 10 times. Did we ever face any four-year Heels this often? I looked up Marcus Paige (8 times), Tyler Hansbrough (8 times), and even Ademola Okulaja (0 times, because he always beat himself -- what the hell, OPK? I wrote this joke a few hours before your non sequitur). I soon decided that anything was a better use of my time than researching Carolina players of the past.

@tommy: "Their boards are probably saying the same things about our shooting of late"

I haven't checked to see what the Arizona forums are saying about this game, but I did want to borrow an illustration from BearDownU.

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Head coach Tommy Lloyd is completing his fourth season at Arizona, and he has them at 24-12 overall, 14-6 in the Big 12. Their 14-point home loss to Duke was part of a November to forget, in which the Wildcats lost 4 out of 5 games. They also were beaten at Wisconsin (by 15) and both Oklahoma (by 5) and West Virginia (by 7 in overtime) in the Bahamas. In their conference schedule, all losses were to Quad 1 opponents, Kansas State just barely, and the other 5 to teams that made the NCAA Tournament.

@JGDUKE2008: "they won't have Krivas who started against us"

Coach Lloyd has a 20-man roster, but really an 8-man rotation. Motiejus Krivas did start against Duke in November, but it was his only start in 8 games, after which he suffered a foot injury that required season-ending surgery in January. The Wildcats have played their entire Big 12 schedule without him.

PROBABLE STARTERS

6-4 fifth-year guard Caleb Love #1 (16.8 pts, 4.4 reb, 3.5 ast, 1.2 stl)
6-3 junior guard Jaden Bradley #0 (12.0 pts, 3.4 reb, 3.7 ast, 1.8 stl)
6-6 fifth-year forward Trey Townsend #4 (8.3 pts, 4.0 reb, 1.0 ast)
6-8 junior forward Tobe Awaka #30 (8.2 pts, 8.0 reb, 0.7 ast)
6-6 junior guard Anthony Dell'Orso #3 (7.3 pts, 1.4 reb, 1.4 ast)

TOP RESERVES

6-4 sophomore guard KJ Lewis #5 (10.9 pts, 4.6 reb, 2.9 ast, 1.3 stl)
7-0 redshirt sophomore forward Henri Veesaar #13 (9.3 pts, 5.0 reb, 1.3 ast, 1.1 blk)
6-8 freshman forward Carter Bryant #9 (6.5 pts, 4.1 reb, 1.0 ast, 1.0 blk)

BENCH PLAYERS

6-0 sophomore guard Conrad Martinez #55 (1.6 pts, 0.3 reb, 1.0 ast)
6-11 freshman forward Emmanuel Stephen #34 (1.3 pts, 1.3 reb. 0.1 ast)
6-2 redshirt freshman guard Sven Djopmo #42 (1.0 pts, 0.5 reb, 0.0 ast)
6-4 fifth-year guard Grant Weitman #15 (0.8 pts, 0.6 reb, 0.0 ast)
6-3 redshirt freshman guard Addison Arnold #2 (0.3 pts, 0.3 reb, 0.0 ast)
6-5 fifth-year guard Liam Lloyd #11 (0.2 pts, 0.4 reb, 0.1 ast)
6-10 senior forward Will Menaugh #33 (0.2 pts, 0.2 reb, 0.0 ast)
6-3 redshirt freshman guard Jackson Cook #21 (0.0 pts, 0.5 reb, 0.0 ast)
6-5 junior guard Jackson Francois #8 (0.0 pts, 0.5 reb, 0.0 ast)
6-8 redshirt senior forward Luke Champion #24 (0.0 pts, 0.2 reb, 0.0 ast)
6-3 redshirt freshman guard Will Kuykendall #12 (0.0 pts, 0.0 reb, 0.0 ast)

INJURED/OTHER

7-2 sophomore center Motiejus Krivas #14 (7.9 pts, 4.5 reb, 1.1 ast) -- foot injury, out for season

@kako: "Watching the Arizona-Oregon game, I was amazed at how many brain-dead plays the Wildcats made -- dumb fouls, goaltending calls, clock management, missed assignments, even a technical for hanging on the rim to try and stuff a ball into the hoop! Sure, they are talented. But somehow they just seemed to do silly things often. Oregon almost won the game, coming back from 7 down with about 1:30 left to play. I also questioned Lloyd not putting Awaka back in when it was clear they needed more physicality in the post. All of this is meant to mean that coaching also seems to be in Duke's favor."

Arizona and Oregon, both Pac-12 buddies just a year ago, played a game that got a little close at the end (87-83: recap, box score, highlights, presser). Those 4 points were also the difference by which Wildcats fifth-year Caleb Love (29 points, hitting 5 of 7 threes) outscored Ducks sophomore Jackson Shelstad (25). Four of Love's teammates -- Tobe Awaka, Jaden Bradley, Anthony Dell'Orso, and KJ Lewis -- each added a dozen points.


The Cats' 8-man rotation is evenly split between 4 backcourt players and 4 frontcourt players, but the minutes distribution is guard-heavy. Bradley and Love average around 34 minutes, while Lewis averages 26. The fourth guard (Dell'Orso) and the forwards each play 18-21 minutes per game.

@dukelion: "Biggest concern for me is Arizona's offensive rebounding. They're one of the best in the country, even better than Baylor, and we certainly have struggled hanging onto the ball from time to time."

Despite the seeming lack of depth and the de-emphasis on size, Arizona is a top 20 scoring and rebounding team. They are not as good at offensive rebounding as Baylor was, but are far better than the Bears were at grabbing boards on the defensive end. The Wildcats are 15th in that stat, and when you combine that with their 49th place adjusted tempo and their 23rd most fastbreak points per game, they are a legitimate threat to make buckets in transition. Take a look at the comparison tables below; most of the stats come from Sports Reference.

Bart Torvik sees the Blue Devils declawing the Wildcats, 80-73.

TABLE 1

CategoryArizona (24-12, 14-6 Big 12)Duke (33-3, 19-1 ACC)
Points Scored82.2 (18th nationally)83.2 (12th)
Points Allowed72.5 (200th)61.7 (6th)
Scoring Margin (NCAA.com)+9.7 (27th)+21.5 (1st)
Bench Points (NCAA.com)29.6 (19th)21.5 (133rd)
Total Rebounds40.1 (11th)38.5 (30th)
--- Offensive Rebounds12.3 (56th)10.9 (161st)
--- Defensive Rebounds27.8 (15th)27.6 (17th)
Assists16.3 (30th)16.9 (19th)
Assist/Turnover Ratio (NCAA.com)1.42 (50th)1.82 (3rd)
Steals7.6 (87th)6.9 (170th)
Blocks4.5 (47th)3.9 (96th)
Turnovers11.5 (161st fewest)9.3 (8th fewest)
Personal Fouls16.7 (178th fewest)15.7 (79th fewest)
Field Goal Percentage47.5% (43rd)49.2% (9th)
2-Point FG Percentage55.0% (60th)58.5% (7th)
3-Point FG Percentage33.4% (215th)38.7% (17th)
Free Throw Percentage77.6% (24th)78.5% (15th)

TABLE 2

CategoryArizona (24-12, 14-6 Big 12)Duke (33-3, 19-1 ACC)
NET Ranking (NCAA.com)#12 (NET Summary)#1 (NET Summary)
--- Strength of Schedule4th57th
--- Quad 111-1110-3
--- Quad 25-17-0
--- Quad 34-010-0
--- Quad 44-06-0
KenPom (Ken Pomeroy)#13#1
--- Offensive Efficiency13th1st
--- Defensive Efficiency28th4th
--- Tempo49th270th
Fastbreak Points (NCAA.com)13.9 (23rd)11.9 (76th)
T-Rank (Bart Torvik)#10 (T-Page)#2 (T-Page)
--- Experience1.917 (226th)0.970 (361st)
--- Talent66.351 (16th)80.712 (3rd)
--- Average Height77.889 (75th)79.762 (1st)
--- Effective Height80.498 (130th)82.218 (8th)
Well done as usual. I did not realize Arizona is a bit small like Baylor (with the injury tot he 7 footer).
 
I feel like being in the BIG MOMENT honestly will put a lot more pressure and intensity on Love than he probably needs to take on — meaning I can see it unnecessarily frustrating him if he doesn’t get in the zone or hit his average. This added pressure of what he did in matching the Oregon game may actually help us if he ball hogs and forces bad shots. Oregon lost the game because they couldn’t hit free throws and their three point percentage was lower. Even though Love got hot and hit some sweet threes toward the end. So I’m arguing that Arizona is a handsy foul-heavy team that will call it “playing physical” when in reality they’re hackers and holders on D. Duke handled this well the first time and will this time. Defense will be the deciding factor for Duke whether it becomes a close game or holds true to covering the spread. Overall Duke has a lot of momentum with the location, their talent, and coaching. I feel honestly this team has demonstrated it’s one of the strongest/toughest physical teams of all time. So I’m not so worried there. Where Duke needs to be mindful is to, yes, not get too focused on stopping Love (just containing) but on ensuring that there’s weak side help on the dribble drive if he were to heat up from outside (he’s got a great first step on the pump fake three) And yes, Duke needs to step out and guard him deep beyond the three point line if he heats up — something that wasn’t done effectively when he was at UNC but that was a different team. Point is this team can defend the perimeter well but need to provide good help on the drive. I feel like our bigs are some of the best at it — just need to avoid early fouls. On the offensive side — this Duke team has all the firepower at every position to move on. I would like to see more pick n rolls compared to the last game. Dukes PNR is the best in college basketball.
 
Saw the graph below on Reddit and stole it. I knew Arizona was playing well offensive, but didn't realize their defense has been trash lately.

Not sure whose rating were used for the graph, so I checked Torvik and over this stretch Zona ranks 4th in offense (one spot behind Duke) and 125th in defense (115 spots behind Duke).

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Saw the graph below on Reddit and stole it. I knew Arizona was playing well offensive, but didn't realize their defense has been trash lately.

Not sure whose rating were used for the graph, so I checked Torvik and over this stretch Zona ranks 4th in offense (one spot behind Duke) and 125th in defense (115 spots behind Duke).

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They are around 100th defensively in there last 10 games. Houston held them to 58 in Tucson and 64 in the Big 12 title game. Our offense is way better than Houston's and the defense is close. I dont know who can beat this version of Duke but to me it isn't a 12 loss team who can't shoot 3's. We probably score 80 with a B+ offensive performance and Arizona will have a hard time scoring 70 on us.
 
I feel similarly, but I take solace in the fact that the late start time is much more impactful on grumpy old men (your words, myself included for certain) than it is on the players. 20 year old kids mostly don't care if a tip-off is at 1pm or 10:30pm, other than how it impacts the rest of their day.

For me, it will require naps, afternoon coffee, some rearranging of my Friday morning plans, etc. i suspect Flagg and Proctor are not likely to be as affected.
Yeah, I plan a l-o-n-g afternoon nap on Thursday. Otherwise I won't last until tipoff.
 
You are probably correct, but isn't Duke one of the best draws in MCBB? If they are, wouldn't it make sense to play them in primetime? I think nearly half of the people in the USA live in the eastern time zone.
And, respectfully, half the people don't. An early start would mean 4PM Pacific. They won't get the country's eyeballs if they start then. It's all about money and ratings, period. Not seeds, making eastern time zone people happy, the players' health, academics, etc.

Sure, I'd love for Duke to play earlier, though I personally would watch this game no matter when it was played... Still, I have to wonder why the game time start is even a question. Money rules. Next...

9F
 
I'd like to follow up again on MChambers' Brendan Marks quote & use some of Brevity's data above:

Caleb Love stats
In 5 wins: 20.8 points, 4.6 assists, 3.4 rebounds, 44% FG, 36.4% from 3, 96.3% (!!) on FTs

In 4 losses: 9.8 points, 3.8 assists, 3.3 rebounds, 28% FG, 14.8% from 3, 58.3% on FTs

AZ Stats
82.2 ppg average

Duke Stats
83.2 ppg average

I've seen a lot of posts suggesting we gear defense to stop Caleb Love. Was wondering if it's insane to do the opposite-- let Caleb get his, but limit everyone else. Caleb averages about 17ppg, which leaves about 65 points for the rest of the team.

Caleb has a career high of 35 points (Against Oregon on 1/27/24: 12-18 with 5 3s). Even if we let him get his career high, but limit everyone else's scoring, maybe we'd be better off? I'm guessing if we focused on stopping everyone but Love, we could hold the rest of the team to 33 points (reduce their output by 50%) and they'd only score 68 (keep in mind their whole team only scored 55 against us in November, although I'm aware these are not the same two teams). Also, allowing Caleb the relative freedom to become the "I'm the man watch me shoot an off-balance 28 footer" Caleb is like giving a drunk an open bar-- he's bound to get carried away with himself and shoot them into trouble. It might also further undermine the rest of the team if they start Caleb-watching b/c they know they're not going to get the ball.

I know it's dangerous because Caleb is not limited to his career high and my math is extremely far from rigorous, but I'm thinking out loud. Have at it and tell me why I'm dumb.
 
Saw the graph below on Reddit and stole it. I knew Arizona was playing well offensive, but didn't realize their defense has been trash lately.

Not sure whose rating were used for the graph, so I checked Torvik and over this stretch Zona ranks 4th in offense (one spot behind Duke) and 125th in defense (115 spots behind Duke).

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Explain this data visualization to me like I'm dumb.

Duke is the best combo and Ole Miss the worst, right?
 
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