Board software - Q&A for the new stuff

Minor comment that I noticed (after looking closely... so not a big deal). The background "blue" on the DBR banner at the top, and the "blue" in the main menu bar just below the DBR banner (with Home, EK Board, Off Topic, etc), are very slightly different. I hesitated to mention this since it's such a small thing, but that's just me (just ask my family :)).
 
Minor comment that I noticed (after looking closely... so not a big deal). The background "blue" on the DBR banner at the top, and the "blue" in the main menu bar just below the DBR banner (with Home, EK Board, Off Topic, etc), are very slightly different. I hesitated to mention this since it's such a small thing, but that's just me (just ask my family :)).

Picky, picky, picky! 😂 I'm right there with you, gep! Actually, the blue behind the banner (not the within the D-U-K-E letters) and the menu bar with the forum names are the same. There's an optical illusion going on, aided and abetted by the ever-so-slightly darker blue behind the username, message and notification indicators, and the search bar on the right of the screen. I have no idea where they've defined that color. I'm working on it because it bugs me!

There are over 400 individual places where colors are defined. There's a small set of standard set of colors used in many places, like PaletteColor4 or PageBackground. Then there are the other 380 or more exceptions spread out over 27 pages, each page with 2-10 sections that need to be expanded to see them. In other words, it's not a nice, compact list that I can scroll through and pick and choose what I want. It's gonna take a while to get the colors where I want the to be!

Plus, y'all want other features, too! There are well over 50 items on our punch list and only one is there as a catch-all for colors and styles and visual appearance. And we get to work on this live which is terrifying as y'all notice *everything* -- it took 3 minutes for someone to post that the graphic header was posted! So...I tell y'all this to set expectations. If you see something that's Clemson Orange, it's probably because I'm trying to identify where they use that particular color and it'll hopefully be gone in a few minutes (or however long it takes me to go through all the forum options to find it). Don't worry, there are certain colors that I know DO NOT BELONG on DBR and I will do my best to make sure we aren't exposed to such noxious colors !

In previous upgrades, we had a separate test system that we could do months of prep work on our timeline before it went live. This one, we get to go live first on the provider's timeline (it wasn't the optimal for the core team), then take even longer to try to make the customizations. It's all good, it'll all work out and we'll have a wonderful system. It's already pretty cool!

Thank you all so much for all of your positive comments and your patience. It's much appreciated! Keep being patient with us.
 
Thank you all so much for all of your positive comments and your patience. It's much appreciated! Keep being patient with us.
And thank you for the hard work and dedication in getting this technical stuff done. The new banner is great, and I'm looking forward to seeing the some of the rest of the punch list getting done. I very much appreciate your work, and I'm sure many others do as well!
 
So today I clicked on the "Reply" link to a post. That post shows up in my reply box, but I can't bold, italic, underline that post. I'm sure I could do that before... :rolleyes:
 
So today I clicked on the "Reply" link to a post. That post shows up in my reply box, but I can't bold, italic, underline that post. I'm sure I could do that before... :rolleyes:
Hmmm. I found it hard to see the words I was selecting, but it did work for me. Or did you mean in the response?
 
Hmmm. I found it hard to see the words I was selecting, for my but it did work for me. Or did you mean in the response?
Well... I meant that I cannot bold/underline/italic your post with your "name" in orange in the box immediately above this line... but I can do it in my actual reply in this line... as bold, underline, italic. Interestingly, if I put the cursor in that orange box, I can edit the words there... I just cannot highlight and select anything whether I use the mouse or shift-arrow like you did above. I'm using Chrome... and was able to do this yesterday and "forever". Thanks...

ETA... I just tried to highlight and select words in prior quoted posts and that worked. Only can't do in the quote in the current reply message box.
 
OK gep and dlmzzz, you gave me an idea that I thought would take about 30 seconds to implement. Here I am two and a half hours later, and I think I got it!

You always could change the font appearance in the quoted text. It required selecting the text. The background color and the color of the selection background were so similar that it was impossible to tell the difference between the two nearly identical grays, so nothing looked selected. (If you are familiar with colors, they were rgb(240, 240, 240) and rgb(245, 245, 245) -- these are almost indistinguishable!) Unless you either have extremely good color vision or know what to look for (like dlmzz does), you'll miss that there's anything highlighted. Nearly all users would assume nothing was selected. I figured it was going to be quite easy to change that color. In fact, I think I knew exactly which color to change.

And it was easy! Oh, I was proud of myself! I set it to bright orange (just to be sure I had a bright visual to check it, then select a better color once I confirmed that was the color that needed to be changed). I refreshed the page and...oh <expletive>, I've turned this into a UVA site! Apparently, the color variable used by the "selected text background color" is also used by the "main navigation menu text color," among a number of other uses. *head desk* *head desk* *head desk* Finding how to fix this required spelunking through the 400 colors in the 27 pages, each page with several sections and apparently all the variables put into categories that were organized by a rabid squirrel. Fortunately, I'm nerdy enough to enjoy these kinds of spelunking expeditions. (Actually, after working with it for a few hours, maybe the squirrel wasn't rabid and there is a method to the squirrel's madness, so I did learn something useful to make future changes somewhat easier!)

So if you're wondering why certain colors aren't perfect, this is why. I truly though it would be a quick fix to change the highlight. Haha, I was so wrong! Anyway, I hope this "little" change helps everyone! I felt that being able to see what one selects was a pretty important fix and should be prioritized over some of the other little upgrades. Thanks for calling it to my attention! And I needed the comments from both gep and dlmzzz to quickly determine exactly what was wrong (fixing it took a bit longer) -- thanks to the two of you!
 
OK gep and dlmzzz, you gave me an idea that I thought would take about 30 seconds to implement. Here I am two and a half hours later, and I think I got it!

You always could change the font appearance in the quoted text. It required selecting the text. The background color and the color of the selection background were so similar that it was impossible to tell the difference between the two nearly identical grays, so nothing looked selected. (If you are familiar with colors, they were rgb(240, 240, 240) and rgb(245, 245, 245) -- these are almost indistinguishable!) Unless you either have extremely good color vision or know what to look for (like dlmzz does), you'll miss that there's anything highlighted. Nearly all users would assume nothing was selected. I figured it was going to be quite easy to change that color. In fact, I think I knew exactly which color to change.

And it was easy! Oh, I was proud of myself! I set it to bright orange (just to be sure I had a bright visual to check it, then select a better color once I confirmed that was the color that needed to be changed). I refreshed the page and...oh <expletive>, I've turned this into a UVA site! Apparently, the color variable used by the "selected text background color" is also used by the "main navigation menu text color," among a number of other uses. *head desk* *head desk* *head desk* Finding how to fix this required spelunking through the 400 colors in the 27 pages, each page with several sections and apparently all the variables put into categories that were organized by a rabid squirrel. Fortunately, I'm nerdy enough to enjoy these kinds of spelunking expeditions. (Actually, after working with it for a few hours, maybe the squirrel wasn't rabid and there is a method to the squirrel's madness, so I did learn something useful to make future changes somewhat easier!)

So if you're wondering why certain colors aren't perfect, this is why. I truly though it would be a quick fix to change the highlight. Haha, I was so wrong! Anyway, I hope this "little" change helps everyone! I felt that being able to see what one selects was a pretty important fix and should be prioritized over some of the other little upgrades. Thanks for calling it to my attention! And I needed the comments from both gep and dlmzzz to quickly determine exactly what was wrong (fixing it took a bit longer) -- thanks to the two of you!
PERFECT!!! Thanks a lot, devil84 for your perseverance in finding and updating this. I easily applied bold/italics/underline in the sentence above. It never occurred to me to try to "highlight" something even if I can't see it and try to bold, etc like dlmzzz said, since nothing looked highlighted to me. Very interesting...
 
You have good debugging genes in your makeup, devil84, I am impressed. And I have to say I am less than whelmed with the board application, or at least the development and maintenance side of it. The user side is nice, I have to admit, but a lot of that might be due to the efforts of the DBR admin crew.
 
You have good debugging genes in your makeup, devil84, I am impressed. And I have to say I am less than whelmed with the board application, or at least the development and maintenance side of it. The user side is nice, I have to admit, but a lot of that might be due to the efforts of the DBR admin crew.
Thanks, 75! I worked on some novel (for their time) applications back in the day where those debugging skills came in really handy.

I do want to give credit where credit is due. The application is pretty solid (even if I initially think they organize things like rabid squirrels, haha -- it does eventually make sense, I just have to adjust my thinking). It's developed by the same people as the previous board software who broke off from that company. Obviously, they have to do things differently even though their product is extremely similar, so it's frustrating that we can leverage most, but not all, of our previous knowledge. Not knowing which is the "different" part is the real frustration. We'll get it, sooner or later.

The maintenance side of it, or more specifically, the hosting group, is a good group of people. We are tiny potatoes to them, though. This upgrade was done on their schedule, not ours (if I had it to do differently, it would NOT be the same week, or even the same month, as my son's wedding and other admin/mods vacations!). And their communication skills are pretty typical of IT people, meaning they may as well start every email with, "Guess what I just did! You're gonna love this...." To which the initial, knee-jerk response usually is, "Wait, you did WHAT? NOW??!!" Hey, the good news is that the board is no longer slow and throwing 502 errors, even if we lost the ability to work behind the scenes to make sure we give you our vision of the new boards. Instead, we get to wing it and surprise y'all with an incessant multitude of tiny, incremental changes! It'll be fun, right?! 🤪 It could be a lot worse. The hosting company is actually quite good, even though they work at their schedule. The software is a terrific, solid base product that has a lot of add-ons to expand functionality. We just need to learn to use it, which is much easier without the distractions of gaining a daughter-in-law or vacations, so we're able to focus more now. And also remember that we're all volunteers and have real-world jobs.

We're not doing anything different than previous upgrades. We were just able to do that all in the background before and get it working before we let everyone see it. It's different now; a little exciting and a lot scary. It's why I've been a bit more transparent about some of the struggles, not to gather kudos (though they're certainly appreciated!), but to let people know that something that should be SO EASY, like changing the background color of the selected text, took literally 300 times longer than I thought it should! Don't hesitate to keep ideas coming, especially if they're things that don't seem to work quite right. We'll get to it when we can! And y'know, I really enjoy doing this kind of frustratingly awesome kind of customization. I've got SOOOOOO many ideas!
 
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Okay - figured it out - it was actually JE that I was ignoring, so threads started by him disappeared. When I unigored him (yes, there is an "unignore" buttom, it reappeared.
Interesting. There is a thread I would like to ignore, but I started it under different circumstances. Maybe I can make myself disappear….
 
Okay - figured it out - it was actually JE that I was ignoring, so threads started by him disappeared. When I unigored him (yes, there is an "unignore" buttom, it reappeared.
Just to clarify - I did not intend to ignore Jason. I apparently had fat fingers and clicked on a button to ignore him. And the entire thread dsappeared.
 
Just to clarify - I did not intend to ignore Jason. I apparently had fat fingers and clicked on a button to ignore him. And the entire thread dsappeared.

Um, yeah. Me too, Jason. I must have *(checks notes)* hit a wrong button or something.
So… I’m curious about this… in case I also “hit the wrong button”. Sounds like there isn’t a “cancel ignore” or “confirm to ignore” button/link to ignore? Guess I gotta be aware and careful🤪
 
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