indeed, one I have successfully ignored lately...On a different thread there's a Duke alum being berated for getting a big contract and not being more "team friendly."
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accfanfrom1970
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Don’t forget Mason on the Suns. So Grayson, Tyus and Mason Plumlee. Duke West
Need to start Royce ONeale for defensive purposes.
Bradley Beal and Grayson Allen off the bench! Good luck to Coach Bud telling Beal that.
brevity
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Gordon Hayward is retiring.
www.espn.com
I know it's been 14 years, but I still think that halfcourt shot might go in.
Hayward retires from NBA after 'incredible ride'
Gordon Hayward has retired from the NBA, calling his 14 seasons an "incredible ride" and adding he "can't wait for what's next!"
I know it's been 14 years, but I still think that halfcourt shot might go in.
unix_joe
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Pretty sure we debated this to death, but that shot was never going in. It's about a 3% shot for NBA players in game and that includes end of quarter situations where the shooters are largely undefended, vice end of game potentially championship altering situations. Hayward's shot hit the backboard and only clanked off the outside of the rim on its way down by sheer force of the shot.
He wasn't even close.
He wasn't even close.
SamHouston
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Before his injuries, GH was a pristine ball player.Gordon Hayward is retiring.
Hayward retires from NBA after 'incredible ride'
Gordon Hayward has retired from the NBA, calling his 14 seasons an "incredible ride" and adding he "can't wait for what's next!"
I know it's been 14 years, but I still think that halfcourt shot might go in.
If it were Payton Pritchard, we'd have had more reason to be concerned.
Every time I watch that replay, I'm surprised at how the missed FT rebound goes directly to Hayward... almost as if Zoubs did that on purpose. If anyone else got the rebound, I don't think the last-second heave would have been as close. Whew...Gordon Hayward is retiring.
Hayward retires from NBA after 'incredible ride'
Gordon Hayward has retired from the NBA, calling his 14 seasons an "incredible ride" and adding he "can't wait for what's next!"
I know it's been 14 years, but I still think that halfcourt shot might go in.
bundabergdevil
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-jk
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Had it fallen, the Laettner shot would have been relegated. I like still seeing UK go down, too!
-jk
sagegrouse
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I was there. The last 2-3 minutes were almost Kafkaesque. Jon's three disallowed because of a Butler foul inside; foul against Kyle ruled a turnover (shades of San Antone); out-of-bounds to Butler in the corner; open shot by Heyward bothered by Zoubek and barely missing; stupid call to "miss" FT from K to Zoubs; rebound (as noted) directly to Heyward; uncalled moving screen by Matt Howard that leveled Singler; scary shot from mid-court by Heyward.
What's next, I thought? This will never end. Then I saw the Duke team running and jumping on the court. Hey, it's over -- we won!
I recall that Coach K said that if the game goes to OT, Duke won't be in good shape. If I recall correctly, both Zoubs and Lance had 4 fouls. And with 3+ seconds left (assuming Zoubs makes the FT) Butler (even without a timeout) still had 5 seconds to get everyone set up for the final shot... and teams practice these scenarios. I just rewatched the final minute of the Villanova/unc game. Villanova had 4+ seconds (of course, they had a timeout, but still...) and got a great shot just outside the 3 point line to win the NC. I keep thinking that if Zoubs makes the FT, Butler makes a 3, game goes to OT... I don't know how I would have survived
sagegrouse
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When K yelled "Miss it," Chris Collins yelled, "No, make it!" K's daughter Jamie reportedly told him later, "Dad, that doesn't make any sense."I recall that Coach K said that if the game goes to OT, Duke won't be in good shape. If I recall correctly, both Zoubs and Lance had 4 fouls. And with 3+ seconds left (assuming Zoubs makes the FT) Butler (even without a timeout) still had 5 seconds to get everyone set up for the final shot... and teams practice these scenarios. I just rewatched the final minute of the Villanova/unc game. Villanova had 4+ seconds (of course, they had a timeout, but still...) and got a great shot just outside the 3 point line to win the NC. I keep thinking that if Zoubs makes the FT, Butler makes a 3, game goes to OT... I don't know how I would have survived
A lot of people question K's decision. I mean, we're ahead by two with a couple of seconds left. What's wrong with being ahead by three?
None of these thoughts, however, occurred to me in the arena. YMMV.
Because of what Coach K said... being ahead by 3 gives Butler at least 5 seconds to get everyone set for the final play... which gives them a good shot at tying the game... after which Coach K didn't like his chances in OT with Zoubs and Lance with 4 fouls each. (Yes, I bought in to that narrative
). So, either win the game, or go to OT where winning becomes very questionable to him. His call, I guess... My only "wish" was that the FT miss rebound was off the the side where Hayward wasn't positioned... and a fight for the rebound occurred... when time would run out.
(sorry... that game means a lot to me... and I can't forget it)
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It sure looks to me like Hayward’s shot just BARELY missed. Had it gone in it would have won the national championship for Butler on what was essentially their homecourt. We came very close to seeing a celebration that would have been quite unlike any that has ever occurred in an NCAA basketball championship game.
Coach K’s dictate that Brian Zoubek purposely miss his free throw still upsets me to this day. I get queasy just thinking about the feeling I had as I followed the trajectory of Hayward’s shot, which looked like it was going to be very close. And it was. But maybe my eyes are just dumb.
evrim
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DukieInBrasil
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I'll be pleasantly surprised/impressed if DJ makes his NBA debut this year. No doubt he's worked hard since he left Durham, here's hoping that it pays off!
JasonEvans
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If he is on a 2-way, then the team absolutely expects him to play some. This isn't a "stash him and see what develops" situation either as DJ has been out of college for several years now. Teams know what they are getting from him.
brevity
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Lauri Markkanen signs an extension with Utah and can't be traded during the 2024-2025 season.
www.espn.com
Markkanen signs 5-year, $238M deal with Jazz
Jazz All-Star forward Lauri Markkanen has signed a five-year, $238 million contract renegotiation and extension -- including $220 million in new money, his agent Michael Lelchitski of Sports International Group told ESPN on Wednesday.