killerleft
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From Greensboro, going via I-77 and I-81 to get to Knoxville vs. I-40 is, remarkably, not much out of the way. The increased traffic is going to be the real issue.
Hurricane Helene
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Phredd3
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Yes, there are definitely alternate routes, depending on where the freight is going. But all of them add at least an hour to the trip, with attendant increased costs in labor, fuel, and maintenance.
Here is a good overview of what is really going on with relief efforts in NC:
I sent him an email this morning expressing my disappointment with the post and asking that at a minimum he correct the information that you can only apply for FEMA aid via the internet. You can call 1-800-621-3362 from 7am to 11pm. More info is here - https://www.fema.gov/fact-sheet/fema-assistance-north-carolinians
CameronBornAndBred
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I don't read the front page, but IF I did, I wouldn't come to DBR to read about something other than sports.
This was not a wise use of his soapbox.
I have a friend who is a doctor in Texas. She has volunteered to help in North Carolina. Some of the things she tells me are going on are hard to believe and so sad. She is having to ride in a chopper or an ATV or ride on horseback or on a mule to reach many areas to see people in need of medical care. Setting a lot of broken bones. She says the bees and yelllowjackets are everywhere -- everywhere. If you are involved in making donations, add benadryl chewables to your list. Also a problem is that it's starting to get cold. If people don't have supplies, they're in big trouble. She says you can still smell the rotting bodies of the missing -- she found a family that had been buried alive. They have come across a few neighborhoods where the remaining people have just made camps, people working together to help each other survive, with a central area to cook, and some have built pulley systems to get to neighbors. The resiliency and ingenuity is astonishing. Neighbors are being told they won't be able to go back to their homes for six months, minimum. Fit everything you can in a suitcase and that's it.
Hard for the media to really grasp what is going on without any real access, but she says that everyone should be aware that FEMA is there. The Red Cross (who she's working with) is there. Many private organizations too. It's just so hard to get into and out of these places that the lack of accurate information is in a way understandable but people are trying to capitalize on it politically which is disgusting. But this is the reality: the government is absolutely there and working around the clock -- literally -- to help people in need.
She says this is the saddest, most heartbreaking, but most beautifully rewarding thing she has ever done.
Hard for the media to really grasp what is going on without any real access, but she says that everyone should be aware that FEMA is there. The Red Cross (who she's working with) is there. Many private organizations too. It's just so hard to get into and out of these places that the lack of accurate information is in a way understandable but people are trying to capitalize on it politically which is disgusting. But this is the reality: the government is absolutely there and working around the clock -- literally -- to help people in need.
She says this is the saddest, most heartbreaking, but most beautifully rewarding thing she has ever done.
wavedukefan70s
Member
I relayed the benadryl information to the church up the street that is taking and requesting donations .Hoodies and blankets aswell for the cold.
Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15
Member
Yes. The night temps at elevation will be in the 30s this week.
The lack of power becomes a much bigger obstacle.
brevity
Member
For those of you catching up a few days later, here's a link to the DBR front page article under discussion here.
People don't necessarily "come to DBR" like it's a bookmark on their web browser. The DBR front page articles are frequently picked up by Google News, and it's formatted so that you'll often just see the headline, and not be able to tell the source or the author. For example:
That's not so bad. The DBR logo and the words "Duke Basketball Report" are microscopic (all of the SB Nation sites are similarly tiny), but you can tell from the headline that it's probably an opinion piece, and from the picture that it's about Duke basketball.
Now try this:
This is the piece in question that I linked above. The headline is sort of a news/opinion hybrid, but maybe worth a click. There's no indication that the source is primarily a sports site, or that its author puts out a lot of unedited, unchecked content. I've been burned clicking Google News links to articles that I thought would be more substantive than they were, so I imagine that others find their way to DBR unsuspectingly.
CrazyNotCrazie
Member
I think I already wrote this, but again, this is really horrible. I know there are posters and/or mods who know JD King. In the past we have asked people to reach out to him about less egregious, but still bad posts. Could someone let him know that there are many of us who are deeply troubled by this? Though I get the impression that he does not care at all.
I agree with Crazy, and as we all tread lightly on this board for fear of the Mods coming down on us with infractions: do they (the Mods) not note this or have any control over the front page? Plus, there was no note from JD concerning our former guy repeating falsehoods about the recovery effort. Absolutely unacceptable: JD should serve an infraction/ban, in my humble opinion.
FosterCoachK82
Member
YEAH, he should have called out Trump as well.
JetpackJesus
Member
I don't frequent the not-EK Board, but I know my response to the front-page story about WNC would get me banned over there. If I get banned here, then ::shrug emoji: because you should do better, DBR.
I have always used the DBR front page (many don't, I gather) to get to these forums and the game day chats. I think I will be cutting out the middle man (DBR) now after this ... thing.
I've lived a lot of my life in Asheville. My dad, stepmom, and grandma live in Flethcer now. I talked to them Saturday (and last week when they could find service), and they're fine. JD's "story" is offensive by any objective metric and should be taken down. My dad, also a Duke Alum, woud be (and wll be) equally offended by this drivel.
I am so disappointed in this site.
I have always used the DBR front page (many don't, I gather) to get to these forums and the game day chats. I think I will be cutting out the middle man (DBR) now after this ... thing.
I've lived a lot of my life in Asheville. My dad, stepmom, and grandma live in Flethcer now. I talked to them Saturday (and last week when they could find service), and they're fine. JD's "story" is offensive by any objective metric and should be taken down. My dad, also a Duke Alum, woud be (and wll be) equally offended by this drivel.
I am so disappointed in this site.
CrazyNotCrazie
Member
Thank you for your post. There are clearly a lot of people who are very upset about the front page post. I am fairly sure there are some old timers around here who know JD King. Could someone tell him how we feel? As I said earlier, this has happened in the past (though not as extreme) and I feel like a mod said they would let him know and absolutely nothing happened. But some effort would be greatly appreciated. Or perhaps reach out to the ownership (I'm not clear on the ownership/management structure here)? Given the scope of what is happening, is this the biggest problem people are facing now? No way. But it is still not OK and it is a problem that in a normal world could be easily solved.
This is truly sad, frustrating, angering and embarrassing.
ClemmonsDevil
Member
Jesus. I said this would be an almost impossible undertaking when it happened. There is a reason that people go up there to hike in solitude. Those mountains are vast and relatively sparsely populated. But not unpopulated. There are homesteads, and small communities in hard to reach areas when the weather is great. But now roads are washed away and billions of trees are down. Rescue is hard at the beach. And it is flat. The mountains are a different animal. We have literally never encountered a disaster of this scale in the modern era. And 1 political party is using this for their benefit. Just I'm a real wanker for saying this. I'm a real wanker for saying this. them. They have just I'm a real wanker for saying this. I'm a real wanker for saying this.ing quit on America at this point.
camion
Member
I mentioned earlier in this thread that a friend and non-Duke college classmate living in the mountains near Mars Hill had been dehomed by Helene. He spent a week in a motel in Knoxville because that was where the available ride took him. He has finally made his way here to Greenville, SC where he is now residing in my spare bedroom. Among other things he's decompressing, working the phones with his insurance company and trying to figure a way to get the trees off of his car and house so the aduster can actually see them. He has a nice bed now, but life for him will be difficult for the foreseeable future. It does hit home when you sit with someone and listen to their story.
This is just one story from western NC. There are thousands.
This is just one story from western NC. There are thousands.
MChambers
Member
Really unbelievable, but emergency officials are facing antisemitic attacks. Elon Musk’s Twitter is a big part of the problem.
https://wapo.st/4eQKjFd (Gift link)
https://wapo.st/4eQKjFd (Gift link)
Our church has two tractor trailer loads of supplies and food going to the western NC area every week. This past Sunday our Pastor had a special offering to help out the people there. Many have no money to pay their bills. The pastor challenged every member to give $100 for each bed we have in our homes. The Lord is good.
God bless those who live in the NC mountains.
God bless those who live in the NC mountains.
75Crazie
Member
I posted something in the Milton thread about my TN county's beliefs regarding government control of hurricanes, but I thought I better not follow up there because of the very real and important dialog going on there about the potential for disaster that is imminent for Florida.
According to a more recent post today on the public FB page of my TN county, shared from the eminent source In2ThinAir, the shift in Helene's track was actually caused by evil government steering the hurricane (a capability that has been proven for a couple of decades now) towards the NC mountains to cause enough catastrophic damage so that the government will have access to the very rich Lithium mines there. It all begins to make sense to me; since you just can't make B/S stuff like this up ... it's gotta be true.
(To be clear, I am not making anything up here; I just forced myself to suffer through a 4-minute video, shared to my county page, claiming exactly this. Judging from FB comments, there is a sizable population in my county that believes these storms are not only engineered but to some degree controlled by government. I think I have fallen into a modern-era Twilight Zone episode. Or is this just the initial onset of the Rapture? As Marvin the paranoid android famously said, "I fear reality is on the blink again".)
According to a more recent post today on the public FB page of my TN county, shared from the eminent source In2ThinAir, the shift in Helene's track was actually caused by evil government steering the hurricane (a capability that has been proven for a couple of decades now) towards the NC mountains to cause enough catastrophic damage so that the government will have access to the very rich Lithium mines there. It all begins to make sense to me; since you just can't make B/S stuff like this up ... it's gotta be true.
(To be clear, I am not making anything up here; I just forced myself to suffer through a 4-minute video, shared to my county page, claiming exactly this. Judging from FB comments, there is a sizable population in my county that believes these storms are not only engineered but to some degree controlled by government. I think I have fallen into a modern-era Twilight Zone episode. Or is this just the initial onset of the Rapture? As Marvin the paranoid android famously said, "I fear reality is on the blink again".)