OZZIE4DUKE
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I’d settle for the skills I had when I played Club Football at Duke back in the 70’s. Note: not the skills I have today but those from 50 years ago!
FB: Duke 27, #22 SMU 28 (OT)
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Phredd3
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BTW, the immediate responses to this made me realize how terrible it sounded, and how badly I missed my intent on this. By the time I realized what it looked like, it was already too late to delete it. I sincerely apologize to the whole community for that post. If I could have retracted it, I would have done so.
Sorry to derail the thread further, but I just wanted to be sure I got an apology posted, since the post remains.
brevity
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Tuesday's press conferences with SMU head coach Rhett Lashlee and quarterback Kevin Jennings:
The official SMU team website has a link-heavy preview page of this week's game, with some interesting facts.
smumustangs.com
On3/On the Pony Express has an SMU depth chart, and PonyFans.com wrote up an opponent preview of Duke:
The official SMU team website has a link-heavy preview page of this week's game, with some interesting facts.
SMU Travels East For Big Matchup At Duke | Saturday At 7 PM CT - SMU Athletics
Saturday, October 26, 2024 – 7 p.m. CT
smumustangs.com
On3/On the Pony Express has an SMU depth chart, and PonyFans.com wrote up an opponent preview of Duke:
AustinDevil
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No worries from my perspective—I took my “Angry” reply off lol.
Section 15
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But... But... Today's college students can't read script. How will they know which team to cheer for?
Gen Z Never Learned to Read Cursive
How will they interpret the past?By Drew Gilpin Faust (former president of Harvard, and a very good scholar of American history)
throatybeard
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Certainly looks a lot better than that goofy devil we wore on our hats last week.
CameronBornAndBred
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Steve Spurrier, Fred Goldsmith, and David Cutcliffe will all be in Wallace Wade on Saturday, recognizing the '89, '94, and 2014 teams.
Looks nice, but still not as nice as the gothic "Duke" in my opinion. Still, good to mix it up. On the basketball jerseys, the gothic Duke is absolutely the best.But... But... Today's college students can't read script. How will they know which team to cheer for?
Gen Z Never Learned to Read Cursive
How will they interpret the past?
By Drew Gilpin Faust (former president of Harvard, and a very good scholar of American history)
Yes, I do wonder how kids these days will learn how to read certain things from the past. Do they even know how to sign their names?? I guess you learn basically your name and it doesn't matter if the cursive is correct or not on a signature.
CrazyNotCrazie
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I have a 9th grader and a 5th grader. The 9th grader can create something that looks kind of like a signature but can do no other cursive. 5th grader has no idea. I learned cursive in 3rd grade, if I recall. Though I do not use it at all other than for my signature.
Back to the topic, I like this helmet, especially the blue writing on white.
jjasper0729
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My nine year old has been doing some cursive in school last year in third grade and I believe they will do more this year in fourth grade.
I hope they have the blue jerseys and white pants. Totally classic!
I just wanted to emphasize how big this game is to SMU.
The rich donors wanted into the ACC for a variety of reasons, but one fundamental motivation was to be more like Duke, their midsize Methodist competition. To do that, they have been carefully investing in academics since hiring Ken Pye from Duke in 1987 to clean up after the death penalty.
These donors would prefer that academic greatness not come with the usual baggage (weird people, liberal ideas), but they do want the greatness.
They hate that SMU has gotten stuck playing regional schools like Tulsa, Louisiana Tech, and Memphis, while their local competition gets on Sportscenter. They know they can’t really compete with Texas or A&M (2 of the richest and biggest schools in the country), but it’s painful to watch TCU and Baylor get on the national stage, especially since those are schools that have systematically kept SMU out of a major conference for 40 years. Plus, SMU got the death penalty when these same schools pulled the same shenanigans, with SMU just being the one who got caught.
More than most similar folks elsewhere, these rich donors intensely want SMU (and Dallas) to be world class. They tend to live in Dallas, send their kids to SMU, and have gotten rich from Dallas industries like oil, investment banking, and tech. These elite donors also work in overlapping industries—what we see as an act of rich-guy fandom, many of them might see a million dollar donation as just one of the ways to strategically develop productive business connections with guys they’ve grown up with and with whom they often do deals. These donors breathe Dallas in a way that rich Duke alumni donors don’t breath the Durham/Duke cultural and business communities.
Obviously, one twist to their aspiration: if SMU becomes a Duke in 20 years, their grandchildren will probably get rejected in favor of some left-wing weirdo from out of state. But that’s their problem for tomorrow.
The donors aren’t going to be on the field, of course, but that sort of aspiration with a side order of resentment may supply more of an focused edge than we might anticipate when playing a team we’ve only played twice.
My SMU friends (not megadonors but fans) circled this Saturday on their calendars as soon as the schedule was released.
All that is to say that SMU REALLY wants to beat a school (Duke) that is very much what SMU is aiming to become. Though I’d add that many would say that this whole ACC investment is not necessarily about beating a Duke but about being casually mentioned in the same breath as great universities like Stanford, Berkeley, UNC, Georgia Tech, and UVa. Regardless of how this game goes, SMU’s leadership is going to see this very big Saturday as a win for the institution.
The rich donors wanted into the ACC for a variety of reasons, but one fundamental motivation was to be more like Duke, their midsize Methodist competition. To do that, they have been carefully investing in academics since hiring Ken Pye from Duke in 1987 to clean up after the death penalty.
These donors would prefer that academic greatness not come with the usual baggage (weird people, liberal ideas), but they do want the greatness.
They hate that SMU has gotten stuck playing regional schools like Tulsa, Louisiana Tech, and Memphis, while their local competition gets on Sportscenter. They know they can’t really compete with Texas or A&M (2 of the richest and biggest schools in the country), but it’s painful to watch TCU and Baylor get on the national stage, especially since those are schools that have systematically kept SMU out of a major conference for 40 years. Plus, SMU got the death penalty when these same schools pulled the same shenanigans, with SMU just being the one who got caught.
More than most similar folks elsewhere, these rich donors intensely want SMU (and Dallas) to be world class. They tend to live in Dallas, send their kids to SMU, and have gotten rich from Dallas industries like oil, investment banking, and tech. These elite donors also work in overlapping industries—what we see as an act of rich-guy fandom, many of them might see a million dollar donation as just one of the ways to strategically develop productive business connections with guys they’ve grown up with and with whom they often do deals. These donors breathe Dallas in a way that rich Duke alumni donors don’t breath the Durham/Duke cultural and business communities.
Obviously, one twist to their aspiration: if SMU becomes a Duke in 20 years, their grandchildren will probably get rejected in favor of some left-wing weirdo from out of state. But that’s their problem for tomorrow.
The donors aren’t going to be on the field, of course, but that sort of aspiration with a side order of resentment may supply more of an focused edge than we might anticipate when playing a team we’ve only played twice.
My SMU friends (not megadonors but fans) circled this Saturday on their calendars as soon as the schedule was released.
All that is to say that SMU REALLY wants to beat a school (Duke) that is very much what SMU is aiming to become. Though I’d add that many would say that this whole ACC investment is not necessarily about beating a Duke but about being casually mentioned in the same breath as great universities like Stanford, Berkeley, UNC, Georgia Tech, and UVa. Regardless of how this game goes, SMU’s leadership is going to see this very big Saturday as a win for the institution.
PDDuke85
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Take out the last para UNC reference and we have a winner.
I mean football is SMU's thing and they've been solid the past couple of years, not to mention they're ranked and favored by 10+. Its still weird to me that this would be a big deal to them, but I guess they can celebrate the win should it happen saturday evening. They'll probably need to hold onto that when they get run out of the gym January 4th.
I know entering the ACC is definitely a big deal, the big donors love it, but I really don't see that beating Duke is going to carry more weight than beating the other schools on their schedule such as Stanford, Cal, FSU, UVA, etc...beating ranked Louisville was a pretty big deal already.
Thanks for the perspective johnb. I will say that I don't really know how SMU is seen from an academic prestige perspective as it's not on my radar -- so I looked at U.S. News as a general gauge. Their 61% acceptance rate and #91 ranking would suggest they have a LOOOONG way to go before they can be "like Duke" from an academic perspective, but hey, can't fault them for trying.
I will say that it looks like their average test scores for admitted students is quite high given that relatively high acceptance rate, but maybe that's in the test optional world where only people with top scores submit things anymore. Coming from a major city in the Midwest, I've never heard of anybody applying to or going to SMU. It's still very regional it seems and, as you say, it seems like they kinda want it both ways (i.e. increase national prestige/allure but maintain being a Dallas institution).
I will say that it looks like their average test scores for admitted students is quite high given that relatively high acceptance rate, but maybe that's in the test optional world where only people with top scores submit things anymore. Coming from a major city in the Midwest, I've never heard of anybody applying to or going to SMU. It's still very regional it seems and, as you say, it seems like they kinda want it both ways (i.e. increase national prestige/allure but maintain being a Dallas institution).
OldPhiKap
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It seems that way to me. SMU wants to compete for and win the conference championship. We're the next obstacle to that goal, no more or less really. And one that they rightly expect to overcome.
