FosterCoachK82
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I would be very happy to see FSU leave the ACC.
Can't he get a grad student to do his homework for him? It's the Carolina Way.It's a formula, and I don't suppose doing math is one if his hobbies.
Depending on your definition of homework, he already has this arrangement, basically.Can't he get a grad student to do his homework for him? It's the Carolina Way.
I don't know. "Seemingly" is carrying a very heavy load in your sentiments,* and the settlement takes away a huge amount of uncertainty. And if schools that are almost certain to see a revenue reduction (Wake, BC, e.g.) vote for it tomorrow, then you'll see how they weigh their risks.Seems like a bad move by the conference UNLESS there are other unspoken/unnamed options on the table, now that the court dismissals are seemingly imminent.
LIV funding..
Caesars Place Sportsbook ACC…
I don’t understand why the league is caving in when it is in a position of strength in the suit. Maybe the final blowup of conferences will happen in 2030 so it may believe it really doesn’t matter. Anyone who thinks the most $$$ will not go to the biggest teams is dreaming. It will be the final nail in the coffin of even having one outsider in the championship semis and final.I don't know. "Seemingly" is carrying a very heavy load in your sentiments,* and the settlement takes away a huge amount of uncertainty. And if schools that are almost certain to see a revenue reduction (Wake, BC, e.g.) vote for it tomorrow, then you'll see how they weigh their risks.
*Never underestimate the capacity of home-state courts to do stupid things.
I think the most that FSU has paid for a buyout is around $25M to Willie Taggart.Does it, though? The way I read the various articles, it seems to significantly lower the exit cost. F$U was worried about a half-billion-dollar possible fee, but will $120M even phase them? I thought I remembered them buying out a coach for that. To me, this seems to make the league less stable, not more, although I've just seen news articles and haven't read the proposed agreement.
If an ACC school were to leave in fiscal year 2026, the exit fee would be $165 million. That figure drops by $18 million each year until 2030-31, when it moves to $75 million and remains there. Schools retain their future media rights upon payment of the exit fee, according to a presentation provided to the Clemson Board of Trustees.
And there are many of us who would line up to hold the door open for them...At some point, the math will work out for seeking greener pastures. Not that $75M is cheap, but FSU for sure would take that hit.
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ACC lowers exit fee for schools to leave in settlement with Florida State, Clemson :: WRALSportsFan.com
Schools can leave for $75 million with their media rights in 2030-31.www.wralsportsfan.com
I was not a fan when they joined .I loved the old ACC . I realize it isn't realistic in today's world .I would be very happy to see FSU leave the ACC.
Far from clear who would want them. Meanwhile the status quo is fine for DukeAt some point, the math will work out for seeking greener pastures. Not that $75M is cheap, but FSU for sure would take that hit.
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ACC lowers exit fee for schools to leave in settlement with Florida State, Clemson :: WRALSportsFan.com
Schools can leave for $75 million with their media rights in 2030-31.www.wralsportsfan.com
As I said in Chat during the game on Saturday, I think the Patriot League is looking for new members.Far from clear who would want them. Meanwhile the status quo is fine for Duke
Now I’m ok with Jim Phillips since UNC BOT is mad at him.At some point, the math will work out for seeking greener pastures. Not that $75M is cheap, but FSU for sure would take that hit.
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ACC lowers exit fee for schools to leave in settlement with Florida State, Clemson :: WRALSportsFan.com
Schools can leave for $75 million with their media rights in 2030-31.www.wralsportsfan.com
No one wanted them enough for them to be able to forfeit media rights through 2036. That doesn't mean they weren't wanted. If the acquiring conference didn't have to help them buy out of the grant of rights (or buy out so many years), the story might have ended differently. Who knows?So the bottom line is that after all the bluster about leaving the ACC, Florida State and Clemson ( and others)
discovered that the SEC and BIG TEN really didn't want them.
Well, Notre Dame is unique and has a national network TV football contract. Not replicable, I fear. Especially when top CBB teams turn over 80% of their rosters every year.I had a Duke friend telling me today that Duke, as the premiere national basketball brand, should try to go independent like ND did in football.
Join the B12 for football and other sports - and give the B12 10 basketball games a year. Then fill up the schedule with marquee matchups. Michigan St, UNC, UConn, Alabama, etc.
It's an interesting idea. Could maximize revenue and lock in our advantage as the top destination for recruits, transfers. The rest of CBB would hate it and do everything they could to block it. The right media partner would absolutely love it and it could inject some excitement into the CBB regular season. Hope Nina and Jon are at least considering it as a possibility. The way to get traction would be to get a media partner interested in it.
Problem is this golden age of Duke basketball may not last forever. Things can happen. Coach Scheyer could get a generational wealth offer to coach his hometown Bulls and his replacement doesn’t work out so great. The financial landscape of college sports could continue to move to a point where a small private school like Duke just can’t offer the multi-millions of dollars every year to lure the top recruits and transfers and the advantage turns more to the big public schools with unlimited resources to put into sports like Alabama, Michigan, Ohio State, Kentucky, Florida and Oregon and many others like them. Then we’re not so special anymore and these contracts you envision don’t get renewed. Then where are we? Then we’re Gonzaga, a program which it could be credibly argued is already showing signs of decline.I had a Duke friend telling me today that Duke, as the premiere national basketball brand, should try to go independent like ND did in football.
Join the B12 for football and other sports - and give the B12 10 basketball games a year. Then fill up the schedule with marquee matchups. Michigan St, UNC, UConn, Alabama, etc.
It's an interesting idea. Could maximize revenue and lock in our advantage as the top destination for recruits, transfers. The rest of CBB would hate it and do everything they could to block it. The right media partner would absolutely love it and it could inject some excitement into the CBB regular season. Hope Nina and Jon are at least considering it as a possibility. The way to get traction would be to get a media partner interested in it.
I think you take this 10 years at a time. So 2030-2040. A big reason to do this would be to fully leverage our brand and maximize revenue so we do stay at or near the top of CBB. I'm no expert on the ND deal with NBC, but I imagine it's been a net positive for their football program and the university.Problem is this golden age of Duke basketball may not last forever. Things can happen. Coach Scheyer could get a generational wealth offer to coach his hometown Bulls and his replacement doesn’t work out so great. The financial landscape of college sports could continue to move to a point where a small private school like Duke just can’t offer the multi-millions of dollars every year to lure the top recruits and transfers and the advantage turns more to the big public schools with unlimited resources to put into sports like Alabama, Michigan, Ohio State, Kentucky, Florida and Oregon and many others like them. Then we’re not so special anymore and these contracts you envision don’t get renewed. Then where are we? Then we’re Gonzaga, a program which it could be credibly argued is already showing signs of decline.
I don't think it is a viable plan. BB is just not as big as FB. A big TV draw for a non tournament Duke game is what, 2,500,000 views? That number doesn't scream big contract. Also, with no league drama attached to any games it would be hard to sustain interest. NCAA tournament positions is only of interest late in the season. The general fan doesn't care until March. Don't confuse the level of interest on school aligned Boards or even unaligned sports boards with general public interest.I think you take this 10 years at a time. So 2030-2040. A big reason to do this would be to fully leverage our brand and maximize revenue so we do stay at or near the top of CBB. I'm no expert on the ND deal with NBC, but I imagine it's been a net positive for their football program and the university.
Anyway this is less than half baked. I'm not arguing for it. I was just intrigued by the idea because I'd never considered the possibility.