Blue Devils in the NBA 2023-2024

I'm currently working on how the Celts can trade for Lively. Might have to get tremendously creative. If the young, talented and versatile Celts have a weakness, it's probably at center where Porzingis's health is always a question (he ended up staying very healthy this year by his standards) and one has to wonder if Horford can possibly play as well next year as he did this year....which was extremely well.
 
If you check out Harry Giles' IG (@hgiiizzle), he just posted a bunch of pics of he and JT after Game 5. These two are very close friends and glad to see JT having him in the building for the big moment. Too bad the Cs don't have a spot on the roster for him.
 
I'm currently working on how the Celts can trade for Lively. Might have to get tremendously creative. If the young, talented and versatile Celts have a weakness, it's probably at center where Porzingis's health is always a question (he ended up staying very healthy this year by his standards) and one has to wonder if Horford can possibly play as well next year as he did this year...which was extremely well.

Or they could draft Flip with the 30th pick to be the KP understudy
 
that did occur to me, though I guess Flip should be long gone by then...

Though that would be a bit lower than expected for Flip, sometimes it is better to drop a bit and go to a better fit/organization. It costs some $$$ in the short run and might hurt the ego a bit but it could pay off in the long run.
 
that did occur to me, though I guess Flip should be long gone by then...

He seems to be slipping some in mock drafts - Yahoo has him at 21, ESPN has him at 22, the Athletic has him at 24, and the Ringer has him at 31, and I think the last 2 sites tend to do better work here. So 30 would be a bit of a slide for him, but unfortunately not outside the realm of possibility.
 
That was a tough one. Tatum, Kennard and Allen never really gelled. Luke was the best scorer on the team, but was not a two way player. Jayson was young, but often the best player. Grayson was . . . Grayson.

I recall getting into a discussion with Jim Sumner and CDu when I mentioned that Tatum was the best player on that team and they both pointed to Kennard as the alpha.

The funny thing about some Duke teams is that I wonder what would have happened if one player wasn’t there. Like the Bagley Carter year. Duke might have been more successful with just Wendell Carter Jr. manning the post.

That year with Tatum, Allen and Kennard I wonder if things would have worked out better with just Tatum and either Allen or Kennard.
Marvin Bagley III was:

Consensus First-Team All-American
ACC Player of the Year
ACC Rookie of the Year
First Team All-ACC

We would not have been more successful without Marvin Bagley. This is just ridiculous.
 
Marvin Bagley III was:

Consensus First-Team All-American
ACC Player of the Year
ACC Rookie of the Year
First Team All-ACC

We would not have been more successful without Marvin Bagley. This is just ridiculous.
And Carter would have done what that year without Bagley? It’s something I’m curious about.
 
And Carter would have done what that year without Bagley? It’s something I’m curious about.


You asked what Duke would have done without Bagley, and specifically said Duke might have been more successful without Bagley.

You did not ask if Carter would have been more successful, which is also pretty hard to fathom. Conventional wisdom would say Bagley demanded all kinds of defensive attention and helped Carter, when he was on the court.

That team had problems, but the problem was not the play of Bagley nor was it that Carter was hampered in some way. Carter put up huge numbers and was drafted in the first half of the lottery.

Your suppositions seem ambiguous. Care to expand? Because I have never heard of someone saying that any team would have been better off without a First Team All American.
 
You asked what Duke would have done without Bagley, and specifically said Duke might have been more successful without Bagley.

You did not ask if Carter would have been more successful, which is also pretty hard to fathom. Conventional wisdom would say Bagley demanded all kinds of defensive attention and helped Carter, when he was on the court.

That team had problems, but the problem was not the play of Bagley nor was it that Carter was hampered in some way. Carter put up huge numbers and was drafted in the first half of the lottery.

Your suppositions seem ambiguous. Care to expand? Because I have never heard of someone saying that any team would have been better off without a First Team All American.
Obviously K agreed with you and I defer to his judgment. But it wasn’t the type of lineup he was used to and I always wondered how that team would have been if they had gelled around Carter at the 5 and 4 out. It isn’t a deep analysis — just a gut thing.

It’s not a big gripe. Off-season musings.
 
Obviously K agreed with you and I defer to his judgment. But it wasn’t the type of lineup he was used to and I always wondered how that team would have been if they had gelled around Carter at the 5 and 4 out. It isn’t a deep analysis — just a gut thing.

It’s not a big gripe. Off-season musings.
I agree that the roster construction was a bit unusual for us, and probably not ideal. Losing Bagley would have killed us - we had a dramatic talent drop-off after our starting five - but trading Bagley or Carter for a similarly talented point guard? We coulda gone all the way.
 
who will get the next "biggest"?? Paulo? then Cooper?
It is all largely a function of when you become a free agent. Max contract sizes are tied to your experience in the league and the percentage of the cap you are allowed to occupy for your team (0-6 years - 25% of the cap; 7-9 years - 30% of the cap, 10+ years 25% of the cap). Essentially, Tatum and Brown signed the exact same contracts but Tatum's came a year later and therefor is written into a new salary cap ($136 mil last year, just under $141 mil this year).

As for who is next, Donovan Mitchell just signed a 3 year extension with the Cavs. He was eligible for a 4 year extension but chose to make it 3 years because that will allow him to become a free agent in 2027 when he will have 10 years of NBA experience. Thus his next deal will be for the 10+ year Max which is expected to be 5 years for $380+ million, $70+ million more than what Tatum signed for.

But the guy who will break the record first will be Luka Doncic. He is a free agent next summer and will be able to sign a 5 year deal for something close to $346 million.
 
It is all largely a function of when you become a free agent. Max contract sizes are tied to your experience in the league and the percentage of the cap you are allowed to occupy for your team (0-6 years - 25% of the cap; 7-9 years - 30% of the cap, 10+ years 25% of the cap). Essentially, Tatum and Brown signed the exact same contracts but Tatum's came a year later and therefor is written into a new salary cap ($136 mil last year, just under $141 mil this year).

As for who is next, Donovan Mitchell just signed a 3 year extension with the Cavs. He was eligible for a 4 year extension but chose to make it 3 years because that will allow him to become a free agent in 2027 when he will have 10 years of NBA experience. Thus his next deal will be for the 10+ year Max which is expected to be 5 years for $380+ million, $70+ million more than what Tatum signed for.

But the guy who will break the record first will be Luka Doncic. He is a free agent next summer and will be able to sign a 5 year deal for something close to $346 million.
Michael Jordan's career earnings in the NBA was $93,772,500 according to Spotrac. Adjusting for inflation from 1998 to 2024, that is equivalent to approximately $180 million, which is less than what Tatum will earn over just the next 4 years. Blows my mind.
 
Michael Jordan's career earnings in the NBA was $93,772,500 according to Spotrac. Adjusting for inflation from 1998 to 2024, that is equivalent to approximately $180 million, which is less than what Tatum will earn over just the next 4 years. Blows my mind.
Oh, the highest earners have seen their salaries increase exponentially in the past few decades. The rabble, not so lucky.
 
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