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End of seasonQuestion about Quad wins. Does the “Quad” get counted at the time of the game or based on the end of the season ranking?
End of seasonQuestion about Quad wins. Does the “Quad” get counted at the time of the game or based on the end of the season ranking?
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Question about Quad wins. Does the “Quad” get counted at the time of the game or based on the end of the season ranking?
I mean, if you did not base it on full season performance, how would you even begin to quantify early season games? What quadrant would you assign the Maine game? Miami was a top 40 team through their first couple games of the year... should a team that beat them then get credit for a high quality win?End of season
I was just asking out of forgetfulness. However teams get better or worse due to practice or injury so beating a team early in the year and then they improve may not have been a win against a quad 1 team at the time. So it’s not perfect and we need to do the tallying of wins at the end.I mean, if you did not base it on full season performance, how would you even begin to quantify early season games? What quadrant would you assign the Maine game? Miami was a top 40 team through their first couple games of the year... should a team that beat them then get credit for a high quality win?
Alas, no system is perfect.I was just asking out of forgetfulness. However teams get better or worse due to practice or injury so beating a team early in the year and then they improve may not have been a win against a quad 1 team at the time. So it’s not perfect and we need to do the tallying of wins at the end.
It’s not that bad a question. Beating Auburn pre-Broome injury means a lot more than post-injury.I mean, if you did not base it on full season performance, how would you even begin to quantify early season games? What quadrant would you assign the Maine game? Miami was a top 40 team through their first couple games of the year... should a team that beat them then get credit for a high quality win?
Is it possible that the league is just more top heavy than ever before? With all the player movement, maybe the top talent is now stockpiled on the top ten or so teams. Seems like this could be a trend that continues in the coming years unless some kind of change is made.Will Warren points out how many great teams there are this year, including Duke:
"With an average Net Rating of +34.11, this current group of top five teams (Auburn, Duke, Houston, Iowa State, Tennessee) blows any other I can find on record out of the water. The same almost goes for 6-10, with an average Net Rating of +27.45, the highest at this point of the season since 1999. As a whole, the top 50 averages a Net Rating of +22.01, which smokes the previous February 1-or-earlier record of +20.49 in 2009. At face value, we are trending towards the highest-quality, toughest NCAA Tournament in at least 30 years."
Here's a link where you can read more, but much of the content is paywalled. https://statsbywill.substack.com/p/the-2025-ncaa-tournament-field-could
I think that's another way of saying the same thing. The top teams are better, relative to the field, because the talent is more concentrated at the top. With NIL, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, at least for now.Is it possible that the league is just more top heavy than ever before? With all the player movement, maybe the top talent is now stockpiled on the top ten or so teams. Seems like this could be a trend that continues in the coming years unless some kind of change is made.
Not all of the expected top teams and big spenders are performing at the top. Some spent their money wiser than others. Take Arkansas as an example of this.I think that's another way of saying the same thing. The top teams are better, relative to the field, because the talent is more concentrated at the top. With NIL, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, at least for now.
That is why pro sports have salary caps, luxury taxes and drafts. In the wild West the strong have the most.With NIL, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, at least for now.
Or Kansas State.Not all of the expected top teams and big spenders are performing at the top. Some spent their money wiser than others. Take Arkansas as an example of this.
It's now Saturday, January 18, 2025. Where do they stand now? Inquiring minds want to know.#2 offense and #2 defense in KenPom as of Friday, Jan 17, 2025.
I haven't bothered to download all the pre-tourney files, but here are the teams that were Top Five in both Adjusted Offensive and Defensive Efficiency (I'll call them Top 5 x 2 teams) in the end-of-season rankings for Duke since '97 (with NCAA Tournament Outcome):#2 offense and #2 defense in KenPom as of Friday, Jan 17, 2025.
No games have completed yet on Saturday. Still the same.It's now Saturday, January 18, 2025. Where do they stand now? Inquiring minds want to know.
If you ever successfully download the pre-tourney files for 1997, 1998, 1999, or 2000, please let me know. When I download those, all I've get are completely blank spreadsheets. (Though 2001 pre-tourney works for me.)I haven't bothered to download all the pre-tourney files...
The Vegas spread accounts for Brown being out; nerd polls don't.Did we actually lost points in Bart Torvik's rankings after the BC game? We covered his spread but he only gives us a 93 in game ranking which is quite low.
Kinda odd