CameronBornAndBred
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My wife LOVES that guy! She's always saying she's gonna record our cats and send them to him.
2024 U.S. Presidential election
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Old Quad Dog
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Dead cat bounce. After all, they are eating the cats!
ragamuffin
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The threats in Springfield worry me (even further) about what happens post-election. They show that when Trump points, violence or threats of violence still follow. This article from the Atlantic says Jan. 6 was not a one-off, just a prelude. The events in Springfield seem to prove the point.Springfield schools were closed again today due to bomb threats arising from Trump's baseless claims that Haitian immigrants are eating people's pets.
Bomb threats force second consecutive day of school closures in Springfield, Ohio
Several local leaders have also been targeted in the wake of baseless claims aimed at Haitian immigrants that have been repeated by former President Donald Trump.www.nbcnews.com
Springfield Schools Closed After Bomb Threats Linked to MAGA’s Anti-Immigrant Conspiracy Theory
Two elementary schools were evacuated and a middle school shut down in Springfield, Ohio, Friday following a series of bomb threats.www.mediaite.com
If this doesn't fit within the "horse race" window, sue me. But just how far over the wall do Trump and his MAGA minions need to go before the sensible, rational majority rises up and repudiates these tactics -- disseminating ever-more-dangerous conspiracy theories for political propaganda purposes, without regard to the threat of violence they pose to children, public officials, and innocent immigrants? What has happened to our nation's collective sense of common decency?
What I Saw on the January 6 Committee
The attack on the Capitol was never a single, isolated event, but the outburst of a movement that is still fighting.
SkyBrickey
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This perhaps props up the stock price a while longer while other insiders, including family members, come out of the lockup next week.
Even without DJT that's millions of shares that are suddenly free to trade by mostly financially astute insiders. All these folks know the stock is way overvalued relative to any fundamentals. So what do they do? Buy, hold or sell? Pretty obvious they will start unwinding their positions...
Two of those insiders are former Apprentice contestants. Between them they have about 9M shares. One is Wes Moss, an Atlanta financial advisor. They won a legal battle against Trump who was trying to reclaim their shares. Bad blood. I'm guessing that was probably music to their ears today because it gives them a bigger window to get out. Here's their story from the NYT if anyone is interested...
Legal Fight Over Trump Media’s Ownership Adds to Its Woes
Two ex-contestants on “The Apprentice” sold the former president on the idea of a social media platform. Now, the company and the pair are wrangling over their stake.
CameronBornAndBred
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Any dreams of it falling under $12 were hampered by it climbing back almost 2 bucks today. (No consolation to folks that bought it when it was $20 higher)
The TAL piece is particularly informative as it interviews a number of USCIS workers who are charged with implementing the policy, but Biden's dismantling of asylum is well documented in a range of sources.
SkyBrickey
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I know a good bit about this issue from a prior work life.
Trust me, on the Republican side, it is the most performative political issue in American history. It's a big joke.
Big business loves, depends on, the cheap labor that the 11M+ undocumented immigrants provide. Big business supports the Republicans. Republicans fear-monger the issue with the masses to win elections but have absolutely zero intention in comprehensively addressing the problem. If those 11M people were either deported or suddenly documented as guest workers, big business would either lose the cheap labor or it would become much more expensive. Neither of these things will ever happen as long as Republicans have some control over the issue.
It's down 20% from the spike. That stock doesn't trap on fundamentals or logic. It's 100% meme stock that can be manipulated by coordinated trading through places like r/wallstreetbets on Reddit.
No. You will see people do this all the time. Warren Buffet is famous for it to shore up confidence in companies he's invested in. If it lies he could be open to a class action lawsuit from shareholders though.
SkyBrickey
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There have been a lot of these. I agree it's the BEST.My wife LOVES that guy! She's always saying she's gonna record our cats and send them to him.
SkyBrickey
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I'm hearing some smart analysts make the case that to win this election, she's got to get sharper and stronger on her economic message. And I agree. Every poll says this is the #1 issue and that Trump is winning on it.
The Dems always prioritize working and middle class families with their economic policies vs Repubs. And she's no different. Trump's one significant economic policy in his first term was massive tax cuts heavily tilted to the wealthiest vs the Infrastructure and Chips bills under Biden that did enormous good for the middle class.
She needs to find a way to break through and win on this.
The Dems always prioritize working and middle class families with their economic policies vs Repubs. And she's no different. Trump's one significant economic policy in his first term was massive tax cuts heavily tilted to the wealthiest vs the Infrastructure and Chips bills under Biden that did enormous good for the middle class.
She needs to find a way to break through and win on this.
CameronBornAndBred
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Here's what the future President of the United States would do if one of them was burning. Bold highlight is mine.
In some reality out there, this is not a winning campaign strategy.
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In some reality out there, this is not a winning campaign strategy.
Trump says he would withhold California fire aid unless Newsom 'signs those papers'
Former President Trump presented a dystopian image of California as a warning about what would happen to the nation if Kamala Harris is elected president.
A number of people have posted on this thread something similar over the past days (weeks, months, probably years). SG and others have, imo, highlighted a set of deeply unsettling issues about democracy, fealty to the Constitution and the rule of law, and the the character of candidates. More than just a few posters have noted, pointedly if cautiously, that the fundamental problem isn’t Trump, but the voters.
Do those who will vote for Trump despite the countless — countless, day after day, month after month — examples of his ugliness lack common decency? Some substantial percentage of MAGA-identifiers certainly don’t exude decency. An astounding proportion of evangelicals enthusiastically support an indecent vulgarian. Other Trump voters refuse to be grouped with MAGA, and tend to avoid thinking about Trump’s excesses, explaining that their daily lives (inflation, standard of living) were better under Trump. They are presumably uncomfortable with Trump’s ugliness, but cannot emotionally afford to judge — by their own normal standards of decency — Trump’s character as of primary importance. They appear to set aside — they hope and intend temporarily — concerns about obvious character flaws, in favor of a near-desperate hope for personal/family financial stability.
There are millions of Trump-tending voters who are not MAGA-deranged, not evangelical hypocrites. The Cheneys, Kinzinger, the reluctant generals, the Defense experts, Never Trumpers, and still actual conservatives hope to persuade these not-conspiratorial, not-deranged, not-indecent, absolutely patriotic independent and Trump-leaning voters to reject Trump’s vicious project.
We can surely say we have, yes, lost “our nation’s collective sense of common decency.” So we are left, agonizingly, with the hope that we can recover in the short term that sense among an electoral majority; in the hopes that we can then in the intermediate term recreate a respectful, functioning democratic polity.
Sounds like my favorite coastal red states shouldn’t count on FEMA after Hurricanes anymore, at least when a democrat is in office. Sorry Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Florida and the Carolinas. Californians pays a lot more federal taxes than the federal government spends there. California is supporting those red states.Here's what the future President of the United States would do if one of them was burning. Bold highlight is mine.
In some reality out there, this is not a winning campaign strategy.
..Trump says he would withhold California fire aid unless Newsom 'signs those papers'
Former President Trump presented a dystopian image of California as a warning about what would happen to the nation if Kamala Harris is elected president.
burnspbesq
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Are you actually suggesting that those are not the same thing?
SkyBrickey
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I don't think MAGA is going away with Trump. A DeSantis or Cotton or Hawley or Tucker Carlson will take up the mantle of fear mongering and lib-hating.
But none of these men have the level of malignant narcissism and cult celebrity following of Trump. These men, I believe, will feel some degree of shame that Trump just does not feel. For that reason I do think the level of lying and bullying and divisiveness will dial down when Trump goes to prison or strokes out or otherwise disappears from the public scene...
SkyBrickey
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Great message from Springfield, OH native John Legend. If you didn't catch the back story, a big group of Haitians LEGALLY immigrated to Springfield to work unfilled factory jobs. The factory owner says they are great workers and he'd love to have more...
burnspbesq
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Remember “as always, if any of your IM force are caught or killed, the Secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions”?
Here’s the modern equivalent.
Here’s the modern equivalent.
PackMan97
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Significant overlap but Republicans are a cautionary tale. More than you think may care only about their team winning.
FosterCoachK82
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Same here, he is very funny. I look forward to it every week, don’t need to agree with him on everything.
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