I’m sure his instructions were to let Brown shoot as much as he wanted from out there
MBB: Duke 82, unc 69 - Postgame Thread
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doctorhook
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So I have heard different interpretations of the head tap, what is yours?
TKG
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As the youngins’ say: Blank around and find out.
ragamuffin
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My only concern after an awesome win is the turnovers. Carolina brought hard pressure for the first 20 and we did not respond well. Considering that Carolina is not actually good at D, it concerns me for when we face an excellent ball pressure D. I assume we will be fine, but we have not had much chance to play against great defenses. Except in practice. 
MChambers
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Simplest way would be to increase the size of the restricted area.
MChambers
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Yes, but this was a secondary defender. Cooper had left Lubin, his primary defender, in the dust.
And Withers wasn't trying to make a defensive play (other than drawing a charge). He didn't go straight up and try for the block. I understand that the rule doesn't require that, because he was outside the restricted area (barely). Maybe the restricted area needs to be even bigger?
sick delta buddies
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That stat was after he picked up his 3rd foul. We were up 41-32 at the time of foul 3 and UNC had went ahead 52-47 early in the 2nd.
AGDukesky
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Thank you for posting this first! As much as I love Battier, I hate that defense is rewarded for doing nothing but trying to impersonate a hurdle.
To be clear, there are situations where it should be illegal for the offensive player to plow over a defender on the way to the basket. I prefer that to be against the primary defender and not someone who just pops up out of no where and the driver could never have seen. Defenders should be encouraged to challenge the shot not create dangerous situations of undercutting airborne players.
i thought the heels played outstanding d for the first 20 minutes, as well as any we've faced all season. in that sense, this was a great test. i assume other teams will play us this way in the tourny. the downside for most of them is that playing that hard on the defensive end + having to play against our defense on the offensive end + contending with our (increasing) depth = running our of gas with 10+ minutes in the second half.My only concern after an awesome win is the turnovers. Carolina brought hard pressure for the first 20 and we did not respond well. Considering that Carolina is not actually good at D, it concerns me for when we face an excellent ball pressure D. I assume we will be fine, but we have not had much chance to play against great defenses. Except in practice.
Dr. Maturin
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Truly. I honestly feel sorry for people who don't have sports as a healthy outlet for emotional release.
That is because you are blind as evidenced by the dark glassesI saw no needle or thread.
Speaking of blind, the refs… I am a believer in goodcalls, bad calls and correct calls; good calls are wrong that go your way, bad calls are wrong that go against and correct calls are just correct. I thought there were a lot of bad calls in that game. The fact that they initially called to very obvious three-pointers as two pointers to me demonstrates bias, even though they did correct eventually. Just shows where their heads were at. Now there were several good calls too, beyond Kon’s diving for the loose ball. But I thought the refs really tried to make it a game when it looked like we were gonna blow them out, fortunately we’re better than that
Go Duke! 9F!
ClemmonsDevil
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Caaaaaallbaaaaack!
I think the frustrating thing for our fans about the referees is that there is not consistency game to game, or even within games. As the fan of a Duke; it is frustrating when teams simply use illegal physicality to keep up with us and kind of dare the refs to make calls in their home arena. Not sure what is done already; but I do feel that more money/training/staffing/technology need to go in raising the quality of officiating at both the college and nba level. To me seems like it is not supported adequately compared to the investments made in all other aspects of the game.
That all being said; this team has absolutely been tough as nails playing through contact and keeping a level head with the officiating. I also think that CJS has been more demonstrative this year
That all being said; this team has absolutely been tough as nails playing through contact and keeping a level head with the officiating. I also think that CJS has been more demonstrative this year
Indoor66
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Speak for yourself on the doesn't matter issue. You may need to self-check your value structure.
g111m1c
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A defender has the right to be in position. Why would an offensive player choose to collide with a defensive player who is not moving?
It’s kind of like saying a driver is not at fault when they crash into a legally-parked car.
so, are we suggesting the offensive player should be in control enough to navigate around the unmoving defender? blasphemy.
g111m1c
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Being in position to try to make it more challenging for the offensive players to get closer to the rim IS playing defense. If the offensive player doesn’t navigate that “roadblock” effectively by either stopping short or dribbling around, that’s on the offensive player. I used an analogy in another post: if the driver of a car crashes into another legally parked, stationary car, that’s on the driver.
This play was different in that it was not obvious whether or not Withers was stationary.
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g111m1c
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I disagree. I think that if an offensive player is not able to navigate a stationary hurdle and instead tries to knock over said hurdle, then that’s an offensive foul.
With that said, being a stationary hurdle is typically not a great defensive strategy. But it’s a legal one.