2024-25 DWBB - ACC Champs!

I'm sure I'm not alone in really appreciating the courtside reporting during the game.
Thanks for the comment. I get "yelled" at in chat sometimes when I comment during men's games in Cameron, as the live action is perhaps 30 seconds ahead of most feeds. (Other than moonpie23's, whose feed seems to be a few seconds ahead of live action!) A little less hectic in chat for most women's games. For a while last night, it was only me and Brevity. More people monitoring the EK thread.

Can't do courtside reporting in too many places. Wake may be the only place where there's general admission seats behind the benches (for women's games.) Typically, the seats are reserved for the team's families/friends, or season ticket holders.

I estimated there were maybe 300 people in attendance, including the band and a young group of dancers that performed at halftime (highlight of the game for Wake fans for sure. Nice performance; they kept their cool and performance going when the music stopped playing.) I understand it's hard to support a team in last place, but I don't think they drew too well with previous coaches, including alum Jen Hoover, that were competitive (They've made the NCAAs twice, including 2021 with a .500 record.)

Retirement allows me to travel a bit more, so this was my fourth away game this season - Cheaters, UVa, GT and Wake. Ironically couldn't get tickets for State (or more accurately didn't want to pay the StubHub cost), which is closest to me.
 
DWBB's facebook page has released a few Valentine's images, with those messaged heart candies in mind.

They all stick to the Valentine's theme, except maybe for this one. :)


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And this one is my personal fav :ROFLMAO:


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The others can be found here.

 
Attended the game last nite, sitting mid court behind scorers table. We found it interesting that when refs were looking game film, wake had two people blocking the view of the screen from fans. Is this just wake or this this an ACC thing?
 
I should have a preview soon for Monday's game against Notre Dame, but in the meantime, here's some bonus content.

As an idle thought exercise during the summer, I decided to compose three 8-player rotations to illustrate how strong Notre Dame is compared to the rest of the league.

1. Notre Dame's top 8 players this season

Sonia Citron, 6-1 senior guard
Hannah Hidalgo, 5-6 sophomore guard
Liza Karlen, 6-2 grad forward
Liatu King, 6-0 grad forward
Kate Koval, 6-5 freshman forward
Olivia Miles, 5-10 grad guard
Cassandre Prosper, 6-2 sophomore guard
Maddy Westbeld, 6-3 grad forward

2. The best 8 players to transfer out of the ACC in the offseason (including California, SMU, and Stanford)

Amirah Abdur-Rahim, 6-3 junior forward, Texas A&M (formerly SMU)
Georgia Amoore, 5-6 grad guard, Kentucky (formerly Virginia Tech)
Shayeann Day-Wilson, 5-6 senior guard, LSU (formerly Miami)
Kiki Iriafen, 6-3 senior forward, USC (formerly Stanford)
Deja Kelly, 5-8 senior guard, Oregon (formerly UNC)
Alyssa Latham, 6-2 sophomore forward, Tennessee (formerly Syracuse)
Mir McLean, 5-11 junior wing, Maryland (formerly Virginia)
Ruby Whitehorn, 5-11 junior guard, Tennessee (formerly Clemson)

3. The ACC's best 8 returning players (outside of Notre Dame)

Olivia Cochran, 6-3 grad forward, Louisville
Aziaha James, 5-9 senior guard, NC State
Ta'Niya Latson, 5-8 junior guard, Florida State
Tonie Morgan, 5-9 junior guard, Georgia Tech
Reigan Richardson, 5-11 senior guard, Duke
Saniya Rivers, 6-1 senior guard, NC State
Makayla Timpson, 6-2 senior forward, Florida State
Alyssa Ustby, 6-1 grad guard, UNC

I'm open to feedback, but I think you could probably rank the above rotations in that order. That last team would probably look a bit different now, and would be better if I expanded the criteria to include ACC newcomers (like freshman Toby Fournier and incoming transfer Khadija Faye).
 
State blows a late 4 point lead, and TOTALLY blows the last play of the game, and loses to Carolina by one. While it always sucks to see the Heels win, it does help us in the standings as it puts State back in a tie with us at 2 losses each. (Both of our losses to these two teams.)
 
Duke WBB plays at Notre Dame on Monday 2/17 at 6pm ET on ESPN (streaming link, listen, live stats)

The #13 Blue Devils travel north to face the #2 Notre Dame Fighting Irish in the 9,000-seat Purcell Pavilion, and will try to give the home team its first ACC loss. The Monday evening game is the first of a Duke Basketball doubleheader on ESPN, with the Duke men playing at Virginia right after.

This will be a tough challenge. Notre Dame has double-digit wins over fellow top 10 teams Texas, USC, and Connecticut. Aside from a pair of late November losses to TCU and Utah in the Cayman Islands Classic, they have not lost a game this season. They are undefeated in the United States, which is concerning, since the NCAA Tournament will definitely take place on the mainland.

Head coach Niele Ivey is in her fifth season on the job, and her team has torn through the ACC schedule so far. Aside from a 9-point win at Clemson (where they were without their leading scorer, Hannah Hidalgo), they have not been seriously challenged in 13 conference games, winning most of them by 20 or more points. They most recently had a 31-point road victory against Pittsburgh (88-57: recap, box score, highlights, full replay).


In last Tuesday's ACC media teleconference, Duke coach Kara Lawson did not want to look ahead to Notre Dame -- her focus was correctly on Wake Forest -- but she did take the time to point out that she'd never seen a team stockpile so much talent:

Coach Lawson: "I think they have 6 first team All Conference players on one team, is that right? I mean, [Hannah] Hidalgo's first team, [Olivia] Miles is first team, [Sonia] Citron and [Maddy] Westbeld have had to have been first team at some point in their career, maybe. Last year [Liatu] King was first team All-ACC, last year [Liza] Karlen was first team All-Big East... holy moly, that's pretty impressive. It's a lot of experience, right? I just know what they are on paper: one of the most talented teams, probably, that we've gone against since I've been here at Duke."

She's correct, by the way.

2020-2021 All-ACC: 1st team Westbeld
2021-2022 All-ACC: 1st team Miles
2022-2023 All-ACC: 1st team Citron, Miles; 2nd team Westbeld
2023-2024 All-ACC: 1st team Hidalgo, King (at Pittsburgh); 2nd team Citron, Westbeld
2023-2024 All-Big East: 1st team Karlen

If Coach Ivey continues her current rotation, we're looking at a starting lineup of 5 former first team All-ACC players. Here's a look at the Fighting Irish roster:

PROBABLE STARTERS

5-6 sophomore guard Hannah Hidalgo #3 (25.2 pts, 5.4 reb, 4.0 ast, 4.1 stl)
5-10 grad guard Olivia Miles #5 (17.0 pts, 6.0 reb, 6.3 ast, 1.4 stl)
6-1 senior guard Sonia Citron #11 (13.5 pts, 5.4 reb, 2.9 ast, 2.0 stl)
6-0 grad forward Liatu King #20 (12.0 pts, 10.6 reb, 1.6 ast, 2.2 stl)
6-3 grad forward Maddy Westbeld #21 (8.5 pts, 3.4 reb, 0.8 ast, 1.1 blk)

TOP RESERVES

6-2 redshirt sophomore guard Cassandre Prosper #8 (6.8 pts, 4.4 reb, 1.1 ast)
6-2 grad forward Liza Karlen #32 (6.3 pts, 3.5 reb, 1.3 ast, 1.0 stl)
6-5 freshman forward Kate Koval #13 (6.0 pts, 5.6 reb, 1.6 ast, 2.1 blk)
6-1 sophomore guard Emma Risch #2 (5.7 pts, 1.8 reb, 1.1 ast)

BENCH PLAYERS

5-4 grad guard Sarah Cernugel #25 (0.8 pts, 0.1 reb, 0.1 ast)
5-10 freshman guard Luci Jensen #15 (0.0 pts, 0.7 reb, 0.2 ast)
6-3 junior forward Bella Tehrani #10 (0.0 pts, 0.0 reb, 0.0 ast)

INJURED/OTHER

5-11 junior guard KK Bransford #14 -- lower leg injury, redshirting this season (link)
6-4 senior forward Kylee Watson #22 -- knee injury, out indefinitely (link)

Hannah Hidalgo is ranked 2nd nationally in both points and steals. She went full Grinch -- the green uniform helps -- in this video from last December, How Hannah Stole the Ball:


Hidalgo had a phenomenal freshman campaign last year in the absence of Olivia Miles, whose knee injury in the spring of 2023 wiped out her 2023-2024 season. Now healthy, Miles has definitively answered any questions about how she and Hidalgo would coexist. Basically, they've become one of the nation's most dynamic backcourts. Miles ranks 6th nationally in assists, and she's coming off a season-high 28 points in Thursday's win over Pittsburgh, including 8 made threes, which ties a school record.

Together they put up an average line of 42 points, 11 rebounds, 10 assists, and 5 steals. They shoot in volume and shoot the ball well, combining for about 43.6 percent from outside and 84.8 percent at the line. The ACC Digital Network has put together midseason highlights for both Miles and Hidalgo.


Liatu King, a grad transfer from Pittsburgh, is now a 3rd or 4th option on offense, but still averages a double-double. She leads the ACC in field goal percentage, is 2nd in rebounds, and 6th in steals. Sonia Citron leads her team in free throw percentage (over 89 percent) and her steal average is 10th in the league; she, Hidalgo, and Miles are high usage players, all averaging over 33 minutes per game. Maddy Westbeld missed half the season with a left foot injury, but returned in early January and was soon inserted into the starting lineup. Kate Koval, a freshman, is 3rd in the conference as a shotblocker.

Because the Irish are so loaded at the top, they do not produce a lot of bench scoring, but they look elite in so many other team stats. According to Sports Reference, they rank in the top 20 nationally in points, rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks, and are top 30 in every form of shooting percentage. I took a look at the other 9 teams in the AP top 10 to see if that across-the-board excellence is normal. It's not.

UCLA: 211th in steals, 124th in 3-point percentage, 183rd in free throw percentage
Texas: 31st in rebounds, 30th in assists, 32nd in steals, 46th in twos, 208th in threes, 51st in free throws
South Carolina: 31st in assists, 69th in steals, 39th in twos, 84th in threes, 46th in free throws
LSU: 68th in assists, 54th in steals, 38th in blocks, 68th in twos, 77th in threes, 83rd in free throws
USC: 26th in assists, 24th in steals, 55th in field goals, 58th in twos, 107th in threes
Connecticut: 182nd in rebounds, 23rd in steals, 72nd in blocks, 57th in free throws
Kentucky: 36th in points, 66th in rebounds, 340th in steals, 36th in field goals, 109th in threes
Ohio State: 186th in rebounds, 78th in assists, 86th in blocks, 48th in field goals, 63rd in twos, 140th in threes, 239th in free throws
NC State: 30th in points, 151st in assists, 294th in steals, 37th in blocks, 44th in field goals, 51st in twos, 93rd in threes, 313th in free throws

Bart Torvik is predicting Notre Dame to win, but by single digits at home: 74-65.

CategoryNotre Dame (22-2, 13-0 ACC)Duke (20-5, 11-2 ACC)
Points Scored87.6 (4th nationally)76.4 (38th)
Points Allowed60.9 (98th)58.4 (56th)
Scoring Margin (NCAA.com)+26.7 (2nd)+18.0 (24th)
Bench Points (NCAA.com)14.0 (293rd)33.0 (2nd)
Total Rebounds44.0 (5th)39.2 (72nd)
--- Offensive Rebounds12.4 (110th)15.0 (21st)
--- Defensive Rebounds31.6 (3rd)24.2 (225th)
Assists18.5 (12th)17.6 (21st)
Assist/Turnover Ratio (NCAA.com)1.21 (29th)1.19 (33th)
Steals11.7 (18th)11.1 (30th)
Blocks5.7 (8th)4.3 (40th)
Turnovers15.3 (126th fewest)14.8 (96th fewest)
Personal Fouls15.0 (68th fewest)16.9 (200th fewest)
Field Goal Percentage50.4% (3rd)45.6% (35th)
2-Point FG Percentage53.6% (20th)49.4% (82nd)
3-Point FG Percentage42.3% (1st)35.7% (32nd)
Free Throw Percentage76.9% (29th)66.9% (294th)
NET Ranking (NCAA.com)#4 (NET Summary)#8 (NET Summary)
--- Strength of Schedule11th10th
--- Quad 1 record5-24-4
--- Quad 2 record7-05-1
--- Quad 3 record2-07-0
--- Quad 4 record8-04-0
T-Rank (Bart Torvik)#4 (T-Page)#7 (T-Page)

In October, the NCAA published a PDF file of frequently asked questions for the NET in women's basketball. Quadrants are defined on page 4:

Quadrant 1: Home 1-25, Neutral 1-35, Away 1-45
Quadrant 2: Home 26-55, Neutral 36-65, Away 46-80
Quadrant 3: Home 56-90, Neutral 66-105, Away 81-130
Quadrant 4: Home 91-362, Neutral 106-362, Away 131-362
 
The NCAA Women's Tournament Selection Committee did their one-month-early bracket reveal of the overall top 16 seeds today.


SPOKANE 1

1 UCLA (#1 overall)
2 LSU (#6)
3 Duke (#10)
4 Tennessee (#16)

BIRMINGHAM 2

1 South Carolina (#2 overall)
2 NC State (#8)
3 TCU (#9)
4 Oklahoma (#15)

BIRMINGHAM 3

1 Texas (#3 overall)
2 Connecticut (#7)
3 UNC (#11)
4 Ohio State (#14)

SPOKANE 4

1 Notre Dame (#4 overall)
2 USC (#5)
3 Kansas State (#12)
4 Kentucky (#13)

I don't entirely agree with the assigned seeds here, but I also don't hate Duke's region. It could be worse.
 
The NCAA Women's Tournament Selection Committee did their one-month-early bracket reveal of the overall top 16 seeds today.


SPOKANE 1

1 UCLA (#1 overall)
2 LSU (#6)
3 Duke (#10)
4 Tennessee (#16)

BIRMINGHAM 2

1 South Carolina (#2 overall)
2 NC State (#8)
3 TCU (#9)
4 Oklahoma (#15)

BIRMINGHAM 3

1 Texas (#3 overall)
2 Connecticut (#7)
3 UNC (#11)
4 Ohio State (#14)

SPOKANE 4

1 Notre Dame (#4 overall)
2 USC (#5)
3 Kansas State (#12)
4 Kentucky (#13)

I don't entirely agree with the assigned seeds here, but I also don't hate Duke's region. It could be worse.
Seems good to me, nothing really unexpected. UCLA is currently down by 2 points in the fourth to #22 MSU, so those top seeds are going to be interesting to watch and see who wins the race.
 
This could be a big blow for the baby blues, or be nothing, but sitting out almost the whole game implies the former.

North Carolina coach Courtney Banghart had no update on the health of top scorer and rebounder Alyssa Ustby after she exited early in the 12th-ranked Tar Heels' win against 10th-ranked rival NC State on Sunday.

Ustby played just 2½ minutes in the 66-65 win. She left the sideline after checking out, and then never returned to the bench after exiting. It wasn't exactly clear what had occurred.

Banghart said she didn't know exactly what happened to Ustby "and still don't" beyond team staffers telling her at halftime that Ustby was done for the day.

Carolina still won, mostly because of a gawd awful 2nd quarter by State (4 points), and some gawd awful decision making in the waning seconds.

 
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