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Adonis Arms. Are we sure they're not really just making a movie and pretending to release a summer league roster?
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The Detroit Pistons of today may or may not have a bad boy streak, but I had more than my share of fun making a visual depiction of their Summer League roster:
Jaden Ivey and Jalen Duren, both selected to the All-Rookie second team, are here. Ivey only played one full game in Las Vegas last summer, getting injured early in his second appearance. Maybe this means he'll feel driven to play more, but I still think both of them will be used sparingly.
2023 draft picks Ausar Thompson and Marcus Sasser will make their Vegas debuts, along with undrafted rookies and Sweet 16 players Tosan Evboumwan of Princeton and Jack Nunge of Xavier. James Wiseman, Golden State's #2 overall pick in 2020, was traded to Detroit in February. Isaiah Livers and Zavier Simpson add to the Michigan Wolverines tally. Buddy Boeheim, former Syracuse player, had a two-way contract with the Pistons last season.
Jaden Ivey and Jalen Duren, both selected to the All-Rookie second team, are here. Ivey only played one full game in Las Vegas last summer, getting injured early in his second appearance. Maybe this means he'll feel driven to play more, but I still think both of them will be used sparingly.
2023 draft picks Ausar Thompson and Marcus Sasser will make their Vegas debuts, along with undrafted rookies and Sweet 16 players Tosan Evboumwan of Princeton and Jack Nunge of Xavier. James Wiseman, Golden State's #2 overall pick in 2020, was traded to Detroit in February. Isaiah Livers and Zavier Simpson add to the Michigan Wolverines tally. Buddy Boeheim, former Syracuse player, had a two-way contract with the Pistons last season.
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The Memphis Grizzlies now have a roster to play Summer League games, first in Salt Lake City and then in Las Vegas.
Matthew Hurt is participating in his third Summer League; he was with the Rockets in 2021 and the Bucks in 2022. Last season he was in the G League, playing for the Grizzlies affiliate. His player page says he averaged about 14 points and 4 rebounds, shooting 39% from long distance.
In another thread I asked, "Who the hell is Tarik Biberovic?" after he was taken with the #56 pick in last week's draft. Provided he gets clearance from FIBA to join the team this summer, he'll answer my question, making his NBA debut alongside fellow 2023 draft pick GG Jackson II and undrafted rookies Timmy Allen of Texas and Manny Bates of Butler (and NC State before that).
I'm going to tack on the Phoenix Suns announcement here because their Summer League rosters are always boring. Who are these guys? Where's the angle?
New draft pick Toumani Camara (2nd rounder from Dayton) and Jordan Usher (formerly of Georgia Tech, played pro ball in Turkey last season) are not big enough draws to make me watch this team.
Matthew Hurt is participating in his third Summer League; he was with the Rockets in 2021 and the Bucks in 2022. Last season he was in the G League, playing for the Grizzlies affiliate. His player page says he averaged about 14 points and 4 rebounds, shooting 39% from long distance.
In another thread I asked, "Who the hell is Tarik Biberovic?" after he was taken with the #56 pick in last week's draft. Provided he gets clearance from FIBA to join the team this summer, he'll answer my question, making his NBA debut alongside fellow 2023 draft pick GG Jackson II and undrafted rookies Timmy Allen of Texas and Manny Bates of Butler (and NC State before that).
I'm going to tack on the Phoenix Suns announcement here because their Summer League rosters are always boring. Who are these guys? Where's the angle?
New draft pick Toumani Camara (2nd rounder from Dayton) and Jordan Usher (formerly of Georgia Tech, played pro ball in Turkey last season) are not big enough draws to make me watch this team.
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The Portland Trail Blazers are the 10th (and hopefully last) team to announce a Summer League roster Friday.
Scoot Henderson, Kris Murray, and Rayan Rupert are the new draftees, while Antoine Davis (3,664 career points at Detroit Mercy) and Malachi Smith (1,626 career points, played most recently for Gonzaga) are the undrafted rookies. 2022 draft pick Shaedon Sharpe (0 career points at Kentucky) will have a like-new Vegas experience, because he played only 6 minutes in one game last summer. Formerly in the ACC: Michael DeVoe of Georgia Tech and FSU's John Butler Jr and Christ Koumadje.
We are still waiting on the Oklahoma City Thunder, who start play Monday in Salt Lake City, and 9 teams setting up rosters for Las Vegas: the Atlanta Hawks, Boston Celtics, Denver Nuggets, Houston Rockets, Los Angeles Clippers, New Orleans Pelicans, New York Knicks, Toronto Raptors, and Washington Wizards.
Scoot Henderson, Kris Murray, and Rayan Rupert are the new draftees, while Antoine Davis (3,664 career points at Detroit Mercy) and Malachi Smith (1,626 career points, played most recently for Gonzaga) are the undrafted rookies. 2022 draft pick Shaedon Sharpe (0 career points at Kentucky) will have a like-new Vegas experience, because he played only 6 minutes in one game last summer. Formerly in the ACC: Michael DeVoe of Georgia Tech and FSU's John Butler Jr and Christ Koumadje.
We are still waiting on the Oklahoma City Thunder, who start play Monday in Salt Lake City, and 9 teams setting up rosters for Las Vegas: the Atlanta Hawks, Boston Celtics, Denver Nuggets, Houston Rockets, Los Angeles Clippers, New Orleans Pelicans, New York Knicks, Toronto Raptors, and Washington Wizards.
DJ was released back on June 5th. It is hard to say whether that was planned as a short term contract or something else. A lot of leagues in the Americas shuffle players in and out all season long by design without saying anything about either the player or the team. Trevon Duval and Jordan Goldwire both had brief tenures in the Dominican Republic recently. Hamilton did keep Javin under contract while letting him compete in the Summer League so that is definitely allowed in Canada.
Jordan Tucker was excellent in Bulgaria, leading his team to the finals. He signed there after making a good impression early in North Macedonia after being waived by his G League team.
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The Boston Celtics have released a Summer League roster. Expect a lot of dunkin'?
Gotta say I'm a little disappointed not to see Harry Giles III here. He is trying to make a comeback, and he and pal Jayson Tatum were in the news recently as Tatum helped lobby the league to change one of its rules on Giles' behalf, according to Chris Haynes of Bleacher Report:
You would think that if Giles were looking to stay in Boston on a two-way contract, that relationship would start in Summer League. Maybe he shows up elsewhere.
So who is on the roster? 2023 draft pick Jordan Walsh, undrafted rookie Sam Griesel, and a bunch of pros. I kind of hope that "Mulder and Scrubby" becomes a thing, but aside from that, I'm not very excited.
Gotta say I'm a little disappointed not to see Harry Giles III here. He is trying to make a comeback, and he and pal Jayson Tatum were in the news recently as Tatum helped lobby the league to change one of its rules on Giles' behalf, according to Chris Haynes of Bleacher Report:
You would think that if Giles were looking to stay in Boston on a two-way contract, that relationship would start in Summer League. Maybe he shows up elsewhere.
So who is on the roster? 2023 draft pick Jordan Walsh, undrafted rookie Sam Griesel, and a bunch of pros. I kind of hope that "Mulder and Scrubby" becomes a thing, but aside from that, I'm not very excited.
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The wait is over. The Oklahoma City Thunder finally share their roster, and it's pretty much everybody. How did this process go? I'm picturing actors J.K. Simmons and Ted Raimi in full Daily Bugle mode as Thunder GM Sam Presti and his underling (even though Presti looks more like Raimi):
"I want Jaylin Williams at Summer League."
"Wait. Did you mean Jalen Williams or Jaylin Williams?"
"Send them both! What about that big guy... Williams?
"We were looking at KJ Williams."
"Yeah, invite him too! Get all the Williamses. Montel, Paul, Serena..."
Well, almost everybody. Where is Cason Wallace? Thunder Wire is speculating that he isn't listed because his draft day trade isn't finalized. But Dereck Lively was at the other end of that trade, and Dallas put him on their roster, so...?
Looking again at the official team announcement, the Thunder's roster is specifically for the games in Salt Lake City. Las Vegas isn't even mentioned. So maybe Thunder Wire is right, and Dallas didn't care because they don't play until Las Vegas. I would expect an amended OKC roster later in the week for the Las Vegas games, adding Cason Wallace.
Does anyone get subtracted? Jalen Williams was not only on the All-Rookie first team; he finished 2nd to Paolo Banchero for Rookie of the Year. Much like Keegan Murray with the summer Kings and Bennedict Mathurin with the summer Pacers, Jalen Williams isn't going to play very much.
The current roster also has 2023 draft pick Keyontae Johnson, 2022 picks Chet Holmgren, Ousmane Dieng, and Jaylin Williams, and even 2021 picks Tre Mann and Jeremiah Robinson-Earl. This is Holmgren's second Summer League, but he is still considered a rookie since he missed all of last season. Tanner Groves (Oklahoma), Hunter Maldonado (Wyoming), Caleb McConnell (Rutgers), Justice Sueing (Ohio State), and KJ Williams (LSU) are the undrafted rookies.
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The world champion Denver Nuggets can still surprise. I look at their just-announced Summer League roster, expecting to see one former Duke player, and instead I find another.
Where you been, Cassius Stanley? Mostly in the G League (player page). Like Vernon Carey Jr and Tre Jones, he was selected in the second round of the 2020 NBA Draft. The Indiana Pacers signed him to a two-way contract, and he played 24 games with them (averaging under 4 minutes per game). The Pacers gave him a $1.4 million qualifying offer in the 2021 offseason, but then pulled it, making him a free agent. He became part of the Detroit Pistons organization, getting called up from their G League team for a series of 10-day contracts. He played 9 games for the Pistons in 2021-2022, averaging 6 points and 2 rebounds in 17 minutes per game. Last season he played for the Rockets' G League affiliate.
Denver approached the 2023 draft in keep-winning-now mode, adding Julian Strawther (age 21), Hunter Tyson (23), and Jalen Pickett (23). Each could make a Coors endorsement without getting in trouble. Aside from Duke's Stanley and Clemson's Tyson, the ACC can claim former Virginia player Armaan Franklin and Aamir Simms of Clemson. Also on the summer roster is Collin Gillespie, the two-way player from last season not named Jack White. Gillespie missed all of his rookie season after fracturing his leg during a practice sometime after his Vegas experience.
I was about to speculate on whether Jack White's absence from this roster is a show of confidence, and I guess it is. But not from Denver. Breaking news! As I write this, Thunder Wire is reporting that he's going to OKC on a 2-year deal. I took a break from this post and shared the story in the NBA offseason thread.
So now the Nuggets need to replace both Bruce Brown and Jack White. Gotta say, based on his colorful last name, I like Grant Golden's chances.
Where you been, Cassius Stanley? Mostly in the G League (player page). Like Vernon Carey Jr and Tre Jones, he was selected in the second round of the 2020 NBA Draft. The Indiana Pacers signed him to a two-way contract, and he played 24 games with them (averaging under 4 minutes per game). The Pacers gave him a $1.4 million qualifying offer in the 2021 offseason, but then pulled it, making him a free agent. He became part of the Detroit Pistons organization, getting called up from their G League team for a series of 10-day contracts. He played 9 games for the Pistons in 2021-2022, averaging 6 points and 2 rebounds in 17 minutes per game. Last season he played for the Rockets' G League affiliate.
Denver approached the 2023 draft in keep-winning-now mode, adding Julian Strawther (age 21), Hunter Tyson (23), and Jalen Pickett (23). Each could make a Coors endorsement without getting in trouble. Aside from Duke's Stanley and Clemson's Tyson, the ACC can claim former Virginia player Armaan Franklin and Aamir Simms of Clemson. Also on the summer roster is Collin Gillespie, the two-way player from last season not named Jack White. Gillespie missed all of his rookie season after fracturing his leg during a practice sometime after his Vegas experience.
I was about to speculate on whether Jack White's absence from this roster is a show of confidence, and I guess it is. But not from Denver. Breaking news! As I write this, Thunder Wire is reporting that he's going to OKC on a 2-year deal. I took a break from this post and shared the story in the NBA offseason thread.
So now the Nuggets need to replace both Bruce Brown and Jack White. Gotta say, based on his colorful last name, I like Grant Golden's chances.
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It's not on their website yet, but the Los Angeles Clippers have posted a Summer League roster on Facebook and Instagram. The official graphic looks like a movie poster based on a Nicholas Sparks novel, so I made my own.
We'll start with draft picks Kobe Brown and Miami super senior Jordan Miller (2023), Moussa Diabate (2022), and Jason Preston (2021). They're joined by... who are these guys? There's a fansite called 213 Hoops that breaks down the roster in great detail. Too long, didn't read. I guess I can just watch them in action and find out.
We'll start with draft picks Kobe Brown and Miami super senior Jordan Miller (2023), Moussa Diabate (2022), and Jason Preston (2021). They're joined by... who are these guys? There's a fansite called 213 Hoops that breaks down the roster in great detail. Too long, didn't read. I guess I can just watch them in action and find out.
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So, Jordan and Kobe are on the Clippers roster. Wow!!
And they still won’t win- just snake bit
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So, Jordan and Kobe are on the Clippers roster. Wow!!
Nope... TWO Jordans!
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Everyone knows there's only one Jordan. His name is "LeBron".
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The Summer League starts tomorrow with the Sacramento Kings hosting the California Classic and the Utah Jazz hosting their unnamed Salt Lake City Summer League event. Marketing! Call it something catchy, like "Jazz Fest" or "SLC Dunk", except both of those names are taken.
The Heat, Hornets, Kings, Lakers, Spurs, and Warriors are playing in Sacramento. SI/FanNation has a decent breakdown of the rosters and players to watch. (Alex O'Connell is the only Duke or Duke adjacent player here. And remember, Victor Wembanyama is joining the team in Vegas and will debut Friday.)
The Grizzlies, Jazz, Sixers, and Thunder are playing in Salt Lake City, in the once and future Delta Center. I guess the Jazz do know about marketing. Sarah Todd of the Deseret News has a good preview of what to expect from the home team; for example, first round draft picks Taylor Hendricks and Brice Sensabaugh are listed as day-to-day. (The Duke and Duke adjacent players here are Vernon Carey Jr, Matthew Hurt, DJ Steward, and Jordan Tucker. Also look out for "Stove" Wojciechowski as an assistant on the Jazz bench.)
Streaming links provided for the ESPN networks; the link for NBA TV is not specific to games, but to whatever is on the channel at the time. All game times are Eastern.
MONDAY, JULY 3
Heat vs. Lakers, 6pm on ESPN2
Grizzlies (Matthew Hurt) vs. 76ers (DJ Steward, Jordan Tucker), 7pm on NBA TV and ESPN3
Spurs vs. Hornets, 8pm on ESPN
Thunder vs. Jazz (Vernon Carey Jr), 9pm on NBA TV and ESPN3
Warriors vs. Kings (Alex O'Connell), 10pm on ESPN
The Heat, Hornets, Kings, Lakers, Spurs, and Warriors are playing in Sacramento. SI/FanNation has a decent breakdown of the rosters and players to watch. (Alex O'Connell is the only Duke or Duke adjacent player here. And remember, Victor Wembanyama is joining the team in Vegas and will debut Friday.)
The Grizzlies, Jazz, Sixers, and Thunder are playing in Salt Lake City, in the once and future Delta Center. I guess the Jazz do know about marketing. Sarah Todd of the Deseret News has a good preview of what to expect from the home team; for example, first round draft picks Taylor Hendricks and Brice Sensabaugh are listed as day-to-day. (The Duke and Duke adjacent players here are Vernon Carey Jr, Matthew Hurt, DJ Steward, and Jordan Tucker. Also look out for "Stove" Wojciechowski as an assistant on the Jazz bench.)
Streaming links provided for the ESPN networks; the link for NBA TV is not specific to games, but to whatever is on the channel at the time. All game times are Eastern.
MONDAY, JULY 3
Heat vs. Lakers, 6pm on ESPN2
Grizzlies (Matthew Hurt) vs. 76ers (DJ Steward, Jordan Tucker), 7pm on NBA TV and ESPN3
Spurs vs. Hornets, 8pm on ESPN
Thunder vs. Jazz (Vernon Carey Jr), 9pm on NBA TV and ESPN3
Warriors vs. Kings (Alex O'Connell), 10pm on ESPN
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The Atlanta Hawks (or at least their interns on Facebook and Instagram) have released their Summer League roster, and AJ Griffin is on it. This makes sense; he was in Las Vegas with the team last summer, but was considered day-to-day after an injury and never played. Looking forward to seeing him in action this time.
He and Tyrese Martin are the 2022 draft picks, and they're joined by 2023 draft picks Kobe Bufkin, Mouhamed Gueye, and Seth Lundy. Pretty strong ACC flavor here: aside from Duke's Griffin, we see Jarkel Joiner of NC State, Mfiondu Kabengele of Florida State, and Brady Manek of UNC. The rare Triangle trifecta. If Manek wasn't enough, there's undrafted rookie, loose cannon, and hip checker Uros Plavsic of Tennessee as well. Is your skin crawling yet?
Edited to add: if it isn't a picture, the Hawks aren't reporting it right now, but Peachtree Hoops is sharing that Hawks assistant Antonio Lang will serve as Summer League head coach. Maybe he can keep an eye on Plavsic and away from Griffin in practices.
He and Tyrese Martin are the 2022 draft picks, and they're joined by 2023 draft picks Kobe Bufkin, Mouhamed Gueye, and Seth Lundy. Pretty strong ACC flavor here: aside from Duke's Griffin, we see Jarkel Joiner of NC State, Mfiondu Kabengele of Florida State, and Brady Manek of UNC. The rare Triangle trifecta. If Manek wasn't enough, there's undrafted rookie, loose cannon, and hip checker Uros Plavsic of Tennessee as well. Is your skin crawling yet?
Edited to add: if it isn't a picture, the Hawks aren't reporting it right now, but Peachtree Hoops is sharing that Hawks assistant Antonio Lang will serve as Summer League head coach. Maybe he can keep an eye on Plavsic and away from Griffin in practices.
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The New Orleans Pelicans have a roster of young players to send to Summer League.
2023 draft pick Jordan Hawkins is the headliner, and let's hope that 2022 draft picks Dyson Daniels (ankle sprain) and EJ Liddell (season-cancelling knee injury) will have a healthier summer this time. Dereon Seabron, a two-way player for the Pelicans last season, went to NC State and is the only official ACC representative, though Cincinnati's Landers Nolley II and Mississippi State's Garrison Brooks transferred away from Virginia Tech and UNC, respectively.
Last summer I mocked the UNC powers-that-be for including Brooks among their guys in Summer League, while Duke did not include Alex O'Connell and Jordan Tucker. I argued that they were desperate to inflate their numbers. Let's see if those fools do it again.
2023 draft pick Jordan Hawkins is the headliner, and let's hope that 2022 draft picks Dyson Daniels (ankle sprain) and EJ Liddell (season-cancelling knee injury) will have a healthier summer this time. Dereon Seabron, a two-way player for the Pelicans last season, went to NC State and is the only official ACC representative, though Cincinnati's Landers Nolley II and Mississippi State's Garrison Brooks transferred away from Virginia Tech and UNC, respectively.
Last summer I mocked the UNC powers-that-be for including Brooks among their guys in Summer League, while Duke did not include Alex O'Connell and Jordan Tucker. I argued that they were desperate to inflate their numbers. Let's see if those fools do it again.
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It's a trend now. The New York Knicks will update Facebook and Instagram but not their website. They put up a pictorial grid of their Summer League roster like the Atlanta Hawks, but I like my version better.
Trevor Keels leads the way. He is the Knicks' only draft pick in 2022 or 2023, and was on a two-way contract last season. He played only 3 games for the Knicks, averaging under 3 minutes per, and spent most of his time with their G League affiliate (player page). In Westchester he averaged about 14 points, 3 rebounds, and 3 assists in about 32 minutes per game.
SI/FanNation has more details on the roster, and points out that undrafted rookie and two-way contract signee Jacob Toppin of Kentucky was supposed to be here, but is dealing with a minor injury. I'll take that at face value, though I can't help but notice that the Knicks just traded his brother Obi Toppin to the Pacers.
Keels is among the many players with pro experience on this roster. Newbies include Race Thompson of Indiana and Khalid Moore of nearby Fordham.
Trevor Keels leads the way. He is the Knicks' only draft pick in 2022 or 2023, and was on a two-way contract last season. He played only 3 games for the Knicks, averaging under 3 minutes per, and spent most of his time with their G League affiliate (player page). In Westchester he averaged about 14 points, 3 rebounds, and 3 assists in about 32 minutes per game.
SI/FanNation has more details on the roster, and points out that undrafted rookie and two-way contract signee Jacob Toppin of Kentucky was supposed to be here, but is dealing with a minor injury. I'll take that at face value, though I can't help but notice that the Knicks just traded his brother Obi Toppin to the Pacers.
Keels is among the many players with pro experience on this roster. Newbies include Race Thompson of Indiana and Khalid Moore of nearby Fordham.
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Interesting that the Knicks have Charlie Brown Jr. because as a long-time Knicks fan, I often feel like Charlie Brown with James Dolan playing the part of Lucy and pulling the ball away from me.