UAP & ET - Do you believe?

Phredd3 said:
I'm only going to run the ball. Then I don't have to worry about other dimensions.
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Speaking of other dimensions...

Regular matter is only 1/6 of the total matter with Dark Matter being the other 5/6 which only interacts with our world gravitationally.

My favorite scenario coming out of this tidbit is that our known universe is one of 6 coexistent universes occupying the same "space." When you tuck yourself into bed tonight give a thought to 5 other selves tucking in with you. :)







Note: There are other physics arguments saying that this ain't so. Just ignore those for now.
 
camion said:
Speaking of other dimensions...

Regular matter is only 1/6 of the total matter with Dark Matter being the other 5/6 which only interacts with our world gravitationally.

My favorite scenario coming out of this tidbit is that our known universe is one of 6 coexistent universes occupying the same "space." When you tuck yourself into bed tonight give a thought to 5 other selves tucking in with you. :)







Note: There are other physics arguments saying that this ain't so. Just ignore those for now.
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Dark matter is probably on the way out. There were some reports that came out a few months ago that had a few experts kind of saying, "Uh, well, I guess that's that." I'll see if I can dig up the specifics again.
 
BLPOG said:
Dark matter is probably on the way out. There were some reports that came out a few months ago that had a few experts kind of saying, "Uh, well, I guess that's that." I'll see if I can dig up the specifics again.
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My original post was strictly fanciful and I will defend its whimsy if not its actual physics. :)

Now to semi-serious physics. Both dark matter and dark energy have been placeholders used to label unexplained gravitational effects. Possible alternatives to dark matter are discussed in various places. Here is one article on the phys.org website.

At this time I don't believe there is wide agreement on how to fold these two effects into a coherent overall theory so I guess we will keep the labels for a while. One great thing for physicists about having these unknowns is that they create the opportunity for many scholarly papers and perhaps a few Nobel prizes.



Note: Though my original degree is in physics I haven't done any serious physics in several decades. In the '90s I was seduced and subverted by the siren song of computer science.
 
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camion said:
My original post was strictly fanciful and I will defend its whimsy if not its actual physics. :)

Now to semi-serious physics. Both dark matter and dark energy have been placeholders used to label unexplained gravitational effects. Possible alternatives to dark matter are discussed in various places. Here is one article on the phys.org website.

At this time I don't believe there is wide agreement on how to fold these two effects into a coherent overall theory so I guess we will keep the labels for a while. One great thing for physicists about having these unknowns is that they create the opportunity for many scholarly papers and perhaps a few Nobel prizes.



Note: Though my original degree is in physics I haven't done any serious physics in several decades. In the '90s I was seduced and subverted by the siren song of computer science.
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It would be a shame for any (more) Nobel Prizes to be awarded for Dark <anything> unless it makes a prediction that turns out to be true.

Case in point, String Theory Nobel Prize in 2004. Beautiful theory and math, predicted nothing. Just ask Sheldon Cooper.

Larry
DevilHorse
 
DevilHorse said:
It would be a shame for any (more) Nobel Prizes to be awarded for Dark <anything> unless it makes a prediction that turns out to be true.

Case in point, String Theory Nobel Prize in 2004. Beautiful theory and math, predicted nothing. Just ask Sheldon Cooper.

Larry
DevilHorse
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Hey, Don't go putting down Shamy!! Art imitating something.
Sheldon and Amy looked really good with their Nobel bling.
And Amy got to wear her tiara out in public!!

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OK, so you were thinking about AI, but perhaps it is the aliens that got there before us.

Avi Loeb has answers to some AI/Alien questions:
avi-loeb.medium.com

Q&A About Alien Intelligence

Below is a set of questions that I had received today from Maximiliano Fernández, a journalist for Infobae, the most read Spanish-speaking…
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Larry
DevilHorse
 
Made me think if this… From the book “100 QUOTATIONS TO MAKE YOU THINK” By Wolfgang Riebe

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7.) Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.
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BrummieDevil said:
Tell me more, I'm from Patterson-Gimlin country
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This was in Haywood county, NC. I lived midway up a mountain (Cold Mountain, same as the book/movie). My backyard was thousands of acres of wilderness, and I'd often spend my days hiking up to the closest ridge and back down. A friend joined me one day, it was mid-Spring. The hike up was uneventful as always, but on the way back, both of us stopped when we heard a very low but LOUD gutteral growl. We both looked around, and asked each other if we'd heard it. It seemed to come from no direction in particular. After a long pause, we continued on.

We made it only 5 feet before again, we were stopped. This time we didn't hear this, we FELT it. This long lasting growl punched right through both of our chests. You've never seen two people make it down a mountain in such record time as we both did. Picture that cheese rolling race in England, but we're flying through the mountain laurel, half on our feet, half on our butts as we made the quarter mile trip to my yard.

There are no animals in those mountains that could do this. The only one that could have a remote chance is a bear, after a talk to the locals (including the ones that hunt bear), that was ruled out.

My friend and I were pretty well shaken up the rest of the day, but it didn't keep me from hiking again, I was just maybe a little more mindful of my surroundings.
 
CameronBornAndBred said:
This was in Haywood county, NC. I lived midway up a mountain (Cold Mountain, same as the book/movie). My backyard was thousands of acres of wilderness, and I'd often spend my days hiking up to the closest ridge and back down. A friend joined me one day, it was mid-Spring. The hike up was uneventful as always, but on the way back, both of us stopped when we heard a very low but LOUD gutteral growl. We both looked around, and asked each other if we'd heard it. It seemed to come from no direction in particular. After a long pause, we continued on.

We made it only 5 feet before again, we were stopped. This time we didn't hear this, we FELT it. This long lasting growl punched right through both of our chests. You've never seen two people make it down a mountain in such record time as we both did. Picture that cheese rolling race in England, but we're flying through the mountain laurel, half on our feet, half on our butts as we made the quarter mile trip to my yard.

There are no animals in those mountains that could do this. The only one that could have a remote chance is a bear, after a talk to the locals (including the ones that hunt bear), that was ruled out.

My friend and I were pretty well shaken up the rest of the day, but it didn't keep me from hiking again, I was just maybe a little more mindful of my surroundings.
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I'd say it's too bad you didn't see it, but I'm guessing that could really mess with your head and would obviously be even more frightening.

I don't know enough about the sounds creatures makes to tell the difference, but I do know that I definitely trust people who have seen bears in the wild (hunters or not) when it comes to their bigfoot sightings. I've never had a bigfoot experience, but I've seen enough bears walking around as I grew up in a rural area surrounded by forests to know I'd be able to tell the difference between a standing bear vs. something like a primate.
 
CameronBornAndBred said:
This was in Haywood county, NC. I lived midway up a mountain (Cold Mountain, same as the book/movie). My backyard was thousands of acres of wilderness, and I'd often spend my days hiking up to the closest ridge and back down. A friend joined me one day, it was mid-Spring. The hike up was uneventful as always, but on the way back, both of us stopped when we heard a very low but LOUD gutteral growl. We both looked around, and asked each other if we'd heard it. It seemed to come from no direction in particular. After a long pause, we continued on.

We made it only 5 feet before again, we were stopped. This time we didn't hear this, we FELT it. This long lasting growl punched right through both of our chests. You've never seen two people make it down a mountain in such record time as we both did. Picture that cheese rolling race in England, but we're flying through the mountain laurel, half on our feet, half on our butts as we made the quarter mile trip to my yard.

There are no animals in those mountains that could do this. The only one that could have a remote chance is a bear, after a talk to the locals (including the ones that hunt bear), that was ruled out.

My friend and I were pretty well shaken up the rest of the day, but it didn't keep me from hiking again, I was just maybe a little more mindful of my surroundings.
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I’ve actually been to a Bigfoot event. It was called Dave’s Bigfoot Festival. They had speakers and displays. The most interesting part to me was the open mic portion. They let people come up and share their personal Bigfoot experiences. This was in northern Utah and all the stories were local so describing places I knew. I was struck by just how many people got up there and had had experiences. Dozens.
 
BrummieDevil said:
I'd say it's too bad you didn't see it, but I'm guessing that could really mess with your head and would obviously be even more frightening.

I don't know enough about the sounds creatures makes to tell the difference, but I do know that I definitely trust people who have seen bears in the wild (hunters or not) when it comes to their bigfoot sightings. I've never had a bigfoot experience, but I've seen enough bears walking around as I grew up in a rural area surrounded by forests to know I'd be able to tell the difference between a standing bear vs. something like a primate.
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That was very unnerving. It felt like we were right on top of it (or under it). We looked around lots right after hearing the first sound, because whatever had made it did so in a threatening manner. We obviously walked those 5 feet towards it, instead of the direction it rather we had gone, and it let us know in a big way. To not see it, but to know that whatever it was had to be very big was crazy.

We both knew there was really only one thing that could make that noise. We didn't talk about it right away, we were still getting our nerves back, but after a while we both said "there's a sasquatch on this mountain". I lived there for 5 more years, and never had another experience like it.
 
bundabergdevil said:
I’ve actually been to a Bigfoot event. It was called Dave’s Bigfoot Festival. They had speakers and displays. The most interesting part to me was the open mic portion. They let people come up and share their personal Bigfoot experiences. This was in northern Utah and all the stories were local so describing places I knew. I was struck by just how many people got up there and had had experiences. Dozens.
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I love the "town hall" portion of the finding bigfoot show. I had actually filed our experience with the BFRO back before that show existed, and it was only while doing some research a couple days afterwards that I learned that BFRO was a thing. I posted my report on a query they had, using my 56K modem, since this was back in the dial up days.

Wife and I enjoy the FB show, but our fav is "Expedition Bigfoot". Similar premise, but they have cooler toys and have caught some very intriguing footage. (Unlike FB, as those folks never caught nuthin')
 
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