Missing most of last season due to injury may be a factor.
Tyrese to the Cleveland Cavaliers
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cbarry
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The only thing Tyrese missed most of last season was free throws! Lol. Too soon?
Went back and watched the ACC Semifinal that we were very fortunate to win. Tyrese missed a front end of a 1-1 (long, as is often the case with him) when we were up 1 with under 30 sec. Almost cost us the game.
Oops. Misspoke. Was referring to Coward's injury for some reason.
brevity
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Tyrese Proctor was taken with pick #49, and has a deal in place with the Cleveland Cavaliers, according to Jonathan Givony.
brevity
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Two videos posted by the Cleveland Cavaliers. The first video is the segment of the NBA Draft broadcast where they discuss Tyrese Proctor and the unusual circumstances of the #49 pick.
Malika Andrews: "The Cleveland Cavaliers, they made their selection. They really wanted to get Tyrese Proctor. I am told, Jonathan, that he will have a spot on this roster next year."
Jonathan Givony: "That's correct, Malika. This is a spot that every agent was fighting for because it's going to be a roster spot. Every other pick here [this late in the draft] is going to be either a two-way or a stash."
The second video features Cavs GM Mike Gansey answering media questions after the second round, in which the team drafted Tyrese Proctor at #49 and Saliou Niang at #58.
Question: "With Proctor, as you look at his skill set, what skills stand out to you that are NBA-ready coming out of Duke?"
Mike Gansey: "Obviously, his shooting piece. He can really shoot. This year was a career high 40 percent. You can't have enough ball handlers. He can play on and off the ball, which is attractive. You can run him off screens, he can play pick-and-roll, he can get in the paint, he's got a good midrange game, he makes plays for others, and he's 6-5, and he's 21 too. He came over [to Duke] a year earlier, probably, than he should have, and was there three years, but we just like his versatility... good size, where you can play him at the 2 some.
His body's gotten a lot better since the end of the season. We ended up seeing him at his pro day in California in May, and I think he put on about 10-11 pounds, so he's definitely worked on his body, and just the shooting piece really attracted us, and his youth. He's obviously a great kid and a worker, and we're excited to have him."
Question: "When it comes to Proctor, you giving him a multi-year deal right off the rip, as opposed to a two-way or something along those lines -- what was the reasoning behind that, and what does that say about how you view his potential for making an immediate impact on this team?"
Mike Gansey: "We had him almost as a first round grade, so for him to fall to 49 was something we were very excited about."
Malika Andrews: "The Cleveland Cavaliers, they made their selection. They really wanted to get Tyrese Proctor. I am told, Jonathan, that he will have a spot on this roster next year."
Jonathan Givony: "That's correct, Malika. This is a spot that every agent was fighting for because it's going to be a roster spot. Every other pick here [this late in the draft] is going to be either a two-way or a stash."
The second video features Cavs GM Mike Gansey answering media questions after the second round, in which the team drafted Tyrese Proctor at #49 and Saliou Niang at #58.
Question: "With Proctor, as you look at his skill set, what skills stand out to you that are NBA-ready coming out of Duke?"
Mike Gansey: "Obviously, his shooting piece. He can really shoot. This year was a career high 40 percent. You can't have enough ball handlers. He can play on and off the ball, which is attractive. You can run him off screens, he can play pick-and-roll, he can get in the paint, he's got a good midrange game, he makes plays for others, and he's 6-5, and he's 21 too. He came over [to Duke] a year earlier, probably, than he should have, and was there three years, but we just like his versatility... good size, where you can play him at the 2 some.
His body's gotten a lot better since the end of the season. We ended up seeing him at his pro day in California in May, and I think he put on about 10-11 pounds, so he's definitely worked on his body, and just the shooting piece really attracted us, and his youth. He's obviously a great kid and a worker, and we're excited to have him."
Question: "When it comes to Proctor, you giving him a multi-year deal right off the rip, as opposed to a two-way or something along those lines -- what was the reasoning behind that, and what does that say about how you view his potential for making an immediate impact on this team?"
Mike Gansey: "We had him almost as a first round grade, so for him to fall to 49 was something we were very excited about."
Furniture
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It’s really intriguing that Proctor fell so much and yet ended up in what seems to be a really good situation. The Cavs wanted him, they had a spot in the roster and he will get a multi year deal. I am really happy for him but for the life of me I just don’t get it. What if he is taken a few spots earlier which in theory should be better but only gets a two way contract? Luck or what?
CrazyNotCrazie
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Agree - the situation was very counter-intuitive to me. During the broadcast Myers and Marks were talking about how the second round is very heavily brokered by agents and is also dependent on roster and cap availability. So a team picking 40 might have no room on its roster and cap so might not take the "best available" because they have nothing to do with them. Also, I think some agents will say "my guy does not want to be on your team so do not take him if you ever want to do business with me again" so it is not worth angering the agent to take someone in the second round.
nmduke2001
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Lonzo Ball traded to Cavs. More crowded backcourt for Tyrese to navigate. Not sure what it means in terms of the roster. As mentioned, the situation was good for Tyrese because it was an NBA roster spot and not a two way contract.
MrJeffSchwartz0
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One of the folks quoted above is a friend of mine. Ty Jerome and Sam Merrill have an open door to walk out of from what was said. Only one will be back. Garland, Mitchell, Porter Jr, Proctor, Ball all 5 will play
brevity
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Cleveland traded for Lonzo Ball because Darius Garland was feeling lonely as an injured reserve, and Lonzo promised to visit him often.
I may be the rare person who dislikes Lonzo and LaMelo Ball strictly on their own merits, rather than because of their outspoken father. (As I've said before, Lavar Ball doesn't bother me. I lack the genetic makeup to care about what he says or does.)
According to Sports Reference, of the players in the 2017 NBA Draft, Lonzo is tied for 5th in minutes per game, but is 16th in actual minutes played and 22nd in games played. So he's high usage when he's healthy, and that isn't often. Lonzo was the #2 pick, and he's played almost 300 fewer games than #3 pick Jayson Tatum. With his injury, Tatum is about to give Lonzo a big opportunity to start catching up, but we'll see if that actually happens. (To his credit, I guess, Lonzo has played more career games than #1 pick Markelle Fultz.)
mph
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Don’t see any way that take’s Tyrese’s roster spot. The Cavs only had 10 players under contract before the Ball trade. By rule, they must carry 14. Also, the Cavs are unlikely to renege on a promised roster spot to a 2nd round draft pick. They’d create a serious problem for themselves if agents couldn’t trust their word.
As far as Ball is concerned, when he’s healthy he’s a good defender and solid passer and rebounder. But, he’s a sub 40% shooter from the field, 36% from 3, and sub 60% from the line. If Tyrese can’t earn playing time against Ball, he’d probably struggle to earn time other places. If he shoots it well and plays defense, he should earn minutes in Cleveland.
Furniture
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After listening to Mike Gansey’s interview, my sum up of the Cavs reasoning for getting Proctor is simple.
Shoots 40%, good defender and went to Duke…..No brainer.
MrJeffSchwartz0
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They did re-up Merrill today and are letting Jerome find the open market https://bsky.app/profile/shamsbot.bsky.social/post/3lsork76oxs22
MChambers
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Merrill was the 60th (last) pick in the 2020 draft. Let's hope Tyrese has similar success.
MrJeffSchwartz0
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Merrill is far more one dimensional than Tyrese. I’d be very disappointed if that’s all Tyrese ends up being. He is better than that.
MChambers
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Maybe so, but he's five years into an NBA career and just signed a four year contract. I hope Tyrese plays that many years in the NBA.
The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.
You can be somewhat one dimensional in the NBA and hang around if your one dimension is good enough. Merrill is a career 39% three point shooter on decent volume.
Proctor could get there but he’ll have to prove it. Being a somewhat better defender or passer won’t matter much if he’s doesn’t shoot as well.
Unfortunately, the thing that now comes to mind when I think of Tyrese Proctor is how badly we needed him in the Houston game and how poorly he played.
