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Billy Dat said:
Someone named Chris Graham firing double barrels back at Forde, including some real cheap-shots at Forde's daughter, Brooke, the Olympic swimmer, who, by the way, went to Stanford.
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UVA Basketball: ‘Towering Fraud’ Pat Forde gets one last lick in at Tony Bennett

Dean Smith retired on Oct. 9, 1997, to engineer giving the UNC job to Bill Guthridge, and SI.com columnist Pat Forde had no issue.
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Spicy words from whoever Chris Graham is. If winning an Olympic medal and swimming at Stanford makes you a “hack swimmer” I am curious how this writer stacks up in the hack awards?
 
cato said:
Spicy words from whoever Chris Graham is. If winning an Olympic medal and swimming at Stanford makes you a “hack swimmer” I am curious how this writer stacks up in the hack awards?
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Wow is that article garbage! That’s written like a guy doing a school paper without reading the assignment an hour before it is due.
 
All I know is that using ALL CAPS to repeat an argument you've been making for 5 days in a row is super effective at winning an argument online. Glad I logged off over the weekend.
 
HereBeforeCoachK said:
With due respect that's an arrogant take. Yes he could do it for one more season. He "could do it" for five more seasons probably. That is NOT THE STANDARD. He said, and we should take him at his word, that he was no longer the right person to coach UVa. If you don't think you are THE MAN to coach a team, you should not coach the team. If you've ever coached, you understand that. Coaching at this level is not about "trying hard" or even "giving it your all" - if you don't believe with a passion that the job should be yours.....you cannot bring to it what it requires.

Also, this is all very disrespectful of the current UVa staff and players......like we're trying to protect all of them from the life changing horror of Bennett retiring. Do we hear ourselves???
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He was no longer the right person because he didn’t want to do it anymore. Let’s just make that clear as day. It’s not like he is having some mental breakdown and can’t mentally do it. He is just choosing not to, which is fine, but it doesn’t mean people can’t judge you for your actions. I judged someone the other day because they put hot sauce and ketchup on a hotdog.
 
I’ve stated my position earlier that I have no problem with TB’s actions, and I won’t repeat myself. But I want to draw a similarity between Tony Bennett and Bartleby, in Melville’s “Bartleby the Scrivener”. Like Bartleby, Tony has said “ I prefer not to” and has been met with some degree of moral condemnation. Melville’s story has been interpreted in a certain way that seems to also fit the current situation. One can interpret both Bartleby and Tony as being judged in the context of capitalism and one’s duty to feed the engine of material wealth and success. This is interesting because Tony is explicitly saying that he is unhappy with the materialist capitalist turn in modern collegiate sports, and away from his values of community, team, and, one could say from his press conference, his Christian values. I like to think of Tony as a modern-day Bartleby, a protestor against the heartless capitalist machine.

Another interpretation is that Bartleby was Melville’s avatar, and that he was depressed. Hopefully that is not true for Tony, and hopefully he avoids Bartleby’s fate.
 
OldPhiKap said:
I’m not sure that you win friends and influence neighbors by calling them ignorant. Even if done “with due respect.”

Just sayin’.

(and I agree with Phredd3, on behalf of the ignorants)
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um, suggesting that someone made an arrogant take is nothing like suggesting that the person is ignorant. Totally different concepts.....not even close....I never called anyone ignorant. I never called anyone arrogant....I said a certain "take" was an arrogant take. It was arrogant in that it presumed to be offended on the part of others without knowing the inside story. This accusation towards me is an absurd conflation. Seriously awful snafu...and then multiplied by snark.
 
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FosterCoachK82 said:
I’ve stated my position earlier that I have no problem with TB’s actions, and I won’t repeat myself. But I want to draw a similarity between Tony Bennett and Bartleby, in Melville’s “Bartleby the Scrivener”. Like Bartleby, Tony has said “ I prefer not to” and has been met with some degree of moral condemnation. Melville’s story has been interpreted in a certain way that seems to also fit the current situation. One can interpret both Bartleby and Tony as being judged in the context of capitalism and one’s duty to feed the engine of material wealth and success. This is interesting because Tony is explicitly saying that he is unhappy with the materialist capitalist turn in modern collegiate sports, and away from his values of community, team, and, one could say from his press conference, his Christian values. I like to think of Tony as a modern-day Bartleby, a protestor against the heartless capitalist machine.

Another interpretation is that Bartleby was Melville’s avatar, and that he was depressed. Hopefully that is not true for Tony, and hopefully he avoids Bartleby’s fate.
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Only at DBR would this connection be made. Excellent work.

Are you going to link other basketball figures to Melville characters? Is Bobby Knight Ahab.
 
HereBeforeCoachK said:
um, suggesting that someone made an arrogant take is nothing like suggesting that the person is ignorant. Totally different concepts.....not even close....I never called anyone ignorant. I never called anyone arrogant....I said a certain "take" was an arrogant take. This is absurd conflation. Seriously awful snafu...and then multiplied by snark.
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so . . . Am I arrogant, ignorant, or absurd?

Or is it that I just am saying something in an arrogant, ignorant, or absurd fashion?

Thanks for the lesson in advance.
 
FosterCoachK82 said:
I’ve stated my position earlier that I have no problem with TB’s actions, and I won’t repeat myself. But I want to draw a similarity between Tony Bennett and Bartleby, in Melville’s “Bartleby the Scrivener”. Like Bartleby, Tony has said “ I prefer not to” and has been met with some degree of moral condemnation. Melville’s story has been interpreted in a certain way that seems to also fit the current situation. One can interpret both Bartleby and Tony as being judged in the context of capitalism and one’s duty to feed the engine of material wealth and success. This is interesting because Tony is explicitly saying that he is unhappy with the materialist capitalist turn in modern collegiate sports, and away from his values of community, team, and, one could say from his press conference, his Christian values. I like to think of Tony as a modern-day Bartleby, a protestor against the heartless capitalist machine.

Another interpretation is that Bartleby was Melville’s avatar, and that he was depressed. Hopefully that is not true for Tony, and hopefully he avoids Bartleby’s fate.
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This is why DBR exists.
 
OldPhiKap said:
so . . . Am I arrogant, ignorant, or absurd? Help me understand.
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Let me help you out here. First, those words mean three very different things. Very different concepts. Second, the concept of calling a single statement either arrogant, ignorant, or absurd, is entirely different than calling a person either arrogant, ignorant or absurd in general. Really,, concepts here are rather pedestrian. So I have never called you or anyone here any of these things in general.

However, there is the concept of obtuse to consider....
 
HereBeforeCoachK said:
Let me help you out here. First, those words mean three very different things. Very different concepts. Second, the concept of calling a single statement either arrogant, ignorant, or absurd, is entirely different than calling a person either arrogant, ignorant or absurd in general. Really,, concepts here are rather pedestrian. So I have never called you or anyone here any of these things in general.

However, there is the concept of obtuse to consider....
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Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.
 
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