The Life of Flagg

It would not surprise me if a top draft pick looks at what teams have the top draft picks and decides whether to go pro based on where they want to play professionally. Back in the 1980's Danny Ferry went to play in Europe because he did not want to get drafted by the Clippers (I believe). So imagine a top college player not liking who has the top draft picks and saying...thanks let me stay in college for a year until I have better options.
I think the deadline for declaring for the draft is before the lottery, so players don't get to know who might draft them. I don't know if that is part of the NBA labor agreement or not. If not, it might be subject to legal challenge, but it's hard to see anyone going to that trouble.
 
I think the deadline for declaring for the draft is before the lottery, so players don't get to know who might draft them. I don't know if that is part of the NBA labor agreement or not. If not, it might be subject to legal challenge, but it's hard to see anyone going to that trouble.
I think NBA GMs can get very creative. Let’s say a player we will call CF wants to play for a team we will call BC. The BC GM tells CF to stay at a school we will call DU for another year while the GM makes some deals contingent upon teams drafting CF and trading him to BC.

CF is happy to stay at DU while the BC GM takes care of all of the deals.

Of course this is all hypothetical but what is new in the world of NIL is CF is getting paid and is content waiting. 😉
 
I think NBA GMs can get very creative. Let’s say a player we will call CF wants to play for a team we will call BC. The BC GM tells CF to stay at a school we will call DU for another year while the GM makes some deals contingent upon teams drafting CF and trading him to BC.

CF is happy to stay at DU while the BC GM takes care of all of the deals.

Of course this is all hypothetical but what is new in the world of NIL is CF is getting paid and is content waiting. 😉
I don't purport to know the NBA tampering rules but I cannot help but such actions you describe would result in severe problems for BC. I also imagine that other teams would not look favorably at CF either.
 
All of this changes the past discussion we have had on this board about staying in school because of academics or atmosphere versus getting life changing money. NIL now allows players the option of "all of the above".

It would not surprise me if a top draft pick looks at what teams have the top draft picks and decides whether to go pro based on where they want to play professionally. Back in the 1980's Danny Ferry went to play in Europe because he did not want to get drafted by the Clippers (I believe). So imagine a top college player not liking who has the top draft picks and saying...thanks let me stay in college for a year until I have better options.

The generational money still won't come until that second contract.

That said, the second contract doesn't arrive for everyone. Parker and Okafor went in the top three picks, but at the time they left, I did not think lengthy pro careers for either one were certain. The old model was certainly "go if you are a lottery pick".

I wonder if there is a new model, for certain players, that is to stick around for four years of college endorsements, then go pro and hope you get that second contract, but if not you maximized your earnings: four years of college endorsements + one rookie contract.

That said, guys can slip in the draft the longer they stay in school to have their games picked apart.

I think the deadline for declaring for the draft is before the lottery, so players don't get to know who might draft them. I don't know if that is part of the NBA labor agreement or not. If not, it might be subject to legal challenge, but it's hard to see anyone going to that trouble.

Yeah, but you're still gonna have a pretty good idea of the lottery order, unless something crazy happens with the ping pong balls.
 
Endorsement money is going to be so much higher in the pros. NIL can't keep up for lottery pick types. One reason NIL for college is a thing is that companies want to get their hands on a good property early, while the entry fee is still low. But making it in the pros is money college can't hope to compete with. It can work for the lower- or even middle-tier guys. For the stars, the best bet is always going to be to get there as soon as you can.
 
I think NBA GMs can get very creative. Let’s say a player we will call CF wants to play for a team we will call BC. The BC GM tells CF to stay at a school we will call DU for another year while the GM makes some deals contingent upon teams drafting CF and trading him to BC.

CF is happy to stay at DU while the BC GM takes care of all of the deals.

Of course this is all hypothetical but what is new in the world of NIL is CF is getting paid and is content waiting. 😉
But all this would still hinge on the "other team" winning the lottery. And it would be well assured that whoever wins the lottery would be drafting CF. So BC would basically just be trading straight-up for CF with whoever won the lottery... which they could have done the previous year.
 
Well, I highly doubt a 2nd yr of Flagg is in the cards.
However, IF he IS DETERMINED to play a second yr, he should do it at Duke.
It certainly would be a way to avoid being drafted by a horrible organization.

The most surprising tid-bit was no Girl Friends... that was a large reason to GO to college in the 1st place.
Of course youthful relationships have a horrible record of longevity.. but that's not the point. Practice makes perfect.
 
Well, I highly doubt a 2nd yr of Flagg is in the cards.
However, IF he IS DETERMINED to play a second yr, he should do it at Duke.
It certainly would be a way to avoid being drafted by a horrible organization.

The most surprising tid-bit was no Girl Friends... that was a large reason to GO to college in the 1st place.
Of course youthful relationships have a horrible record of longevity.. but that's not the point. Practice makes perfect.
It can also make babies. :p
 
Yeah, I’m going to hope that Kelly meant something a little more subtle than “it’s safe to not have any feelings.” Better to have loved and lost…. And he’s 18. What’s the half-life on 18 year old relationships??
It can also make babies. :p
Exactly. If I was Kelly I'd be much more worried some young lady might find a way to keep Cooper, and his money, around for at least 18 years than my son's ability to bounce back from a breakup.
 
It can also make babies. :p
They have ways to prevent such things…

I’d be surprised if there wasn’t some basic guidance given to ALL high level athletes.

When I was in Savannah for the 96 Olympics (venue for water events) I worked in reasonably close proximity to the Olympic Village. I learned that condoms were part of the “gift bag” for every athlete.

Trojan or whomever gifted them is missing a fantastic ad spot “if it’s good enough for these guys, we got you covered”.

In that moment I realized I less interested in the events and results and that I more wanted to see a version of “Blind Date” from within the Olympic village.
 
The NBA is a different game. It is unwatchable. If you think he’d be bored with another year in college watch him late in the season next year.
The NBA blows college ball out of the water and it’s not close. Even watching isn’t bad, people are just tired of threes which will probably be corrected at some point. Heck the NBA today could have a case for being better than anytime prior to 2010. The talent level is so high now that you can turn on almost any game and be entertained whereas back in the day there was 4-5 good teams and maybe 2-3 watchable ones after that. Now I’d say 20+ teams are watchable nightly and we have 6-8 great teams. Guys today are so much better than they used to be.
 
I don't think Cooper stays for a 2nd year... BUT... didn't we all say that about Filipowski? He was projecting in many mock drafts as a 1st round pick and it shocked us all when he decided to come back for a second year. I get it though, they are two completely different talents, and it's arguable that Filipowski didn't do himself any favors by staying a second year. BUT AGAIN, "1 in a million... so, you're saying there's a chance." A boy can dream.
 
It's a nice fantasy, BUT Coop ain't coming back. I'd say there is a 0.000000000000000000000000000001% chance he returns to Durham next season. It reminds me of a few years ago when some people on this board had the fantasy that Arch Manning might come play football at Duke.
 
It's a nice fantasy, BUT Coop ain't coming back. I'd say there is a 0.000000000000000000000000000001% chance he returns to Durham next season. It reminds me of a few years ago when some people on this board had the fantasy that Arch Manning might come play football at Duke.
You are short a few 0's.
 
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