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bundabergdevil said:
I found an eastern box turtle taking shade u see my car over the weekend.
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Ok. This was meant for LTE.


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Kennedy dismisses entire US CDC vaccine panel, replacing all 17 members

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has fired all members sitting on a U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention panel of vaccine experts and is reconstituting the committee, his department said on Monday. Kennedy removed all 17 members of the Advisory Committee...
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bundabergdevil said:
Ok. This was meant for LTE.


Sorry.



This is for this thread.


www.yahoo.com

Kennedy dismisses entire US CDC vaccine panel, replacing all 17 members

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has fired all members sitting on a U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention panel of vaccine experts and is reconstituting the committee, his department said on Monday. Kennedy removed all 17 members of the Advisory Committee...
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Because the scientists on that panel had conflicts of interest…except, of course, they didn’t. He had also promised to leave the panel alone.
 
“Politicized mistrust in vaccines has grown. Far more Republicans said they trust Kennedy to provide reliable information on vaccines than their local health department or the CDC in a recent KFF poll: 73% versus about half.” (Source)

Hey, but at least we can trust that the new 17 appointees won’t have COI.

This thread gave LTE a run for its money. The next pandemic might be too lethal (and the US will be too ill-prepared) to mount a similar challenge. Per the end of the article linked above, “Should the bird flu become a pandemic in the next few years, Rasmussen said, “we will be screwed on multiple levels.”
 
brickey said:
“Politicized mistrust in vaccines has grown. Far more Republicans said they trust Kennedy to provide reliable information on vaccines than their local health department or the CDC in a recent KFF poll: 73% versus about half.” (Source)

Hey, but at least we can trust that the new 17 appointees won’t have COI.

This thread gave LTE a run for its money. The next pandemic might be too lethal (and the US will be too ill-prepared) to mount a similar challenge. Per the end of the article linked above, “Should the bird flu become a pandemic in the next few years, Rasmussen said, “we will be screwed on multiple levels.”
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No species on Earth has the intelligence of Humanity, but we'll be the first to go extinct due to stupidity.
 
brickey said:
“Politicized mistrust in vaccines has grown. Far more Republicans said they trust Kennedy to provide reliable information on vaccines than their local health department or the CDC in a recent KFF poll: 73% versus about half.” (Source)

Hey, but at least we can trust that the new 17 appointees won’t have COI.

This thread gave LTE a run for its money. The next pandemic might be too lethal (and the US will be too ill-prepared) to mount a similar challenge. Per the end of the article linked above, “Should the bird flu become a pandemic in the next few years, Rasmussen said, “we will be screwed on multiple levels.”
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Kennedy announced 8 new members of the committee. They are extremely anti-vax. https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/ot...panel-after-firing-all-17-members/ar-AA1GxteO
 
We are fragged. (The wankerizer never was update with 00s sci-fi curses) A little bit more on the nutters.

arstechnica.com

RFK Jr. announces 8 appointees to CDC vaccine panel—they’re not good

Robert Malone and Martin Kulldorff are two of the most concerning picks.
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However, the list of today's appointees includes Robert Malone, who falsely claims to have invented mRNA vaccines and has spent the past several years spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories about them.
Speaking at an anti-vaccine rally in 2022, Malone spread dangerous falsehoods about mRNA COVID-19 vaccines: "These genetic vaccines can damage your children. They may damage their brains, their heart, their immune system and their ability to have children in the future. Many of these damages cannot be repaired."

Malone aligned with the anti-vaccine crowd during the pandemic and has become a mainstay in conspiratorial circles and an ally to Kennedy. He has claimed that vaccines cause a "form of AIDS," amid other nonsense. He has also meddled with responses to the measles outbreak that erupted in West Texas in January. In April, Malone was the first to publicize news that a second child had died from the highly infectious and serious infection, but he did so to falsely claim that measles wasn't the cause and spread other dangerous misinformation.
In a newsletter post earlier this week, Malone proclaimed: "Some people still believe that the term anti-vaxxer is a pejorative. I do not—I view it as high praise."
Malone is just one of the eight names released today. Another is Martin Kulldorff, one of the co-authors of the widely criticized Great Barrington Declaration, which called for letting COVID-19 spread largely unabated. Health experts called it "unethical."
Vicky Pebsworth is also on the list, as well as on the board of the National Vaccine Information Center, one of the nation’s oldest anti-vaccine groups that promotes the false claim that vaccines cause autism.
Kennedy also appointed Retsef Levi, who has penned articles alleging dangers of COVID-19 vaccines, including a flawed 2022 article that was later corrected and an unpublished articleco-authored with COVID-contrarian and Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo.
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When I said (tongue-in-cheek) “at least there won’t be COI with the new panel [SIC],” I never fathomed we’d see such brazen idiocy that my statement would prove accurate.

This might be one of the most dispiriting post-Covid events (among many).
 
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Not all of them. He left one former member on the committee, a colleague of mine that I know personally, who is a Peds ID doc at Dartmouth.
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No offensive to your colleague doc but:

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RFK announces new ACIP members, including vaccine critics

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His op-ed in the WSJ
The Case Against Masks for Children It’s abusive to force kids who struggle with them to sacrifice for the sake of unvaccinated adults.

Just from last month.
US drops COVID vaccine recommendation for healthy kids, pregnant women

Dr. Cody Meissner, professor of pediatrics at Dartmouth who co-wrote an editorial with Makary during the COVID pandemic against masks for children, said he agreed with the decision.
He said he felt the U.S. had been overemphasizing the importance of the COVID vaccine for young children and pregnant women, and that previous recommendations were based on politics, adding that the severity of the illness generated by the virus seems to have lessened over time in young children.
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I'm not saying he is a vaccine skeptic just that he leans away from the CDC toward RFK Jr. I'm guess this is why he was included (His second time on the panel). All most every single appointee (not all) has at least one strong opinion that goes against current medical norms and science. I'm willing to listen to why he would be against masks (for kids) and COVID vaccines for kids and pregnant women. Yes kids are less likely to have severe repercussions and reactions so I might see that inclination but he seems more in the RFK camp and out. And to be clear his POV is different just for kids not adults. For adults he's inline with medical norms.
 
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Don't get me wrong. I never liked the guy. He always struck me as an arrogant, overconfident type. The several times that I sat on a panel with him, we hardly ever agreed on anything.

He has some slightly divergent views, but the he is not an anti-vaxxer.
 
rsvman said:
He has some slightly divergent views, but the he is not an anti-vaxxer.
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Technically, not himself, no, but he's perfectly willing to stoke anti-vaxxer fires, and that's unacceptable. In his current position, that makes him an anti-vaxxer for all practical purposes, and I therefore have no problems whatsoever discussing him in those terms. Individual belief is less important in a public official than actual behavior.
 
Your Local Epidemiologist has a good post about what to expect at next week’s vaccine advisory committee meeting. A vote on the fall COVID vax is not supposed to be on the agenda, but you never know, especially with a bunch of anti-vax, uh, people. https://yourlocalepidemiologist.sub...e&r=3pm6h&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

“I’d say grab your popcorn—if this meeting didn’t have such serious implications for you, your family, or your patients’ health. There are more unknowns than answers, and the next few weeks may get (even more) confusing. However, many in public health are already hard at work ensuring you have access to evidence-informed information and care.”
 
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