NCAA Men's D1 General Discussion

Billy Dat said:
I am curious as to why? We get great games and the players actually get to share in the profits instead of the schools or third parties getting it all. I, too, am sad that events like Maui are losing their place in the new world but teams used to lose money to go to Maui, and some entity, no that players nor the schools, was making that money. If it's just a general malaise about the state of modern college sports, I can't help you there. For all the ills, I like that these kids are getting paid.

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I am all for the kids getting a share of the wealth ... I was a proponent of that well before it happened. I am appalled at the manner in which the money is being apportioned, and this tournament revels in flaunting that. And, to be honest, it sickens me to see people here bowing to the shrine of collegiate professional sports.
 
Dr. Maturin said:
Houston is struggling. They struggled to put away Towson, then had to escape against Auburn. Last night, they probably should have lost by double digits. Syracuse was a unfathomable 12/29 from the FT line and also 8/31 from 3.
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That was the most amazing thing to me about the game.

The free throw line (41.3%) defended the Orange far better than Houston's vaunted defense (49.2% effective field goal) did.

Note that metrics such as Bart Torvik's give Houston's defense credit for holding Syracuse to 41.3% shooting from the free throw line. Even after last night's game, Houston's defense is still ranked number one by a huge margin in Torvik's metrics, and Houston's adjusted defensive efficiency for just the game last night was 91.0, which would stand as the best in the NCAA in the current estimation of Torvik's algorithm. Note that this was a game in which Syracuse hit 18-25 shots at the rim!
 
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stickdog said:
That was the most amazing thing to me about the game.

The free throw line (41.3%) defended the Orange far better than Houston's vaunted defense (49.2% effective field goal) did.

Note that metrics such as Bart Torvik's give Houston's defense credit for holding Syracuse to 41.3% shooing from the free throw line. Even after last night's game, Houston's defense is still ranked number one by a huge margin in Torvik's metrics, and Houston's adjusted defensive efficiency for just the game last night was 91.0, which would stand as the best in the NCAA in the current estimation of Torvik's algorithm. Note that this was a game in which Syracuse hit 18-25 shots at the rim!
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Yeah, Houston allowed basically 1 point per possession to a Syracuse team who was playing without its leading scorer and had a horrendous shooting night. It was a bad defensive showing.
 
75Crazie said:
I am all for the kids getting a share of the wealth ... I was a proponent of that well before it happened. I am appalled at the manner in which the money is being apportioned, and this tournament revels in flaunting that. And, to be honest, it sickens me to see people here bowing to the shrine of collegiate professional sports.
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I promise I am not trying to bait you here, I am genuinely curious as to what specifically about this tournament appalls you and what about "collegiate professional sports" sickens you?

I am asking because there are aspects to the current environment I don't like, namely the 100% unlimited free agency aspect that makes roster management such a grind. But, I am wondering if you are nostalgic for an era that you felt was more pure, as if true amateurism and the concept of a true student/athlete was an ideal that has only recently vanished?
 
Billy Dat said:
I promise I am not trying to bait you here, I am genuinely curious as to what specifically about this tournament appalls you and what about "collegiate professional sports" sickens you?

I am asking because there are aspects to the current environment I don't like, namely the 100% unlimited free agency aspect that makes roster management such a grind. But, I am wondering if you are nostalgic for an era that you felt was more pure, as if true amateurism and the concept of a true student/athlete was an ideal that has only recently vanished?
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Since you are genuinely curious, I'll respond again, but I suspect further discussion should occur on some other thread or forum. I agree that "true amateurism" is long gone, and the "student/athlete" is a vanishing breed at the higher levels. But to me, the current NIL and portal system is pretty much nothing more than a contemptuous and lingering middle finger to those ideals. And yet, those same ideals are still trumpeted vociferously by the NCAA (and, to a lesser degree, some institutions of learning). The hypocrisy of that, to me, is legendary.
 
75Crazie said:
Since you are genuinely curious, I'll respond again, but I suspect further discussion should occur on some other thread or forum. I agree that "true amateurism" is long gone, and the "student/athlete" is a vanishing breed at the higher levels. But to me, the current NIL and portal system is pretty much nothing more than a contemptuous and lingering middle finger to those ideals. And yet, those same ideals are still trumpeted vociferously by the NCAA (and, to a lesser degree, some institutions of learning). The hypocrisy of that, to me, is legendary.
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I appreciate the response.
 
I stayed up for Arizona State vs. Texas... It was nice to see Bobby get this dramatic win. They spoke about his attachment to this year's squad and also said that this is a make or break year for Bobby and his staff. He is at the end of a two year extension that he signed in 2024. The Sun Devils' top scorer, Odum, hit the game winning 3 to cap off a 33 point performance.
 
Tennessee gets to try to avenge the blowout to Houston in last year’s Elite Eight. This will be a physical matchup that the refs could really influence.
 
75Crazie said:
Since you are genuinely curious, I'll respond again, but I suspect further discussion should occur on some other thread or forum. I agree that "true amateurism" is long gone, and the "student/athlete" is a vanishing breed at the higher levels. But to me, the current NIL and portal system is pretty much nothing more than a contemptuous and lingering middle finger to those ideals. And yet, those same ideals are still trumpeted vociferously by the NCAA (and, to a lesser degree, some institutions of learning). The hypocrisy of that, to me, is legendary.
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Don't forget that the vast vast majority of collegiate athletes are student athletes. It's only really been corrupted for big football and big basketball - and only for those because they are so popular with fans.
 
SkyBrickey said:
Don't forget that the vast vast majority of collegiate athletes are student athletes. It's only really been corrupted for big football and big basketball - and only for those because they are so popular with fans.
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Obviously you are not speaking about unCheat.
 
subzero02 said:
I stayed up for Arizona State vs. Texas... It was nice to see Bobby get this dramatic win. They spoke about his attachment to this year's squad and also said that this is a make or break year for Bobby and his staff. He is at the end of a two year extension that he signed in 2024. The Sun Devils' top scorer, Odum, hit the game winning 3 to cap off a 33 point performance.
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I haven't gotten to check out any of their games yet but I'm so thrilled ASU is doing so well so far. Bobby will always be my favorite Duke player so I've followed the entirety of his coaching career.
 
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