Thibs sealed his fate by his unwillingness to develop depth and, relatedly, burn out our starters. I am sure that Brown said all the right things in the interview about how he'll play more guys, and he's also a known offensive innovator and has defensive bona fides, too. I think of the available coaches, we could have done worse. Aside from his 60% winning percentage across 750 games as a head coach, he's been part of legendary teams in San Antonio and Golden State as an assistant and, based on his time in LA, knows how to handle major market media. I wasn't wowed when they first started interviewing him, but I think he could do well in NY. With the new bench depth (Clarkson and Yabusele), and some guys on the bench I'd like to see given an opportunity (Kolek, Hujporti, Dadiet), I am shaking off the Thibs ouster and moving forward.I initially saw a headline "Knicks hire Brown as coach" and part of me was hoping they were bringing back Hubie. Is Mike Brown really a step in the right direction from Thibs? Should it have taken this long to make this decision?
Sources: Knicks expected to hire Brown as HC
The New York Knicks are expected to hire Mike Brown, a two-time winner of the NBA's Coach of the Year award, as the franchise's next head coach, sources told ESPN on Wednesday.www.espn.com
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SkyBrickey
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Yeah, I don't understand what the Hornets are doing with their roster.
Guards: Ball, Mann, Green, Connaughton, Sexton, Dinwiddie, Kon, Sion. That's 8 total!
Small forwards: Miller, Okogie, McNeely, Jeffries.
They are four deep at the 1-3. I don't like that for Sion or Kon. Maybe there's a trade in the works.
brevity
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The Phoenix Suns announced Monday that their draft night trade for Mark Williams has been finalized.
“Mark combines imposing size and length with a valuable skill set of finishing ability, rim protection, tough rebounding and passing instincts,” said Suns general manager Brian Gregory. “He also plays with a tremendous motor and brings intangible qualities that fit our team identity. His addition bolsters us at the center position, and we are excited to welcome Mark to Phoenix.”
Williams (7’-0”, 240 pounds) averaged career bests of 15.3 points, 10.2 rebounds, 2.5 assists and 1.2 blocks in 44 games with the Hornets last season. He shot 60.4% from the field in 2024-25, one of just three players in the NBA along with Giannis Antetokounmpo and Ivica Zubac to average at least 15 points and 10 rebounds on over 60% shooting.
The Suns also posted a short clip of Williams' first day in town.
“Mark combines imposing size and length with a valuable skill set of finishing ability, rim protection, tough rebounding and passing instincts,” said Suns general manager Brian Gregory. “He also plays with a tremendous motor and brings intangible qualities that fit our team identity. His addition bolsters us at the center position, and we are excited to welcome Mark to Phoenix.”
Williams (7’-0”, 240 pounds) averaged career bests of 15.3 points, 10.2 rebounds, 2.5 assists and 1.2 blocks in 44 games with the Hornets last season. He shot 60.4% from the field in 2024-25, one of just three players in the NBA along with Giannis Antetokounmpo and Ivica Zubac to average at least 15 points and 10 rebounds on over 60% shooting.
The Suns also posted a short clip of Williams' first day in town.
DukieInBrasil
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That sounds about right. Perhaps Tyus thought it was a potentially shine-able situation or that the presence of other players would allow for his personal stats to get a lift to go along with his sterling reputation as a caretaker of the offense. In the end it didn't really work out that way.
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(Cross-posting this from the Duke Men's 2025-26 Discussion thread.)
Duke MBB announces that Justin Robinson has been hired by the Lakers in a similar capacity, as Player Development Coach.
Duke MBB announces that Justin Robinson has been hired by the Lakers in a similar capacity, as Player Development Coach.
King of Defense
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Grayson Allen in trade rumors:
Suns Discussing Trades For Nick Richards, Grayson Allen, Royce O'Neale
Suns Discussing Trades For Nick Richards Grayson Allen Royce ONeale - RealGM Wiretap
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MChambers
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At least it wasn't Larry.I initially saw a headline "Knicks hire Brown as coach" and part of me was hoping they were bringing back Hubie. Is Mike Brown really a step in the right direction from Thibs? Should it have taken this long to make this decision?
Sources: Knicks expected to hire Brown as HC
The New York Knicks are expected to hire Mike Brown, a two-time winner of the NBA's Coach of the Year award, as the franchise's next head coach, sources told ESPN on Wednesday.
King of Defense
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And as it turns out, everyone in the NBA who did NOT go to Duke was traded today.
Or at least, it seems like. A seven-team trade? How long do those negotiations take?
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Or at least, it seems like. A seven-team trade? How long do those negotiations take?
Kevin Durant officially traded to Rockets in NBA record seven-team deal
The Suns, Rockets, Hawks, Wolves, Warriors, Nets, and Lakers were all involved in a deal sending the 15-time All-Star to Houston
Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15
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And one who did go to Duke.And as it turns out, everyone in the NBA who did NOT go to Duke was traded today.
Or at least, it seems like. A seven-team trade? How long do those negotiations take?
Kevin Durant officially traded to Rockets in NBA record seven-team deal
The Suns, Rockets, Hawks, Wolves, Warriors, Nets, and Lakers were all involved in a deal sending the 15-time All-Star to Houston
It's been detailed in the Mauluach thread.
JasonEvans
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It is a sorta fake trade. Most of this had already been worked out among these teams around the time of NBA draft and was being done independent of each other. Over the course of the past week, the various clubs tossed in a few extra things here and there to make it all easier and it wound up involving 7 separate teams. The reality is that these 7 clubs probably never got on the phone at the same time to talk about all of it.And as it turns out, everyone in the NBA who did NOT go to Duke was traded today.
Or at least, it seems like. A seven-team trade? How long do those negotiations take?
Kevin Durant officially traded to Rockets in NBA record seven-team deal
The Suns, Rockets, Hawks, Wolves, Warriors, Nets, and Lakers were all involved in a deal sending the 15-time All-Star to Houston
King of Defense
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Ah -- I see it now.
Some delays in making things official these days. Case in point -- over the weekend, Orlando finally announced the Tyus Jones deal:
Orlando Magic sign free agent guard Tyus Jones
The Orlando Magic have signed free agent guard Tyus Jones, the team announced Saturday. Terms of the deal were not disclosed, per team policy.
Indoor66
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Probably couldn't have been done before computers to keep it all straight.And as it turns out, everyone in the NBA who did NOT go to Duke was traded today.
Or at least, it seems like. A seven-team trade? How long do those negotiations take?
Kevin Durant officially traded to Rockets in NBA record seven-team deal
The Suns, Rockets, Hawks, Wolves, Warriors, Nets, and Lakers were all involved in a deal sending the 15-time All-Star to Houston
brevity
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Ah, but for as long as the NBA has existed, there have always been computers.
The league originated as the Basketball Association of America in June 1946, a few months after the invention of the ENIAC.
Originally announced on February 14, 1946, the Electronic Numerical Integrator and Computer (ENIAC), was the first general-purpose electronic computer. Hailed by The New York Times as “an amazing machine which applies electronic speeds for the first time to mathematical tasks hitherto too difficult and cumbersome for solution,” the ENIAC was a revolutionary piece of machinery in its day.
"Can we program this machine with information about player wingspans?"
"Who cares? My New York Knicks will still be terrible."
Crazy computer/basketball coincidence: based on the real caption of the above photo, the woman on the left is named Frances Bilas, and she was one of 6 original programmers for the ENIAC. Another one, not pictured, was Kathleen Antonelli.
JasonEvans
Host, The Duke Basketball Roundup
It is silly, but the NBA does not technically allow free agent signings until July 6th. So, all the deals that were wink-wink nudge-nudge agreed to over the past week could not be made official until yesterday.
That is why the announcements of so much of this stuff was delayed. The Atlanta Hawks sent me an alert yesterday to let me know they had just signed Nickel Alexander-Walker. Thanks for the breaking news on something that happened on June 30th!
brevity
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Yes, Paolo Banchero must be the answer to the trivia question, "Who is the only NBA Rookie of the Year whose agent was a previous NBA Rookie of the Year?" Also, both won their awards as rookies with the Orlando Magic, 22 years apart.
I threw the word "previous" in the question to anticipate an answer like Grant Hill, who had a lawyer review his contracts, and was otherwise his own agent.
bundabergdevil
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Hill was also drafted by the Pistons and was technically co-rookie of the year.
JasonEvans
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Bagley finds his next home...
Zion’s contract guaranteed for the year
The Athletic (paywalled) calls guaranteeing the money a “quiet vote of confidence” in him.
The Athletic (paywalled) calls guaranteeing the money a “quiet vote of confidence” in him.