CrazyNotCrazie
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So that was interesting. Wow. Glad I didn't turn it off. So much for Halliburton being over-rated. Indiana looked awful in the first half but kept it fairly close.
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2024: How can Steve Kerr not give Jayson Tatum any minutes for Team USA?
2025: Why weren't we complaining to Kerr about not playing Tyrese Haliburton?
Indiana wins Game 1 of the NBA Finals by the narrowest of margins.
Screw the ratings discussion. Small markets > big markets. Adam Silver needs to say, "This is real basketball. If you don't want to watch, we don't need you. Go waste your time on that wanker Roger Goodell."
2025: Why weren't we complaining to Kerr about not playing Tyrese Haliburton?
Indiana wins Game 1 of the NBA Finals by the narrowest of margins.
Screw the ratings discussion. Small markets > big markets. Adam Silver needs to say, "This is real basketball. If you don't want to watch, we don't need you. Go waste your time on that wanker Roger Goodell."
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Man is that ever going down as one of the all-time worst takes. “Dewey defeats Truman”, “What’s the harm in humoring him?”, “Television is a fad”: move over, you’ve got company.
I think anyone could've gotten some pretty nice odds on the proposition of the Pacers losing the turnover battle by the absurd number of 24-6 and still winning the game. That is completely nuts.
Too many stories about himself and other self-referential asides. Just call the game. Nowhere near as bad as Cory with making himself the story, but annoying nonetheless.
Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15
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Must have been an excellent game last night if this is the extent of the discussion.
NBA Finals ratings: Pacers-Thunder thriller posts worst Game 1 numbers since league's COVID-19 downturn
Game 1's ratings were down 18% from last year's Celtics-Mavericks NBA Finals.
I actually forgot it was on. As expected (even though these teams very deserving), TV ratings poor.
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It's funny to hear the commentary team continue to laud Caruso's defense when most replays show him committing 1-2 fouls. Thought the officiating crew as a whole struggled last night. Went from a relatively free flowing first half to calling a significant number of fouls in the third.
Thunder looked fantastic yesterday, but I imagine the Pacers will still feel relatively happy to be headed home with a split. I think we will see an aggressive Haliburton in game 3 and if he's connecting then Indy will have a chance. Pivotal game 3 for the Pacers. Difficult to see a path for them to win the series if they go down 1-2.
Thunder looked fantastic yesterday, but I imagine the Pacers will still feel relatively happy to be headed home with a split. I think we will see an aggressive Haliburton in game 3 and if he's connecting then Indy will have a chance. Pivotal game 3 for the Pacers. Difficult to see a path for them to win the series if they go down 1-2.
Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15
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If the amount of discourse on this board is reflective of the level of national attention paid to the Finals, it's not good for ratings.
NBA Finals ratings: Pacers-Thunder thriller posts worst Game 1 numbers since league's COVID-19 downturn
Game 1's ratings were down 18% from last year's Celtics-Mavericks NBA Finals.sports.yahoo.com
I actually forgot it was on. As expected (even though these teams very deserving), TV ratings poor.
So much discussion over the lack of "superstar" power, but to me making Big Plays in Big Moments is what creates the superstar. SGA and Halliburton absolutely have the potential to make this leap, in my opinion.
I do think the lack of big markets is a factor, but I think both these teams have some staying power and could develop a following if they can put a great product on the floor.
As I've noted before, the league and its media ecosystem also share plenty of blame for the ratings. Far too much attention still being paid to Lebron, Steph, KD et all, as well as aging teams like the Lakers, Warriors and Celtics (the only serious title contender among these 3). Rather than the up and coming superstars like SGA and Hali and more exciting, deep and versatile teams like the Thunder, T-Wolves and Pacers. Who are putting a much better product on the floor, at least for hardcore fans.
SGA has to be the least publicized MVP in league history. And nobody was even talking about the Pacers as the playoffs began despite the fact that they had won 71% of their games since January 1 (58-win pace over a large sample size, not a fluky streak).
Years ago, ESPN did a good job of covering sports and athletes. As time has gone one they have gotten worse and worse about picking their stars and favorites and over-covering them. Get Up talks about the Dallas Cowboys almost daily even though they haven't been relevant for decades and then they go into Aaron Rodgers coverage (almost every day). They covered Tiger but not golf. They cover LeBron and Steph but not the NBA. I mean, sure they show other guys but very lightly. They cover Caitlin but not the WNBA, etc.
As a Duke, Steph, Jokic and Caitlin fan, I do get to see some of my favorites daily. But SGA is the perfect example of what's wrong. Watching him in the playoffs is the most of I've seen of him...and he's fantastic. The fast pace style of the Pacers is also fantastic...but before the playoffs I really didn't know. Coverage of womens sports and golf is probably the worst. For years all they covered was Tiger. They would literally cover him for 7/8 of the time and then lightly mention the guy leading/winning. Women's golf is hardly covered at all and when it is it means that Korda or another player did well. NWSL gets no coverage, the USWNT gets just a little bit (despite being one of our countries top programs for years).
The other issue with ESPN is that they will over cover anything aired on their network. That's one reason they stopped covering women's golf. Years ago, the LPGA made a mistake....they signed a deal that would have them only broadcast on The Golf Channel. Shouldn't matter though, if the women are playing a major it should be one of the top stories....it's hardly mentioned. I could go on and on, I just wish it was better. Guys like SGA deserve better.
Okay, Redskins fan, take it easy.
The Dallas Cowboys are ALWAYS relevant because they are the most valuable sports franchise on the planet, they have the most fans, they sell the most merchandise, their games are always highly-watched, they’re showcased to the nation every Thanksgiving, they have cool uniforms, they’ve got the star on the helmet, and they have the best cheerleaders.
So, of course, ESPN and all the other sports networks and publications are going to talk about the Cowboys endlessly because people are interested in them. Sports are entertainment, and the Cowboys are entertaining. Period.
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I agree with all of this, elvis, other than your Dallas Cowboys take. And I, too, am a fan of Duke Basketball, Steven Curry, and Nikola Jokić. And my two favorite basketball players are Cooper Flagg and Caitlin Clark. I’ve watched this highlight reel more times than I can remember. It’s mind-blowing.
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Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15
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The most important thing is that you are certain of your lack of bias.Okay, Redskins fan, take it easy.
The Dallas Cowboys are ALWAYS relevant because they are the most valuable sports franchise on the planet, they have the most fans, they sell the most merchandise, their games are always highly-watched, they’re showcased to the nation every Thanksgiving, they have cool uniforms, they’ve got the star on the helmet, and they have the best cheerleaders.
So, of course, ESPN and all the other sports networks and publications are going to talk about the Cowboys endlessly because people are interested in them. Sports are entertainment, and the Cowboys are entertaining. Period.
Bias goes both ways, my friend.The most important thing is that you are certain of your lack of bias.
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Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15
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Well, you're clearly the only one with any bias on this message board!Bias goes both ways, my friend.
The most important thing is that you are certain of your lack of bias.
LOL, I'm 100% certain of my strong bias (and I knew Stephen43 would respond to my cheap shot at the Cowboys, I mean I have to have some fun around here). Lucky for everyone my influence is about 3 people, 2 of whom usually ignore me