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That is awesome. Congrats to the BlakesBig weekend for the whole Blakes family. Jaylen hit the last shot to beat UNC while sister Mikayla hit the game-winner for Vanderbilt women's team over Tennessee.
That is awesome. Congrats to the BlakesBig weekend for the whole Blakes family. Jaylen hit the last shot to beat UNC while sister Mikayla hit the game-winner for Vanderbilt women's team over Tennessee.
I'm sorry but was that comment really necessary? With no further commentary or context, it comes across as a cheap shot at a guy who left the Duke program. I happen to disagree with your assessment but that's not really the point. Mark Mitchell seems like a good person and good teammate who busted his butt on the court and gave his all for Duke. Why you feel the need to denigrate him here is beyond me.Wouldn’t get off the bench for Duke this year.
Agree. Moreover, Jaylen graduated in three years and enrolled in graduate school at a premier institution. Isn't that to be celebrated for any Duke student?I'm sorry but was that comment really necessary? With no further commentary or context, it comes across as a cheap shot at a guy who left the Duke program. I happen to disagree with your assessment but that's not really the point. Mark Mitchell seems like a good person and good teammate who busted his butt on the court and gave his all for Duke. Why you feel the need to denigrate him here is beyond me.
All three of the Plumlees played their full college career at Duke. Miles was originally committed to Stanford before, ironically, Johnny Dawkins was named head coach. If memory serves, Mason had already committed to Duke. When Trent Johnson left Palo Alto, Miles switched his commitment to Duke.Yeah, the upside and downside of the current transfer reality is on full display here.
Upside: Players like Blakes getting a world-class education and some terrific moments on the court.
Downside: Players who are marginal pro prospects at best sacrificing their development, both in the classroom and in their sport, to hop around and get a few more minutes of playing time.
We have to hope the days of players staying put and progressing -- like Zoubek and Koubek and Plumlee and Plumlee and Plumlee (OK, granted, one of those Plumlees was an incoming transfer) -- aren't totally gone. We'll only ever get the occasional Zion or Flagg, but how many Justin Robinsons can we get?
All three of the Plumlees played their full college career at Duke. Miles was originally committed to Stanford before, ironically, Johnny Dawkins was named head coach. If memory serves, Mason had already committed to Duke. When Trent Johnson left Palo Alto, Miles switched his commitment to Duke.
Speaking of transfers, Miles was part of a three man recruiting class with Elliot Williams and Olek Czyz.Yep - my mistake. I had thought he had been at Stanford for a season.
Speaking of transfers, Miles was part of a three man recruiting class with Elliot Williams and Olek Czyz.
Beard, "Brake goes to PTA meetings". Great story. I'll surely root for Brake as long as he isn't playing against Duke!Really heartwarming nice piece about former Blue Devil Jaemyn Brakefield: https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...ng-his-nil-money-to-help-raise-a-16-year-old/
Gary Parrish talks about the story for a good bit of time on the latest Eye on College Basketball podcast. I’m not crying, you’re crying.Really heartwarming nice piece about former Blue Devil Jaemyn Brakefield: https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...ng-his-nil-money-to-help-raise-a-16-year-old/
I'm sorry but was that comment really necessary? With no further commentary or context, it comes across as a cheap shot at a guy who left the Duke program. I happen to disagree with your assessment but that's not really the point. Mark Mitchell seems like a good person and good teammate who busted his butt on the court and gave his all for Duke. Why you feel the need to denigrate him here is beyond me.
Thank you both! It was an unnessecary cheap shot at one of our own. A young man that did everything right. He should indeed be celebrated, not degraded.Agree. Moreover, Jaylen graduated in three years and enrolled in graduate school at a premier institution. Isn't that to be celebrated for any Duke student?
Agree. Moreover, Jaylen graduated in three years and enrolled in graduate school at a premier institution. Isn't that to be celebrated for any Duke student
What a great story. Gary Parrish also discusses it at length on yesterday’s Eye on college basketball podcast. Starts at the 15:45 mark when GP starts talking about a visit to Ole Miss, where he heard about Brakefield. GP keeps talking about Jaemyn to the 28 minute mark, and beyond, reminding us to do more for others. And for those who don’t listen to that podcast, they don’t usually spend 13 minutes on a single human interest story.Really heartwarming nice piece about former Blue Devil Jaemyn Brakefield: https://www.cbssports.com/college-b...ng-his-nil-money-to-help-raise-a-16-year-old/
I beg to differ... He would have gotten minutes, as he was a defensive spark plug and that is always handy to bring off the bench. That said, I agree that Duke has so much talent he likely would have remained a small role player, perhaps averaging around 3-6 mpg. It was a good decision to go someplace where he could garner more attention and spread his wings, and I'm glad he's doing well. I'll be rooting for him to have a big game when Stanford visits (just not too big...Wouldn’t get off the bench for Duke this year.
At first i thought the original comment was directed at Mark Mitchell, which i thought was odd, b/c had he stayed and Duke still got all the transfers, MM would definitely play, but not as a starter. His minutes would probably fall to the 10-15 mpg range. So, it was a very good decision for him to transfer, as he's playing a lot, and playing pretty well.I beg to differ... He would have gotten minutes, as he was a defensive spark plug and that is always handy to bring off the bench. That said, I agree that Duke has so much talent he likely would have remained a small role player, perhaps averaging around 3-6 mpg. It was a good decision to go someplace where he could garner more attention and spread his wings, and I'm glad he's doing well. I'll be rooting for him to have a big game when Stanford visits (just not too big...).
Jaylen's hypothetical role on this year's Duke team would be limited by his size. Duke has great positional size (Caleb is the shortest rotation player at 6'5") that allows it to switch everything on D. Hard to do that with 6'2" Blakes, which is why I'd guess Foster would stay ahead of him on the depth chart and he'd be a deep rotation guy.However, as you point to Blakes, i'm thinking that had he stayed at Duke and all the recruits and transfers still came (although maybe Cam Sheffield probably doesn't) that ~5 mpg would be about right for Jaylen. But now that Foster is so erratic and unproductive, i wonder if Jaylen's role wouldn't expand and take pretty much all of Caleb's minutes. Or perhaps having Jaylen would push CF to the off-the-bench 2G instead, where he might end up playing much (or at least somewhat) better. Still, Jaylen is playing great ball at Stanford and he would certainly not be playing nearly as much nor be given nearly as much responsibility on offense as he has over there. So, it was a great move for him. Plus he got to hit the game-winner at the Dump over the Holes, which is delightful for Duke fans and a memory he'll cherish forever, and probably wouldn't have gotten had he stayed at Duke.
as regareds Jaylen's size, i agree. Otoh, Caleb has been sooooo unproductive with such frequency now that Jaylen may be an improvement even though he wouldn't allow Duke to use the scheme Scheyer is using. In the end it doesn't matter much b/c Jaylen is having a great year with Stanford. Additionally, it's likely uNC wins that game without him so it's a vicarious Duke win!!! Very pleased that Duke had the foresight to "loan" him to Stanford just to get that win!!!Jaylen's hypothetical role on this year's Duke team would be limited by his size. Duke has great positional size (Caleb is the shortest rotation player at 6'5") that allows it to switch everything on D. Hard to do that with 6'2" Blakes, which is why I'd guess Foster would stay ahead of him on the depth chart and he'd be a deep rotation guy.
On a differently constructed (not necessarily more or less talented) Duke team, I could see Blakes having a bigger role. He's a very solid college player, as he's showing this year. I've said before that I would love having him around as a break-in-case-of-emergency guy this year, but glad to see him shining with Stanford.
I seem to recall that muscular Jaylen was occasionally used by Jon to guard much taller players. Is my memory faulty?as regareds Jaylen's size, i agree. Otoh, Caleb has been sooooo unproductive with such frequency now that Jaylen may be an improvement even though he wouldn't allow Duke to use the scheme Scheyer is using. In the end it doesn't matter much b/c Jaylen is having a great year with Stanford. Additionally, it's likely uNC wins that game without him so it's a vicarious Duke win!!! Very pleased that Duke had the foresight to "loan" him to Stanford just to get that win!!!