MBB: Duke hosts Western Carolina (Saturday 11/8, 1:30pm ET, The CW) Pregame & In-Game Thread

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After beginning the 2025-26 season with a neutral court win, the 6th-ranked Duke Blue Devils (1-0) play their home opener on Saturday afternoon against the Western Carolina Catamounts (0-1). The game tips off at 1:30pm ET in Cameron Indoor Stadium, and will air on The CW. (Sports events on The CW are live on broadcast only, with no streaming link. If it helps, use this channel finder.) For those of you who can neither attend nor watch the game, consider a pair of free alternatives: listening to the game on the Blue Devils Sports Network and following live stats from Sidearm or StatBroadcast.

If you so choose, you can make your own Saturday doubleheader by watching WCU-Duke men's hoops at 1:30pm ET on The CW, and then Duke-Connecticut football at 3:30pm ET on CBSSN. Based on what I've read in the Legitimate Viewing/Streaming Options thread, both channels are viewable to YouTube TV subscribers, who are slightly bothered right now by the ESPN dispute.

Tim Craft (bio) led Gardner-Webb for 11 years before moving from Boiling Springs to Cullowhee and becoming Western Carolina's head coach in 2024. His first season was an adjustment, as the Catamounts went 8-22 overall and 4-14 in the SoCon, 9th out of 10 teams. The Field of 68 spoke with Coach Craft last month about entering his second season on the job.


"Feeling a lot better -- everything from just knowing where things are, getting your family settled, to your roster, feeling like you got some experience and retention and continuity."

Speaking of retention and continuity, Sports Reference calculates that over 58 percent of the minutes played and over 55 percent of the points scored last year have carried over to this current squad. Based on their votes in the recent SoCon preseason poll, the conference's coaches expect some steady improvement from WCU, predicting a 7th place finish. They also named junior forward Marcus Kell to the 10-man preseason team.

The computer ratings can provide a ballpark opinion of where Western Carolina fits on a national scale, but here I see a difference of ballpark opinions: they rank 207th by KenPom, 234th by EvanMiya, 276th by Haslametrics, and 292nd by T-Rank. What's noteworthy is that each evaluator gave the team a significant jump from the end of last season to the beginning of this season. Bracket Busters observed that WCU might be Ken Pomeroy's most improved team:


Similarly, Evan Miyakawa moved them from #342 to #234, Erik Haslam hoisted them from #336 to #276, and Bart Torvik took them from #342 to #292. We're often warned by these guys that their own preseason ratings are inherently unreliable because so much of last season's results are baked in, but the Catamounts seem to be wildly bucking that trend.

Let's take a look at the team's roster. They have 7 returners and 2 redshirt freshmen already familiar with the program, plus 3 true freshmen and 4 incoming transfers.

Last year of eligibility

6-10 forward Vernon Collins #33 (18.0 mpg for WCU in 2024-25)
6-10 forward Chase McKey #1 (16.6 mpg)

6-4 guard Tidjiane Dioumassi #22 (26.5 mpg at Southern)
5-11 guard Julien Soumaoro #3 (16.6 mpg at East Carolina)

2 years of eligibility

6-8 forward Marcus Kell #23 (24.9 mpg)
6-4 guard Cord Stansberry #0 (29.8 mpg)

3 years of eligibility

6-4 guard Fischer Brown #20 (12.0 mpg)
6-1 guard CJ Hyland #2 (21.1 mpg)
6-3 guard Jamar Livingston #9 (14.3 mpg)

6-8 guard Justin Johnson #4 (5.8 mpg at Arkansas State)
7-0 center Abdulai Fanta Kabba #7 (17.2 mpg at Denver)

4 years of eligibility

6-9 forward Samuel Dada #12 (unranked; Nigeria/USA)
5-9 guard Titian DeRosa #5 (unranked; USA)
6-7 forward Tayeshaun Smith #21 (unranked; USA)

5-11 guard Drew Hollifield #11 (redshirt; unranked in 2024)
6-6 guard Max Williams #17 (redshirt; unranked in 2024)

Grad guard Julien Soumaoro began his career playing for Coach Craft at Gardner-Webb, and they came to Durham to face Duke in November 2021, losing 92-52. Soumaoro played 17 minutes in that game, hitting his lone 3-pointer and adding 4 assists.

Fast forward 4 years. Western Carolina opened the 2025-26 season on Monday with a game at Cincinnati, and the Bearcats won 94-63 (recap, box score, highlights). Kell, Soumaoro, and junior guard Cord Stansberry played 30 minutes each and combined for 48 of the team's 63 points. Stansberry went 9-19 from the field, with 4 made threes, to finish with 23 points. Soumaoro added 13 points and 5 rebounds, while Kell had 12 points and 9 boards.


Despite being an in-state scheduling possibility, Western Carolina has played Duke only 3 times before, according to GoDuke's opponent history. All of the games took place in Cameron during the mid-1990s, and the Catamounts went 0-3, with nice round losses by 20, 40, and 50 points.

Discuss their 4th meeting here.
 
Well, Kitty Whiskers!!

Furman is playing at noon and it's showing on the CW here in Greenville, SC.
Probably won't get the Duke/WC game.
 
Well, Kitty Whiskers!!

Furman is playing at noon and it's showing on the CW here in Greenville, SC.
Probably won't get the Duke/WC game.

At first, I didn't see a channel conflict. Links below are to the team schedules.

Furman FB: plays Chattanooga at noon ET on Saturday, but it's on ESPN+
Furman MBB: has games on Friday and Monday, both on ESPN+
Furman WBB: has games on Thursday and Monday, both on SEC+

But then I searched your CW 62 Greenville affiliate and found a local schedule.

Noon ET: They're showing the Furman-Chattanooga football game, so you won't need ESPN+ for that.
3pm ET: They're showing the Western Carolina-Duke basketball game, probably on a delay.

TV Passport says the same thing for its Spectrum cable listings at the 29601 zip code. (The broadcast and AT&T U-Verse options for Greenville show no sports programming at all on The CW in the early afternoon, which confused things further.)

It's unclear if you'll be able to watch the whole basketball game, as the Stanford-UNC football game kicks off at 4:30pm ET. If your TV provider has an on-screen guide for Saturday, you may want to look there for some clarity.



This is probably a good time to suggest that the rest of you check your CW affiliate's schedule (preferably an on-screen guide on your TV) for any similar abnormalities. My New Orleans affiliate, for example, has Western Carolina-Duke at the regularly scheduled time.
 
At first, I didn't see a channel conflict. Links below are to the team schedules.

Furman FB: plays Chattanooga at noon ET on Saturday, but it's on ESPN+
Furman MBB: has games on Friday and Monday, both on ESPN+
Furman WBB: has games on Thursday and Monday, both on SEC+

But then I searched your CW 62 Greenville affiliate and found a local schedule.

Noon ET: They're showing the Furman-Chattanooga football game, so you won't need ESPN+ for that.
3pm ET: They're showing the Western Carolina-Duke basketball game, probably on a delay.

TV Passport says the same thing for its Spectrum cable listings at the 29601 zip code. (The broadcast and AT&T U-Verse options for Greenville show no sports programming at all on The CW in the early afternoon, which confused things further.)

It's unclear if you'll be able to watch the whole basketball game, as the Stanford-UNC football game kicks off at 4:30pm ET. If your TV provider has an on-screen guide for Saturday, you may want to look there for some clarity.



This is probably a good time to suggest that the rest of you check your CW affiliate's schedule (preferably an on-screen guide on your TV) for any similar abnormalities. My New Orleans affiliate, for example, has Western Carolina-Duke at the regularly scheduled time.
Kitty Whiskers here in Asheville too, as we have the CW broadcast partner.
 
The computer ratings can provide a ballpark opinion of where Western Carolina fits on a national scale, but here I see a difference of ballpark opinions: they rank 207th by KenPom, 234th by EvanMiya, 276th by Haslametrics, and 292nd by T-Rank. What's noteworthy is that each evaluator gave the team a significant jump from the end of last season to the beginning of this season. Bracket Busters observed that WCU might be Ken Pomeroy's most improved team:


Similarly, Evan Miyakawa moved them from #342 to #234, Erik Haslam hoisted them from #336 to #276, and Bart Torvik took them from #342 to #292. We're often warned by these guys that their own preseason ratings are inherently unreliable because so much of last season's results are baked in, but the Catamounts seem to be wildly bucking that trend.
Justin Gray was building something in Cullowhee, but then he left for Coastal Carolina. Tim Craft inherited a 22-win team that was #263 preseason in KenPom... and went 8-22 with a #338 KenPom finish. I'm not sure where the optimism is coming from. Continuity, I guess? Torvik has WCU at #301, which is a pretty wild disparity from KenPom.
 
At first, I didn't see a channel conflict. Links below are to the team schedules.

Furman FB: plays Chattanooga at noon ET on Saturday, but it's on ESPN+
Furman MBB: has games on Friday and Monday, both on ESPN+
Furman WBB: has games on Thursday and Monday, both on SEC+

But then I searched your CW 62 Greenville affiliate and found a local schedule.

Noon ET: They're showing the Furman-Chattanooga football game, so you won't need ESPN+ for that.
3pm ET: They're showing the Western Carolina-Duke basketball game, probably on a delay.

TV Passport says the same thing for its Spectrum cable listings at the 29601 zip code. (The broadcast and AT&T U-Verse options for Greenville show no sports programming at all on The CW in the early afternoon, which confused things further.)

It's unclear if you'll be able to watch the whole basketball game, as the Stanford-UNC football game kicks off at 4:30pm ET. If your TV provider has an on-screen guide for Saturday, you may want to look there for some clarity.



This is probably a good time to suggest that the rest of you check your CW affiliate's schedule (preferably an on-screen guide on your TV) for any similar abnormalities. My New Orleans affiliate, for example, has Western Carolina-Duke at the regularly scheduled time.
The game is on CW here in DC on Verizon FIOS (Channel 503) at 1:30 pm.

It says something that I am looking forward to CW coverage over most of the ESPN coverage (especially mah man Corey Alexander), even though I know that CW's coverage will have quite a few flaws.
 
The computer ratings can provide a ballpark opinion of where Western Carolina fits on a national scale, but here I see a difference of ballpark opinions: they rank 207th by KenPom, 234th by EvanMiya, 276th by Haslametrics, and 292nd by T-Rank. What's noteworthy is that each evaluator gave the team a significant jump from the end of last season to the beginning of this season. Bracket Busters observed that WCU might be Ken Pomeroy's most improved team:

Forgive me about going off topic, but Hawaii looked really good against Oregon last night. Just a rebound away from beating the Ducks on their home court. I'm going to keep an eye on them.

Western Carolina may be improved. But to paraphrase Barkley as a fan, I don't know anything about Western Carolina, but Western Carolina's in trouble.

I look forward to seeing Duke's bench guys get some minutes.

9F
 
Good news! From Western Carolina's PDF game notes:

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The announcers for the broadcast on The CW will be Rick Allen (Def Leppard drummer Nebraska track; article) and Mike Gminski (Duke basketball; bio).

So we'll probably be complaining about the camera angles this Saturday, but not the commentary.
I bet Gminski won’t have any trouble with Pat’s and Nik’s last names…
 
Justin Gray was building something in Cullowhee, but then he left for Coastal Carolina. Tim Craft inherited a 22-win team that was #263 preseason in KenPom... and went 8-22 with a #338 KenPom finish. I'm not sure where the optimism is coming from. Continuity, I guess? Torvik has WCU at #301, which is a pretty wild disparity from KenPom.
From a quick search it looks like only 3 players from that 23-24 team were still around last year. I didn't take the time to look up how much they played/contributed but maybe Craft, like most coaches in the portal era, inherited an empty cupboard and needed a year to restock?
 
Game Day.

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The announcers for the broadcast on The CW will be Rick Allen (Def Leppard drummer Nebraska track; article) and Mike Gminski (Duke basketball; bio).

Pregame Links

Duke: preview, PDF game notes
WCU: preview, PDF game notes

In the last meeting on Dec. 30, 1996, Greg Newton posted a 25-point, 10-rebound double-double and current Duke associate head coach Chris Carrawell added seven points, six boards and three steals in the Blue Devils' 104-54 win.

Videos

The second segment of DBR Podcast #766 previews the WCU-Duke game: "Whether you know what a Catamount is or not, you always need to respect your opponent. That's why the Duke Basketball Roundup takes time before every single Duke basketball game to preview the team coming up next on the calendar."


Also some early looks from Talking Ball and 5 Point Play.


 
Noon ET: They're showing the Furman-Chattanooga football game, so you won't need ESPN+ for that.
3pm ET: They're showing the Western Carolina-Duke basketball game, probably on a delay.



This is probably a good time to suggest that the rest of you check your CW affiliate's schedule (preferably an on-screen guide on your TV) for any similar abnormalities. My New Orleans affiliate, for example, has Western Carolina-Duke at the regularly scheduled time.
I'm in Asheville this weekend. Spectrum guide says CW has the Duke basketball game from only 3-4pm. Pregame coverage of the Stanford/UNC football game is scheduled for 4p with kickoff scheduled at 4:30. This makes me think they're just going to join the second half live when the football game no one cares about ends.

I want to try a sports bar, but I assume they won't be able to get it either since CW is OTA. ACC is such a joke to have a rights deal like this with the CW.
 
I'm in Asheville this weekend. Spectrum guide says CW has the Duke basketball game from only 3-4pm. Pregame coverage of the Stanford/UNC football game is scheduled for 4p with kickoff scheduled at 4:30. This makes me think they're just going to join the second half live when the football game no one cares about ends.

I want to try a sports bar, but I assume they won't be able to get it either since CW is OTA. ACC is such a joke to have a rights deal like this with the CW.
According to my CW schedule the Duke BB game starts at 1:30 and the telecast runs until 4:00. At 4:00 is when the CW starts its football coverage. Stanford Football game starts at 4:30. What is the CW carrying before 3:00? This seems weird.
 
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