Jai to Miami

pamtelp said:
The situation is similar to what college football experiences after the regular season and before the bowls (where teams can't field a full roster for a bowl game). The transfer portal opening at the end of the regular season is messed up. It leads to situations like this and isn't fair to kids playing in the postseason. The transfer portal should open on Tuesday after the National Championship game.

Given all of this, I understand why Jai has to leave. I don't blame him, but I do blame the system. The lack of leadership in college sports is startling.
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I read some schools that were in the college football playoffs had to increase NIL to guys so they wouldn't leave during the playoffs.
 
-jk said:
Even if the right thing for Jay may not be the best thing for Duke.

Damned portal timing…

-jk
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There is just no rational excuse for the kinds of things we are seeing in both football and basketball now with respect to the portal calendar. I have heard some of the excuses, and there is just nothing there that could not be addressed and resolved.
 
75Crazie said:
There is just no rational excuse for the kinds of things we are seeing in both football and basketball now with respect to the portal calendar. I have heard some of the excuses, and there is just nothing there that could not be addressed and resolved.
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The issue is that the NCAA held on for dear life to a broken system that everyone knew needed to be fixed. Rather than get together with athletes and build a system that rewards the athletes and shares the massive revenue they generate, colleges and their collective organization stuck their heads in the sand and pretended they didn't care about reality and that there was too much honor in being a 'student athlete.'

When the inevitable end came, it happened without organization or proper planning because it was forced rather than built.

And I really don't like it when people blame 'the NCAA' - the NCAA is just a patsy, a punching bag, and plausible cover for the schools.
 
-jk said:
The NCAA is a collection of some 1200 schools with vastly different ideas of what college sports should look like. Only a few dozen of those schools are trying to play at the most expensive end of things.

-jk
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A few dozen, of which only a select few are in the ACC. Apparently.

- Chillin
 
I'm sad and frustrated that Jai is leaving, but I can't blame him. He's 36 years old and been offered a job at a program that has made two Elite 8 and one Final 4 appearances in the past 4 seasons. It's ridiculous the transfer portal opens on March 24th instead of after the tourney. There's no way he can do what needs to be done for Miami if he's not active day 1 in the portal. Horrible timing for Duke and a tourney run - I'm sure that Jai is torn. Hopefully he doesn't try and pull any commitments away from Duke.
 
rocketeli said:
Lots of wishful thinking on this thread. Jai Lucas now belongs to Miami and what will matter to him is being the best asset Miami can have, and any other attitude would be unethical actually, and also making sure he has the best career for himself and his family going forward. And that means doing everything he can to wins at Miami. Of course he will do all he can to get the Boozers to follow him to Miami or any other recruit for that matter. Doing anything else would be contrary to the best interests of both he and his employer
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I cannot second this enough. I didn't see this board up in arms when the two recent football hires brought recruits with them due to the portal. No grandstanding and calls for them to be fired because they "betrayed" their former employer in order to do the best for Duke. But now...now it is somehow unethical? The take some have is grossly disappointing. First and foremost we Jai will have an ethical & contractual obligation to do his best for Miami. Second, the Boozers can figure out what is best for themselves. They have excellent counsel I am sure. Duke has to make the best pitch possible to get them to sign and they have not yet signed.
 
I'm not saying folks should or shouldn't feel a certain way, but I agree that the real issue here isn't Jai or Duke or The Boozers or Miami or Coach Scheyer.

It's the portal calendar. You can't reasonably hire a coach after the portal and also after the major recruiting cycles. You'd be saying "go see what's conceivably left out there for a roster, and by the way the clock starts ticking on impatient fans immediately."

I understand the frustration about the situation, but on some level there needs to be a bit of grace for the folks involved. If CJS and Lucas are as close friends as it sounds, I'm inclined to see what they have to say about one another before attributing nefarious intention.

And also - there's no "good" time to do this. Nolan left for Louisville immediately after the season ended and got torched. Laranega left midseason and was lambasted. Tony Bennett left before the season and was roasted. There's far worse things than losing your associate head coach while on a winning streak and about a week removed from a #1 seed.

Lucas seems to be a fine young man, a good coach, and an excellent recruiter. He hopefully has a long and successful career ahead of him. Only he and Jon know what level lf discussion was had between them leading up to this. I will wish him well and assume the best until/unless I hear from others that something untoward happened.

I'm not telling anyone else how to feel about this, but I personally see no reason to get all fired up when our team is preparing to Restore Order.
 
Namtilal said:
Many aspects of this can be true.

Jai had to leave now, because the portal is opening in 3 or 4 weeks and they wouldn't hire him unless he was there and prepared.

It is not proper to abandon a team in the final title run of a season. I know he had no choice, but it is still not the right thing to do.

Jai had no good choices here. I am disappointed, but I don't totally blame him, either.

The world we live in is full of broken systems that encourage people to do the wrong thing in order to protect their interests. This is just one more example, and is absolutely a situation that the NCAA should adjust to in order to prevent this from happening more often. The portal simply shouldn't be open during a season.
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You do know that Duke hired Elko before A&M had completed it's bowl game and had him recruiting former A&M players that week? I don't believe I read a negative comment from you on that situation. If it is good for Duke it is ethical and fine but if it is bad for Duke it is unethical?
 
dukewolf said:
I cannot second this enough. I didn't see this board up in arms when the two recent football hires brought recruits with them due to the portal. No grandstanding and calls for them to be fired because they "betrayed" their former employer in order to do the best for Duke. But now...now it is somehow unethical? The take some have is grossly disappointing. First and foremost we Jai will have an ethical & contractual obligation to do his best for Miami. Second, the Boozers can figure out what is best for themselves. They have excellent counsel I am sure. Duke has to make the best pitch possible to get them to sign and they have not yet signed.
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The boozers have signed, and they’re not going anywhere.
 
Why are we getting worked up for hypotheticals we have no control over and questioning the ethics of ONE OF OUR OWN COACHES? Outside of the speculation on this thread has there ever been a time that Coach Lucas' character has come up? Until he actually does something to bring that into question shouldn't we afford him a level of trust. What's going to happen is going to happen. It's not like we haven't lost highly talented committed recruits in the past (Kris Humphries aka Mr. Kim Kardashian to Minnesota, Shau Livingston to the NBA). It's not like people have used negative recruit against us, even former players. Coach Lucas hasn't done anything against the program. He should get the benefit of the doubt until that changes.
 
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