Huge Auburn fan presence in Cameron on Wednesday

I mentioned the Auburn crowd on the LTE. The only good part of it is thinking of how much $ the obnoxious fans spent (I am sure they were resold for much more than face value) only to watch their team lose, and the jerk in the Auburn toboggan who talked smack before the game then left early, flipping us off as we all waved him goodbye.
 
Neals384 said:
While I appreciate the earnestness of the Iron Dukes post, the policy of discouraging resales if effective, will only drive up the price of the resale tickets that may still be available. As a non-season ticket holder (I live in Oregon), I'd like to be able to buy tix on the resale market when I can be there.
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Have you ever tried to get single game tickets directly from Duke? The reason that the Iron Dukes policy is to return tickets that you cannot use is to make those available to fans like you at face value rather than your having to compete with the opposing teams’ fans for those tickets on platforms like StubHub.
 
aimo said:
I mentioned the Auburn crowd on the LTE. The only good part of it is thinking of how much $ the obnoxious fans spent (I am sure they were resold for much more than face value) only to watch their team lose, and the jerk in the Auburn toboggan who talked smack before the game then left early, flipping us off as we all waved him goodbye.
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There were no tickets in our section available on StubHub by Wednesday afternoon, but comparable seats in the section directly across the court from us were listed from a low of $750 up to more than $1200. The lowest price I saw was over $500.
 
Rich said:
I purchased two tickets for the Miami game from SeatGeek. I will be rooting for Duke, of course, but no one asked as part of the purchase (tongue firmly in cheek). I don't see how you can realistically do anything about this and, while it's not ideal for the opponent to have so many fans, we live in a free market when it comes to buying/selling tickets.
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1. Midweek game is tough for many -- those seats won't be taken by season ticket holders. 2. Aren't quite a few season tickets owned by businesses? No guarantee those will be given to Duke fans (this exception applies mostly to UNC and State games).
 
Fussy emails notwithstanding, the Iron Dukes are not in the business of making life more difficult on donors by imposing consequences for their actions.
 
Stray Gator said:
There were no tickets in our section available on StubHub by Wednesday afternoon, but comparable seats in the section directly across the court from us were listed from a low of $750 up to more than $1200. The lowest price I saw was over $500.
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Damn! We should have sold OUR tickets! 😁
It would have put a small dent in the overall season ticket cost.
 
All Duke has to do is jump on to any ticket reselling service, identify the seats being sold, and contact the seat holder. "Hi, we are wondering how your seats are being sold for $XYZ over ticket value, can you help us out with this question?"

Even if they just do this for a couple dozen people or so randomly per game, the message will spread.
 
Like many have stated upthread it was disconcerting to see so many Auburn fans sitting around us. We are season ticket holders who have a 5.5 hour drive to Cameron. As we have aged we find that the 11 hours of driving is best spent on ACC games or premier non-conference games. Returning unused tickets to Duke is a great alternative to trying to find fraternity brothers or friends who want my tickets.

The language forbidding us from scalping our tickets (sale above face value) does not stop people from giving or selling their tickets at face to opposing fans. I am not aware that the anti-scalping rule has ever been enforced.

Last night we brought friends to the game and Auburn fans were sitting right in front of us in Section 14 row H seats 15 and 17. My wife had Auburn Fans right next to her in Section 10 Row A. I wrote Jack and gave him this information but I doubt he can really do much to the ticket holders even if he wanted to. They can always say they gave away their tickets. At least we won the game which shut up the Auburn fans.
 
CameronBornAndBred said:
All Duke has to do is jump on to any ticket reselling service, identify the seats being sold, and contact the seat holder. "Hi, we are wondering how your seats are being sold for $XYZ over ticket value, can you help us out with this question?"

Even if they just do this for a couple dozen people or so randomly per game, the message will spread.
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I have reason to believe that they do, in fact, do just that.

Back on March 5, 2019 Jack Winters emailed me about my season tickets for exactly this reason. I had not posted them to an online site. Someone else was selling fake tickets. When I let him know he replied: "Unfortunately, this is not uncommon."
 
I was told by an Auburn fan that this was a bucket list experience for him and his friend and they paid $1100/ticket. There was definitely north of 500 people there. I had 20+ in my section. I could have written stray gators post. I’ve been there for the last 15 years. Maybe times have changed, but I don’t recall it being this way under Ron Schmidt. When he was in charge, I gave my tickets to my sister, Duke fan, who took a Clemson grad. He was wearing a Clemson shirt. I got a call, during the game, at my house, asking why I sold mt ticket to a Clemson fan. They took it serious then
Like everything else, it’s all about money and the Iron Dukes let it ride. I also, with no proof , but just an observation, don’t believe just Duke fans have seats there. Which is a shame in such a small venue with a large fan base who only get to go there for CTC and holiday games. But I’m sure Duke is hurting deeply for money, so they get a pass.
 
I was glad to get Jack Winter’s email…. before I emailed him. Our seats are in section 2… end section …not very best seats but my family are all big Duke fans, we love coming, and are very happy to have them. I have a policy to only sell tickets to people who I know are fans. I’ve never not been able to sell them. I have an email list of about 20-30 and someone always wants them. I sell at face value. The other night there were Auburn fans to my left, to my right, and 2 rows behind and in front. Once the Auburn fan cheering at the beginning of the game calmed down, I chatted with both a bit. Both quite nice. One person said his family has 4 seasons tickets to Auburn games and that in Auburn the going rate for single tickets is $5-600– for fans. So… he sold 2 of his home tickets and paid for his Duke/Auburn ticket — over $1000 when he had paid for the ticket ($675) + fees. The person to my left actually grew up in Durham but all his family are Auburn fans and he now lives in Atlanta. He still has friends in Durham and bought 3 tickets at face value. Both were equally loud at the beginning and calmed down once Duke led in the first half. You can only control who buys a ticket so much. That said, the amount of orange in the stadium was much more than I’ve ever seen before. I have returned football tickets to the Iron Dukes before, but the notification I got about the credit was confusing. It’s helpful to have some clarification.
 
The returned ticket isn’t a credit like you might think. You’re not getting a monetary amount that you can use to offset, say, the donation amount or the cost of next year’s tickets.

Rather, you’re getting an IRS allowance to use as a deduction on your taxes. Your full Iron Dukes deduction is not deductible at all but these donations are. Based on your tax bracket, this deduction really isn’t going to be worth much, certainly not even the face value of the tickets.

My uneducated guess is that season tickets renewals are decreasing. Every summer, Duke offers the “opportunity” to buy even more season tickets - I think because not all seats are sold. So Duke really doesn’t want to lose any more season ticket holders by tossing some out. I’ve turned in tickets and heard that student athletes sat in my seats. I’m dubious of the home “sellout” streak dating back to 1990 (Pre-season NIT v Boston College).

I bet if someone wanted just one season ticket, in any location, and offered a donation of far less than the “required” amount, Duke would take that. Within reason.

It’s sometimes annoying to see opposing fans occupying seats but that happens in every sports venue in every team sport in existence. You just hope they aren’t absurdly obnoxious, they aren’t vulgar and they don’t sit next to you.

These tickets are an asset and, much like one’s own money, we can’t tell someone else how to use or spend those assets.
 
Nina could fix it because she is thoughtful and competent. At some point penalties will have to be assessed, because right now the threats of revoking seats seem to be completely toothless, and people know it.
First she has to explain the problem to people (which would seem evident now) then outline a procedure.
 
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