Our receivers get NO separation and our qb is immobile. Guys are hurt. We need to get some better players but I’m fine with where we are. To paraphrase Rummy you play with the guys you have not the ones you’d like to have I’m loving 6-1.
FB: Duke 23, Florida State 16
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Sorry, surprised someone else hasn’t mentioned this yet. Oh, the pessimism inbred into a Duke football fan
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But don’t we need to avoid the ceiling and incur a few more losses to postpone the “When does Manny leave” vigil.
Sorry, surprised someone else hasn’t mentioned this yet. Oh, the pessimism inbred into a Duke football fan
.Dr. Maturin
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Some people need to learn how to enjoy things I guess. In light of the series history with FSU and the ongoing litigation, this was an incredibly satisfying win.
Of course there is room for critique. Our offense has problems and unfortunately I don't think many of them are fixable this fall. I think the staff has earned some time to figure things out.
Mike Petrik
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Agreed. But I fear rough sledding going forward without some improvement on offense. Our defense is impressive but not dominating enough to win games on its own. We cannot count on future opponents routinely dropping passes.
Jake Taylor (#15) had a tough night last night. The play that stands out to me is a swing pass to Hagans who was blown up for a 2-3 yard loss because Taylor completely missed his block on the edge.
And didn't we lose a big gainer because of a hold by #15?
Yes, but the hold was questionable in my opinion.
Mike Petrik
Member
Exactly, having our first and second string tight ends out for the season is really tough. Hurts both our rushing and passing games badly. No easy fix for that. Perhaps playing time will improve Taylor? Maybe we have a talented “athlete” at another position not getting playing time that could learn on the job? I dunno, just reaching here. But an offense without a QB that can (or will) run NEEDS a good TE.
Mike Petrik
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100%! Very ticky-tack call.
richardjackson199
On Holiday
You're being nice. That was a horrible call.
The interception for what should have been the 5th turnover was also clearly supported by video evidence (on my TV anyway).
The refs did us no favors.
But FSU's many boneheaded penalties were much appreciated.
Indoor66
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My dad liked to say it's not how, it's how many. I try to keep that attitude. Style points count for nothing.
MartyClark
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I didn't got to Duke and have had narrow Duke interests for decades, not surprisingly its Duke men's basketball.
I've gotten a bit interested in Duke football and watched the game last night. I was happy to see Duke win and see the defense shine.
The Duke offense is not good. Am I the only one that thinks the Duke QB just doesn't have what it takes?
That's what stood out to me: our receivers got absolutely no separation. Though the QB ws only 12 for 24, I thought he threw for the most part very accurately- but to a man completely covered. These were quick passes, none of that "going through hs progressions" that all the commentators love to talk about. Maybe at least occasionally the QB should look for a second option.
Watching too much football, it seems to me that often the most successful plays are the QB going back to pass, get the defense to react and fall back, and then take off and run for long yardage. We don't see that with our QB.
ya, that was ugly. Maybe Manny should suit up a linebacker as a blocking tight end, anyone who can flatten somebody.
I was watching at home so I have no idea if other receivers were open, but by and large FSU seemed to cover our receivers like blankets...just didn't seem to be any clearly open.
peloton
Member
I just ran across this post by a FSU fan...
I think the worst and most insulting part is Duke’s fans didn’t even feel the need to even rush the field after beating Florida State for the first time in program history. This is the worst Florida State team I have ever seen. Never have I been more frustrated watching this school play football. I gotta think it was the snub last year. It sucked all the life out of this program. I don’t know if I even want to watch the rest of the games. FSU is going 2-10.
That first sentence is pretty hilarious. Except for "the snub" related comments, the rest could've been made by any Duke football fan during the Dark Era. But that was then...this is now - we're in the Díaz era, my friends!
I think the worst and most insulting part is Duke’s fans didn’t even feel the need to even rush the field after beating Florida State for the first time in program history. This is the worst Florida State team I have ever seen. Never have I been more frustrated watching this school play football. I gotta think it was the snub last year. It sucked all the life out of this program. I don’t know if I even want to watch the rest of the games. FSU is going 2-10.
That first sentence is pretty hilarious. Except for "the snub" related comments, the rest could've been made by any Duke football fan during the Dark Era. But that was then...this is now - we're in the Díaz era, my friends!
75Crazie
Member
It is sadly funny how more than a few people seem to believe that better play-calling can easily overcome the obvious deficiencies you describe.
Mike Petrik
Member
Agree 100%. And one of the players we got is Henry Belin, a quarterback who can run. I like MM, but last night a QB run threat would have helped Thomas and our receiving corps.
DoubleBlue
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There was that one series in the early 2nd half where the Duke offense tried a few different things. They ran a wildcat formation with Murphy rolling to the left and a direct snap to Thomas who ran it up the middle for 5 yards. Then they ran a double pitch back to Murphy who completed a 12 yard pass to Hagans. I believe that was the longest Duke drive lasting 5:02 with 3 first downs, 10 plays for 48 yards, and it culminated in a 44-yd FG. But unfortunately they put that back in the bottle for the rest of the game. Perhaps the whole offense is still in a steep learning curve and not yet ready to go beyond the basics. Of course it doesn't help to have the top RB, WR and TE out with injuries.