Duke MBB Scheduling: 2025-26

Amidst the big time scheduling news, a likely “buy game” against Indiana State:


Indiana State obviously has some history. They finished just inside the KP Top 200 last year, but play in the MVC that had multiple Top 100 teams including tourney darling Drake. This profiles to me as an “elevated cupcake” game… still likely Q3/4 but not going to weigh down our metrics/SOS like playing a team in the 300s would.
There is a home football game vs. UVA on Saturday Nov. 15 so that plus the Indiana State game is a nice way to come to town for both basketball and football in the same weekend.
 
Updated non-conference schedule edited to include everything we know, with likely Q1 games bolded and links to the info on the two newer "buy games":
  • Texas in Charlotte (neutral site, Nov 4)
  • Western Carolina (home, Nov 7/8)
  • @Army (road, Nov 11)
  • Indiana State (home, Nov 14)
  • Kansas in Champions Classic at MSG (neutral site, Nov. 18)
  • Arkansas in Chicago (neutral site, Thanksgiving)
  • SEC-ACC Challenge game (?, December)
  • @Michigan State (road, December)
  • Michigan in DC (neutral site, February)
A note: while Indiana State is a "cupcake+" game in my view, Western Carolina looks like a true early season cupcake tune-up. They finished #338 in KP last year. They do play in the SoCon, which isn't horrible (with the top three teams inside the KP Top 118 last year), but still very likely a legit Q4 game against a local cupcake.
That looks like a very good and challenging non-con schedule. Five tough games with four cupcakey. ;)
 
That looks like a very good and challenging non-con schedule. Five tough games with four cupcakey. ;)
Ohhh, you're clever sir. It took me a minute of piecing post together with poster to decipher how you came to that erroneous count, hahahahaha.
 
ACC just voted to drop to 18 game league schedule starting this coming season. Hopefully we can add at least one more marquee non-con game.
Will the Pack petition NC legislature to mandate home and away with Cheats? If successful and to quote Kenny Smith, will the school from Durham only play one game against his team?
 

I assume this begins in the 2025-26 season.
Dropping a couple league games to bolster the conference's tournament resume only works if the rest of the league uses that flexibility to schedule (and win) quality OOC games. Are we confident the other league teams are going to do that? I don't have a ton of faith for a sea change. The new coaches might move the needle a bit. I think Wade and Lucas will schedule more aggressively at State and Miami, fits their personalities. VCU's recent OOC doesn't suggest to me that Odom is a very ambitious scheduler. No clue about Loucks.
 
Will the Pack petition NC legislature to mandate home and away with Cheats? If successful and to quote Kenny Smith, will the school from Durham only play one game against his team?
I think UNC would be the one petitioning the legislature given NCSU's history of not showing up for that game.
 
Dropping a couple league games to bolster the conference's tournament resume only works if the rest of the league uses that flexibility to schedule (and win) quality OOC games. Are we confident the other league teams are going to do that? I don't have a ton of faith for a sea change. The new coaches might move the needle a bit. I think Wade and Lucas will schedule more aggressively at State and Miami, fits their personalities. VCU's recent OOC doesn't suggest to me that Odom is a very ambitious scheduler. No clue about Loucks.
Yeah, this was my initial reaction to this on the pod last week. This only does anything worthwhile if:
  1. ACC teams schedule strong (at minimum P5) competition with these extra two games.
  2. ACC teams actually win some of those games.
This reeks of putting a bandaid on the problem rather than diagnosing the underlying root cause. ACC basketball needs to get better and perform better in the non-conference, period. Everything else will solve itself once that is addressed. Trying to game the metrics with more non-conference opponents doesn't mean anything in a vacuum.
 
An interesting subplot to scheduling endeavors is this piece from analytics guy Will Warren that was highlighted on a Michigan fan site. Here's the pull quote from that site that I think is very relevant:

…not playing away from home, as evidenced in bubble discussions and in the committee’s new favored metric, is a huge own goal. Do you want to know what happens to bubble teams that don’t play road games? Well, they don’t make the NCAA Tournament. 19 teams - NINETEEN - of 79 Power Five schools did not play a single road non-conference game last year. That’s a quarter of your sport’s most prominent teams that aren’t touching someone else’s home court until possibly January. ….

The WAB effect is this: you’re #45 Indiana, and this year, you want to play #132 Illinois State. Now, almost always, you would look at this as a home game. Given your status as #45, based on last year’s KenPom numbers, you’re the exact median bubble team. Now, on average, you’d have about an 89% chance of winning this game at home. That represents a potential Wins Above Bubble of +0.11, which equals the delta between the projected win percentage and the actual win number of 1.0. However, a surprise home loss would be a potential Wins Above Bubble loss of -0.89, which could have the capacity to move you down 10 spots in just one night. A win functionally has no effect and maybe moves you up one spot, if that.

Now, try this on for size: you have instead opted to play this game at Illinois State. Applying a fairly standard home-court advantage of three points (also, guessing a good number of Indiana fans would make a 3.5 hour drive), your odds of winning this game are now 73.2%. That’s a real dropoff; you go from about a 1-in-9 chance of losing to 1-in-4. But: you now have a potential WAB of +0.27. That difference of +0.16 would’ve single-handedly moved you from 47th to 44th, ahead of San Diego State, and a loss of -0.73 would have been harmful but only drops you 5-6 spots as opposed to the 10 mentioned earlier.
Essentially, Warren's analysis found that the new "Wins Above Bubble (WAB)" metric was most strongly correlated, by a pretty significant margin, with NCAA Tournament seeding this year. If that becomes the norm, apparently the best way to "hack" that metric (which programs have been doing since the days of the RPI) is to play more of your easy games on the road rather than home.

If that's the case... was Scheyer a few moves ahead of everyone else when he scheduled our contest at Army this fall?!?!?!
 
An interesting subplot to scheduling endeavors is this piece from analytics guy Will Warren that was highlighted on a Michigan fan site. Here's the pull quote from that site that I think is very relevant:


Essentially, Warren's analysis found that the new "Wins Above Bubble (WAB)" metric was most strongly correlated, by a pretty significant margin, with NCAA Tournament seeding this year. If that becomes the norm, apparently the best way to "hack" that metric (which programs have been doing since the days of the RPI) is to play more of your easy games on the road rather than home.

If that's the case... was Scheyer a few moves ahead of everyone else when he scheduled our contest at Army this fall?!?!?!
Problem with that analysis is it assumes the committee uses the same standards every year, and weights them the same, and acts with consistency year over year. They don't. The goalposts are constantly moving.
 
I thought that the reason for the 20 game schedule, which predated conference expansion, was to have an expanded "inventory" of games to sell to ESPN for the current contract. I am curious as to how the reduced schedule affects that contract. Two extra nonconference games would not be a problem if they were both home games. A road game where ESPN has the contract for the other conference, such as with the ACC/SEC Challenge, would not be a problem either. However, a road game with a team in a conference without an ESPN contract would mean one less game for ESPN. How are television rights for neutral site games handled? Is the ACC team designated the home team and thus its media contract governs? ESPN obviously gave its blessing for the reduced schedule and I am sure there is a workaround. I think it benefits them as well as the conference. I like it. I am just curious about the details.
 
How are television rights for neutral site games handled? Is the ACC team designated the home team and thus its media contract governs? ESPN obviously gave its blessing for the reduced schedule and I am sure there is a workaround. I think it benefits them as well as the conference. I like it. I am just curious about the details.
I think Jason (or someone else in DBR authority) said it depends on the contract. CBS is broadcasting the upcoming Duke-AR game in Chicago despite both schools having ESPN-centric contracts. Fox did the Duke-IL game in NYC this year. Duke benefits $$$ from avoiding these games in Cameron despite season ticket holder disgust.
 
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