Duke Football 2025

A lot of this explains why the kids behind the counter at the local store can't make change and can't figure out if you're 21 years old or not.
 
The average number of units for graduation in the US is 20-24; however, most states require only 16-20. When you consider most schools are on some form of 6-8 classes daily (many are 4 x 4 or A/B) resulting in potentially 8 units per year, many students can complete their requirements in less than four years. Some, of course, even attain credit in eighth grade (usually algebra and freshman English). At the same time, schools have often tried to force students to continue to attend after completing those requirements by imposing ridiculous changes on students' schedules. As a former teacher, I have had concerns for many years when the movement to go from six periods to eight took place, increasing the work load by a third and reducing the number of minutes required to earn a unit of credit at the same time. I would say more but there are kids on our lawn.
 
We’re quibbling about the potential academic losses incurred by attending Duke a semester early rather than riding out the final semester of high school? Really?

Entering a semester early provides extra time to graduate within 4.5 years (or maybe allow for a semester or two with a reduced workload), which probably comes in handy given the time constraints of being a semi pro athlete. And the fitness/football advantages are obvious.

It never occurred to me, personally, to graduate early from anything, and I enjoyed the lazy days of 2nd semester senior year, but if my kid were facing the choice, and my kid happened to be a hyper-motivated football player who (somehow) was being recruited to a D1 school, I’d probably suggest they go to college early even if they didn’t pick up a high school diploma (when you get the next degree, nobody’s going to care whether you finished hs).
 
for sure. I just wonder what are they teaching in school if you can afford to leave 5-6 months early?
Well, I would assume there's a pretty dramatic difference when you tell the HS guidance counselor that you're looking for clearance to graduate early so you can enroll at Duke early. Might gain you some credits, versus leaving school early to be a rodeo clown.
 
It never occurred to me, personally, to graduate early from anything, and I enjoyed the lazy days of 2nd semester senior year, but if my kid were facing the choice, and my kid happened to be a hyper-motivated football player who (somehow) was being recruited to a D1 school, I’d probably suggest they go to college early even if they didn’t pick up a high school diploma (when you get the next degree, nobody’s going to care whether you finished hs).
A high school diploma or the equivalent is never going to be waived by admissions. So maybe other people won't care, but Duke will.
 
anyone else notice the festouche eight miles down the road where the unc football GM (being Paid $1.5million/yr) uncorked a beauty of an illiterate tweet responding angrily to assertions that Billy B is having trouble filling out his staff? He insisted the report is both "erronous" and "fabracated."
This led to some nice mockage on Around the Horn last night, making them wonder if unc could not afford any spell check products.
None of the panelists, FWIW, place any credence at all in Bill's vows to stay and be happy at unc. They all said if he could be in the NFL he would be in the NFL. Excellent segment all around.
 
anyone else notice the festouche eight miles down the road where the unc football GM (being Paid $1.5million/yr) uncorked a beauty of an illiterate tweet responding angrily to assertions that Billy B is having trouble filling out his staff? He insisted the report is both "erronous" and "fabracated."
This led to some nice mockage on Around the Horn last night, making them wonder if unc could not afford any spell check products.
None of the panelists, FWIW, place any credence at all in Bill's vows to stay and be happy at unc. They all said if he could be in the NFL he would be in the NFL. Excellent segment all around.
JR “still can’t” Reid
 
anyone else notice the festouche eight miles down the road where the unc football GM (being Paid $1.5million/yr) uncorked a beauty of an illiterate tweet responding angrily to assertions that Billy B is having trouble filling out his staff? He insisted the report is both "erronous" and "fabracated."
This led to some nice mockage on Around the Horn last night, making them wonder if unc could not afford any spell check products.
None of the panelists, FWIW, place any credence at all in Bill's vows to stay and be happy at unc. They all said if he could be in the NFL he would be in the NFL. Excellent segment all around.

This "erronous, completly fabracated story" gets a C- in English... and only because athletes are given a 2 letter bump for signing their name at UNC.

Yes, that means the original grade was a F-.
 
It was announced just hours ago that Bill has brought in 2 more assistant coaches to UNC. If he is eying a return to the NFL he isn't really acting like it (unless this is an elaborate ploy to get his son the head coaching gig, but it seems like screwing over Carolina weeks after taking the job is not a good way to ensure his son gets treated right by UNC).

anyone else notice the festouche eight miles down the road where the unc football GM (being Paid $1.5million/yr) uncorked a beauty of an illiterate tweet responding angrily to assertions that Billy B is having trouble filling out his staff? He insisted the report is both "erronous" and "fabracated."
This led to some nice mockage on Around the Horn last night, making them wonder if unc could not afford any spell check products.
None of the panelists, FWIW, place any credence at all in Bill's vows to stay and be happy at unc. They all said if he could be in the NFL he would be in the NFL. Excellent segment all around.
That's a big if. I almost posted this to the portal thread, which is where @JasonEvans's post above is copied from. Belichick isn't acting like he's eyeing a return to the NFL because there is simply no NFL franchise interested in hiring him. We can all act like that's not the case, but it clearly is. And articles stating [without any attribution or evidence] that x franchise has expressed interest in talking to Belichick are about as meaningful as articles stating [again, without any attribution or evidence] that portal transfer player x is getting $y million from z university. The NFL doesn't want him, so he will be on the UNC sidelines next season. Personally, I think this will prove to be a failed experiment in Chapel Hill two to three years down the road, but we will begin to have some data to assess whether or not things are trending in that direction about 10-12 months from now.
 
A high school diploma or the equivalent is never going to be waived by admissions. So maybe other people won't care, but Duke will.
This is a small issue, but I wonder if it is true that all undergrads come to Duke with a hs diploma.

I knew very smart kids who left high school a year early to attend Duke-equivalent colleges; those colleges didn’t seem to care that those kids didn’t finish their 4 years of hs English. And I know people who didn’t get their college degrees before going to med school. All of those people turned out fine.

More recently, when Flagg, Maluach, Proctor, etc, came to Duke a year early, did Duke admissions care whether they were on track to officially graduate from high school within 3 years? Or do they look at grades and test scores and the student and make a decision about whether they can handle the load? The latter evaluation strikes me as far more meaningful than whether they completed all of their school’s requirements within 3 years. But maybe I’m off base and they really care about that hs diploma…
 
I thought that when a player reclassifies, he actually plans his course work so he can graduate before leaving high school and enters college. Some even goes to summer school to get the necessary grades to graduate before entering college.
 
This is a small issue, but I wonder if it is true that all undergrads come to Duke with a hs diploma.

I knew very smart kids who left high school a year early to attend Duke-equivalent colleges; those colleges didn’t seem to care that those kids didn’t finish their 4 years of hs English. And I know people who didn’t get their college degrees before going to med school. All of those people turned out fine.

More recently, when Flagg, Maluach, Proctor, etc, came to Duke a year early, did Duke admissions care whether they were on track to officially graduate from high school within 3 years? Or do they look at grades and test scores and the student and make a decision about whether they can handle the load? The latter evaluation strikes me as far more meaningful than whether they completed all of their school’s requirements within 3 years. But maybe I’m off base and they really care about that hs diploma…
I suspect that like many things it is a normal requirement that can be waived in appropriate exceptional circumstances, and those circumstances probably apply only to unusual scholarly savants, not athletic savants. I knew a very gifted fellow who graduated from Harvard Law at 22. It is quite possible that his credentials were irregular.
 
Wait. There's a sports team called the Whirlies?
Yeah, Greensboro Grimsley

From wiki:
The school's original colors were purple and gold (circa 1909–10). Because of increasing difficulty in finding matching shades of purple for athletic and band uniforms, the colors were changed—by vote of the student body in March 1951—to navy blue and white.

The mascot was originally the "Purple Whirlwind", adopted in 1921. Local papers, in an attempt to have variety when referring to GHS's teams (and to save space in headlines) came up with the name "Whirlies" in 1941. (Other variations of "Purple Whirlwinds" had been used back to the 1930s.) The name "Whirlies" caught on quickly and was used interchangeably with "Purple Whirlwinds" until the color change in 1951, leaving the original mascot name as "Whirlwinds". Since the late 1950s, "Whirlies" has been used almost exclusively.
 
I suspect that like many things it is a normal requirement that can be waived in appropriate exceptional circumstances, and those circumstances probably apply only to unusual scholarly savants, not athletic savants. I knew a very gifted fellow who graduated from Harvard Law at 22. It is quite possible that his credentials were irregular.
This is a small issue, but I wonder if it is true that all undergrads come to Duke with a hs diploma.

I knew very smart kids who left high school a year early to attend Duke-equivalent colleges; those colleges didn’t seem to care that those kids didn’t finish their 4 years of hs English. And I know people who didn’t get their college degrees before going to med school. All of those people turned out fine.

More recently, when Flagg, Maluach, Proctor, etc, came to Duke a year early, did Duke admissions care whether they were on track to officially graduate from high school within 3 years? Or do they look at grades and test scores and the student and make a decision about whether they can handle the load? The latter evaluation strikes me as far more meaningful than whether they completed all of their school’s requirements within 3 years. But maybe I’m off base and they really care about that hs diploma…
I'm not sure what the requirements are these days but, I believe, in the past Duke required people, including recruited athletes, to have a legitimate high school diploma before they could enroll as Duke students. If I remember correctly, this issue came up when Alex Murphy decided to re-classify (and essentially skip his senior year of high school) and come to Duke a year early (At the urging of the Duke coaches and I think he was a year older than his class indicated and should have then been a senior in high school). At the time, he was a student at my high school alma mater (a private school outside Boston) and apparently that school would not let him "jump ahead" and graduate a year early without fulfilling all of the school's normal academic requirements, so Alex left that private school and enrolled in the local public high school in Rhode Island where his parents lived, and that public school then allowed him to "graduate" with a diploma at what was the end of his junior year. He then enrolled at Duke the next academic year.

I believe you're right here, Mike. The only case that I personally knew of this happening was I had a classmate in high school who was a super genius - unbelievably smart, in almost every subject. He took the SAT's in his sophomore year of high school - two 800's (with apparently no incorrect answers on either the verbal or math parts of the SAT's); five 800 scores on the Achievement tests; and five "5's" on the AP tests he took that year too. During his junior year, he had pretty much done all he could do in high school, so he applied to Harvard, and, although he had not technically graduated from high school at that point, Harvard accepted him (which in those days was very rare at Harvard, mostly because they worried about whether or not younger students would have the emotional maturity to succeed in college) and he skipped his senior year of high school. I believe Harvard essentially let him skip his freshmen year of college (based on his AP scores), so he basically jumped two years a head.
 
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