Duke Football 2025 — the Offseason Thread

King of Defense said:
Stanford's band is just a bunch of Rice wanna-bes.

Re: college admissions -- folks, it's a lottery. I quit doing alumni interviews for Duke because I just didn't see the point any more. I know a kid this year who got into USC, UCLA, Northwestern, a couple more in that realm, and did NOT get into her mom's school. (And was waitlisted at Duke, which made me want to drive down to Durham and scream at some people, but I don't envy them their jobs. How do you decide between 8,000 kids with near-perfect GPAs, 8-10 AP courses, a 1500+ SAT/34+ ACT, a varsity sport or two, and some other talent? I've seen my kids and their friends all go through the process, and there's no shortage of inexplicable outcomes.
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Yup, my kid (who can armpit belch the Star Spangled Banner) who is running children's programming at the Kennedy Center, was also wait-listed. Go figure. (She's serving out her notice at the KC. In another month she's off to Arena Stage, and yes, it's because of Donald Trump (but Arena Stage pays a LOT more.)
 
CameronBlue said:
Yup, my kid (who can armpit belch the Star Spangled Banner) who is running children's programming at the Kennedy Center, was also wait-listed. Go figure. (She's serving out her notice at the KC. In another month she's off to Arena Stage, and yes, it's because of Donald Trump (but Arena Stage pays a LOT more.)
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Arena Stage is awesome. Enjoy, and I hope she gets to do some cool stuff in whatever college she attends.

The good news is that the universities we would've scoffed at when we were all undergrads are now quite good. The top 25 schools in the country obviously can't take everyone who's qualified, so that means the next 25 or next 50 have a pretty smart student body.
 
wichitadevil said:
Wow. The "Duke Football 2025" thread seems to have gone way off the tracks.
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The first college football game was played in 1874 in front of Langdell Hall, on the Harvard Law School campus.

Tons of Dukies go to HLS.

Duke Football is now much better than Harvard and gets to go up against Stanford regularly.

See? It’s all on topic.
 
College admissions have been more random at Duke since Covid. Duke stopped requiring ACT/SAT scores. You can submit them voluntarily and which, if good, merit a check mark. Duke was then going to assess performance of students with and without test scores. With grades high everywhere, it makes the qualified applicant pool much larger and the outcomes more uncertain.
 
sagegrouse said:
College admissions have been more random at Duke since Covid. Duke stopped requiring ACT/SAT scores. You can submit them voluntarily and which, if good, merit a check mark. Duke was then going to assess performance of students with and without test scores. With grades high everywhere, it makes the qualified applicant pool much larger and the outcomes more uncertain.
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Yup. It has really driven up the number of applications. I think at least one full cohort of test optional kids has gone through at this point so they can start evaluating. Many peer schools have reverted and are no longer test optional. I think Duke will likely do the same.

To me it is a basic experiment. Those who didn't submit have lower scores. Theoretically there is an assumed score for these applicants. Or else their application is just being evaluated without regard to that metric. One would think that if admissions wanted to discount the importance of test scores for certain applicants, they could still require test scores and just use their judgement ignore/downplay them when necessary. Otherwise we will continue having this trend of reported test scores asymptotically approaching 1600/36 which is getting ridiculous and is causing a lot of stress for high school students. The testing agencies need to re-center the scores back to how they were in my day (the 90s) where 1500s were extremely rare. And make the APs harder so everyone isn't taking 15 of them and getting all 5s. And get off my lawn (sorry - I'm the parent of a HS student so this is on my mind).

So how do our running backs look this year (trying to get back to topic)?
 
CrazyNotCrazie said:
Yup. It has really driven up the number of applications. I think at least one full cohort of test optional kids has gone through at this point so they can start evaluating. Many peer schools have reverted and are no longer test optional. I think Duke will likely do the same.

To me it is a basic experiment. Those who didn't submit have lower scores. Theoretically there is an assumed score for these applicants. Or else their application is just being evaluated without regard to that metric. One would think that if admissions wanted to discount the importance of test scores for certain applicants, they could still require test scores and just use their judgement ignore/downplay them when necessary. Otherwise we will continue having this trend of reported test scores asymptotically approaching 1600/36 which is getting ridiculous and is causing a lot of stress for high school students. The testing agencies need to re-center the scores back to how they were in my day (the 90s) where 1500s were extremely rare. And make the APs harder so everyone isn't taking 15 of them and getting all 5s. And get off my lawn (sorry - I'm the parent of a HS student so this is on my mind).

So how do our running backs look this year (trying to get back to topic)?
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Very good
 
King of Defense said:
Arena Stage is awesome. Enjoy, and I hope she gets to do some cool stuff in whatever college she attends.

The good news is that the universities we would've scoffed at when we were all undergrads are now quite good. The top 25 schools in the country obviously can't take everyone who's qualified, so that means the next 25 or next 50 have a pretty smart student body.
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It's really quite affirming that the kids today are all so much smarter and the schools they apply to all so much better.
But fwiw I don't buy either of those assertions for a New York second. Among other things, ridiculous grade inflation and the super-scoring of re-normed (down) standardized tests contribute to absurdly misleading data, especially from a longitudinal perspective. Shoot, I'm old enough to remember when it was considered mathematically incoherent for one to score a 4.5 GPA on a 4.0 scale. And remember when every high school had just a single valedictorian?
Yeah, I do confess to being an old crabby guy who would admit the kid who summered at Waffle House before the one who summered in Europe.
Because I appreciate that this comment risks derailing the thread, I promise to respond to replies by private message only.
Now, need more coffee. :cool::mad:
 
Duke828689 said:
I want to know more about Duke Football, not admissions!!
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You likely won't be hearing lots for a couple of months. With the portal closed, the next news making event will be in late July during the ACC Media Days. Once reps leave Charlotte, then we'll finally get down to season prep as practice gets underway.
 
CameronBornAndBred said:
You likely won't be hearing lots for a couple of months. With the portal closed, the next news making event will be in late July during the ACC Media Days. Once reps leave Charlotte, then we'll finally get down to season prep as practice gets underway.
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Would hope for some possible news about a portal commit. We got the O- linemen from South Dakota recently and waiting on the TE from Utah. Still news to be had.

But glad we have the admission thing covered.
 
budwom said:
I brought up the Brower interview earlier, I've done my part, there just isn't ANY info out there now...situation exacerbated by universal paranoia that if a coach dares show or even speak about someone who is playing great, they'll be poached via the Porthole. Expecting info now is like expecting updated injury reports every week.
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Apologies... I was spoofing the infamous Jim Mora reaction to a reporter's question about the playoffs following a Colts loss to the Niners... The humor failed to land—it's still floating around up in the rafters. On the bright side, at least it wasn't shot down by Jordon Hudson... [ducks for cover]
 
CameronBornAndBred said:
You likely won't be hearing lots for a couple of months. With the portal closed, the next news making event will be in late July during the ACC Media Days. Once reps leave Charlotte, then we'll finally get down to season prep as practice gets underway.
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And my thought is to lock this thread as a pre-season one and then open a new 2025 season one that perhaps is more on-topic than an out-of-season one.
 
crote said:
Probably not worth starting a general 2025 football thread over, but Ian Schieffelin is joining the Clemson football team this offseason as a tight end.
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you beat me to it. Should be interesting. I like when guys try things like this. I've long thought that super athletic NCAA basketball players that aren't skilled enough to make the NBA would make excellent soccer goal keeper or volleyball outside hitters. I believe Marshall Plumlee would have been an incredible tight end.
 
nmduke2001 said:
you beat me to it. Should be interesting. I like when guys try things like this. I've long thought that super athletic NCAA basketball players that aren't skilled enough to make the NBA would make excellent soccer goal keeper or volleyball outside hitters. I believe Marshall Plumlee would have been an incredible tight end.
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Antonio Gates and Jimmy Graham are both proof of concept for the power forward to tight end pipeline.
 
I had a whole different impression of the Stanford/Duke comparison. Admittedly my opinion was based on a small sample. When Stanford played us in Wade in 2011 I followed a group from there as they were being shown around campus. I was somewhat amazed at their admiration of Duke’s status and the campus, and glowed with pride at their commentary. They considered Duke at least their peer.
 
got some good new receivers coming in from the porthole, but given the ever expanding Sports Cone of Silence we are unlikely to hear much about them...Cooper (yes) Barkate (Harvard) and Andrel Anthony (Oklahoma) should really help the new look, faster paced, more wide open offense

Barkate was recruited by just about everyone, e.g. Oregon, ND, UCLA, on and on...Anthony initially went to Michigan, recruited by ND and many others...
 
Ol Guff said:
I had a whole different impression of the Stanford/Duke comparison. Admittedly my opinion was based on a small sample. When Stanford played us in Wade in 2011 I followed a group from there as they were being shown around campus. I was somewhat amazed at their admiration of Duke’s status and the campus, and glowed with pride at their commentary. They considered Duke at least their peer.
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Probably not a bad idea to also point out that Stanford's reputation on the West Coast is pretty much unrivaled, though of course there are a lot of other good schools out there....
 
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