Duke Football 2024

gep said:
I think on the victory formation and taking a knee, screwing up and fumbling has gotta be the ultimate in incompetence. Also, when the other team sees this, they almost always back off. But I gotta say that I remember seeing one game at least a few years ago that the one on defense came barreling into the offense victory formation… was seen as sour grapes.
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I've been watching games at WW since 1967 and have seen some impressively incompetent stuff in that period of time....it's still a bit disorienting to see Duke field competitive, competent teams...old wounds heal slowly...
 
budwom said:
I've been watching games at WW since 1967 and have seen some impressively incompetent stuff in that period of time....it's still a bit disorienting to see Duke field competitive, competent teams...old wounds heal slowly...
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I hear you, but I think it's about controlling one's destiny. Bad things can happen in either situation. If you have the ball, you are more in control.
 
budwom said:
ya, we spent some time discussing this at the game...we could and did run out the clock, though can you absolutely know you won't screw up and fumble?
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It was a smart play, and the right play. Too easy to get a player hurt on a kickoff after we score or a defensive player defending the desperation offense for 3 or 4 downs. You rarely get someone hurt in victory formation offense. We won't talk about Larry Csonka fumbling when he played for the NY Giants in the late 70's (when they should have taken a knee...).
 
OZZIE4DUKE said:
It was a smart play, and the right play. Too easy to get a player hurt on a kickoff after we score or a defensive player defending the desperation offense for 3 or 4 downs. You rarely get someone hurt in victory formation offense. We won't talk about Larry Csonka fumbling when he played for the NY Giants in the late 70's (when they should have taken a knee...).
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Thanks for dredging that up. Paterson Plank Joe PIsarcik tried to hand off to Csonka. The offensive coordinator who called the play was fired after the game.

Until the recent troubles, that was the low point for Giants fans.
 
OZZIE4DUKE said:
It was a smart play, and the right play. Too easy to get a player hurt on a kickoff after we score or a defensive player defending the desperation offense for 3 or 4 downs. You rarely get someone hurt in victory formation offense. We won't talk about Larry Csonka fumbling when he played for the NY Giants in the late 70's (when they should have taken a knee...).
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No need to go back that far.....
www.espn.com

Miami doesn't take knee, loses on last-second TD

With the game all but won, Miami fumbled after deciding not to kneel to run out the clock and then lost on a last-second touchdown as Georgia Tech came away with a 23-20 stunner.
www.espn.com www.espn.com
 
Maged said:
Thanks for dredging that up. Paterson Plank Joe PIsarcik tried to hand off to Csonka. The offensive coordinator who called the play was fired after the game.

Until the recent troubles, that was the low point for Giants fans.
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Would you like a video of “Wide Right” to offset it?
 
Maged said:
Thanks for dredging that up. Paterson Plank Joe PIsarcik tried to hand off to Csonka. The offensive coordinator who called the play was fired after the game.

Until the recent troubles, that was the low point for Giants fans.
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In Philly, they still refer to that play as "The Miracle at the Meadowlands." Herman Edwards is forever memorialized for recovering that fumble and returning it for a touchdown to win the game. The Eagles went on to make the playoffs that year and 2 years later their first Super Bowl appearance. That fumble contributed to the now-standard quarterback kneel to end those type of games.
 
Maged said:
Thanks for dredging that up. Paterson Plank Joe PIsarcik tried to hand off to Czonka. The offensive coordinator who called the play was fired after the game.

Until the recent troubles, that was the low point for Giants fans.
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My dad and I were at that game when I was a kid. We were headed down the stairs from the upper deck to beat the traffic and saw it happen. I thought my dad was going to have a heart attack right there on the stairs.
 
DoubleBlue said:
In Philly, they still refer to that play as "The Miracle at the Meadowlands." Herman Edwards is forever memorialized for recovering that fumble and returning it for a touchdown to win the game. The Eagles went on to make the playoffs that year and 2 years later their first Super Bowl appearance. That fumble contributed to the now-standard quarterback kneel to end those type of games.
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You're welcome. I guess.
 
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