Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15
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Lol... Understood. Fair point as well.
2025 Men's Basketball Recruiting
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DavidBenAkiva
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Ah, the annual summer "growth spurt" for incoming freshmen.
Here was Khamenia and the Boozer twins from 6 weeks ago. He's no taller than Cameron Boozer, who is 6'9".
proelitedota
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Eyeballing height from a skewed perspective is hard to do. We need cinderblocks.
soflabluedevil
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But special rules for athletes in all other circumstances are fine? This will be simply another carve out preference for athletes just like they have always, and will always get special treatment.
scottdude8
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Source? This is quite interesting if true… but “sounds like” is not a source
Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15
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I understand and it's a fair point. But when it comes to human rights, it hits a bit differently.
FerryFor50
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Source: I have seen him standing next to J-Rob. He’s just as tall.Source? This is quite interesting if true… but “sounds like” is not a source
So, likely closer to 6’8” (for now)
DBKilby
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I was at the Hoop Summit and I thought he was in the 6'7 range. He was noticeably shorter than Boozer and Ament. He was very close to Dybantsa.
brevity
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Jon Chepkevich of DraftExpress reports that the Louisville Cardinals have added a third international player to their freshman class: Vangelis Zougris.
I looked for some film on Vangelis, but all I could find was this training video.
I looked for some film on Vangelis, but all I could find was this training video.
Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15
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Is it my imagination or are more schools looking at international players than ever before? Seems college may be catching up the the NBA on this development, and I would assume that NIL makes it substantially more appealing than it once was.
AGDukesky
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It’s almost like something recently changed but the reasons I can find are NIL…
it's also another way to get a big, mature body as opposed to just frosh...the Greek guy above is 21 years old.
SkyBrickey
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It's definitely happening in a big way now. Most all of Illinois' rotation is international players. There will be some interesting stats/graphics popping up early in the season on the number of international starters now in CBB.
Louisville could be a big problem this season. If these two international big guys they are bringing in - one from France, one from Greece - turn out to be solid ACC players, they could really push us again for the title.
Unfortunately, I can't remember where I read it, but NIL in college is more lucrative for many of these players than playing in some of the international leagues.
I thought international athletes on student visas could not earn NIL in the U.S. Is that out dated?
DonerKebab
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He is a big body, and his accomplishments are a mixed bag. At senior level, he is not that good. At his age group he was pretty good, probably because he is 260lbs. I think he will do ok. As a senior he will be 25??
the 2023 Under-20 EuroBasket, he averaged 14.4 points, 11.1 rebounds, 2.1 assists, 1.9 steals, and 1.0 blocks per game.[16] As a result of his play, he was named to the competition's All-Star Five.[17]
Zougris won another bronze medal with Greece at the 2024 FIBA Under-20 EuroBasket. He averaged 11.6 points, 8.3 rebounds, 1.7 assists, 1.7 steals, and 1.4 blocks per game at the tournament.[18] At the conclusion of the competition, he was named to the All-Star Five.[19]
the 2023 Under-20 EuroBasket, he averaged 14.4 points, 11.1 rebounds, 2.1 assists, 1.9 steals, and 1.0 blocks per game.[16] As a result of his play, he was named to the competition's All-Star Five.[17]
Zougris won another bronze medal with Greece at the 2024 FIBA Under-20 EuroBasket. He averaged 11.6 points, 8.3 rebounds, 1.7 assists, 1.7 steals, and 1.4 blocks per game at the tournament.[18] At the conclusion of the competition, he was named to the All-Star Five.[19]
ChillinDuke
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The thing I don't fully understand (and probably should by now) is why are these international kids that are playing professional ball in Europe considered college eligible? Shouldn't they be pros already? It's kind of insane logic that a 21 year old is a freshman with four years of eligibility.
I guess I'm not shocked given how wild westy it is out there right now. But this feels like the latest hack in team building. Until someone just grabs a guy fading out of the NBA. Maybe we can bring back Mason Plumlee next year. Because why not?
- Chillin
I guess I'm not shocked given how wild westy it is out there right now. But this feels like the latest hack in team building. Until someone just grabs a guy fading out of the NBA. Maybe we can bring back Mason Plumlee next year. Because why not?
- Chillin
JasonEvans
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Well, it is illegal to earn money if you come into the states on a student visa. I think it may be possible now that these guys are coming to the U.S. on a work visa as a professional basketball player.
I agree that it feels like the system needs some controls and reforms. There really is nothing stopping a college team from just buying the best team in Spain or Italy and having them enroll as students at your university.