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I agree the topic is likely doomed on this board, but I think it's quite possible there will be a sports impact.

Certainly there's already a sports impact at Harvard.
Exactly. And to illustrate this, does anybody know if Dame Sarr already got his student visa? Because based on today’s news, if he hasn’t, it might be quite some time before he can even start the process.
 
Exactly. And to illustrate this, does anybody know if Dame Sarr already got his student visa? Because based on today’s news, if he hasn’t, it might be quite some time before he can even start the process.

"The Trump administration is weighing requiring all foreign students applying to study in the United States to undergo social media vetting — a significant expansion of previous such efforts, according to a cable obtained by POLITICO.

In preparation for such required vetting, the administration is ordering U.S. Embassies and consular sections to pause scheduling new interviews for such student visa applicants, according to the cable, dated Tuesday and signed by Secretary of State Marco Rubio."

 
"The Trump administration is weighing requiring all foreign students applying to study in the United States to undergo social media vetting — a significant expansion of previous such efforts, according to a cable obtained by POLITICO.

In preparation for such required vetting, the administration is ordering U.S. Embassies and consular sections to pause scheduling new interviews for such student visa applicants, according to the cable, dated Tuesday and signed by Secretary of State Marco Rubio."


I wouldn't worry about this. If this pause goes on for too long there will be a quick injunction.
 
Unlikely. Courts have traditionally given great deference to administrations when it comes to immigration enforcement.
Yes. I would rely more on special pleadings to Trump & Co. for relief on a few individual cases in the NBA and college hoops. Special pleading worked for baseball's commish -- all it cost him was to make it possible for Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe to be eligible for election to the HOF.

I believe there may be a role here for dual-hatted Adam Silver. What cha' think?
 
Yes. I would rely more on special pleadings to Trump & Co. for relief on a few individual cases in the NBA and college hoops. Special pleading worked for baseball's commish -- all it cost him was to make it possible for Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe to be eligible for election to the HOF.

I believe there may be a role here for dual-hatted Adam Silver. What cha' think?
No offense to anyone, but creating special rules for athletes feels like a really bad idea in this situation.

Are international college athletes really more deserving than other international college students? I understand that's the bias this board skews towards, but I'm not sure I can get behind a loophole that protects future basketball players at the expense of future doctors and engineers.
 
Unlikely. Courts have traditionally given great deference to administrations when it comes to immigration enforcement.
Yes--and while courts have shown less deference recently in cases involving arrests and deportation, that is quite a different situation from people applying for visas, where there is a lot of discretion to decide who may enter the country in the first place.
 
No offense to anyone, but creating special rules for athletes feels like a really bad idea in this situation.

Are international college athletes really more deserving than other international college students? I understand that's the bias this board skews towards, but I'm not sure I can get behind a loophole that protects future basketball players at the expense of future doctors and engineers.
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I have the feeling I will be using this graphic a lot more frequently.
 
No offense to anyone, but creating special rules for athletes feels like a really bad idea in this situation.

Are international college athletes really more deserving than other international college students? I understand that's the bias this board skews towards, but I'm not sure I can get behind a loophole that protects future basketball players at the expense of future doctors and engineer
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No offense to anyone, but creating special rules for athletes feels like a really bad idea in this situation.

Are international college athletes really more deserving than other international college students? I understand that's the bias this board skews towards, but I'm not sure I can get behind a loophole that protects future basketball players at the expense of future doctors and engineers.
In response I would say that pro athletes from other countries have always gotten a lot of help getting visas and work permits to enter the US. From their leagues and teams.

Same is true, I expect, for executives and scientists at Apple, Google, Meta, etc.
 
As I read this, what the US is temporarily pausing, is the scheduling of new student visa appointments, as of Tuesday. If a student had already scheduled their visa interview before Tuesday, the appointment will go forward.

Hopefully, Sarr already has a visa, or at a minimum, had already scheduled his interview before Tuesday (which seems logical to me). Just wanted to make sure we are discussing the facts.

 
In response I would say that pro athletes from other countries have always gotten a lot of help getting visas and work permits to enter the US. From their leagues and teams.

Same is true, I expect, for executives and scientists at Apple, Google, Meta, etc.
I know baseball players used their talents to get out of Cuba, among other stories. But playing politics with the international student body of our colleges and universities while making exceptions for those who excel at revenue sports sure feela gross to me.
 
I didn't realize discussing the possible legal outcomes of legal scenarios around injunctions that directly related to our basketball team and university violated board rules. Should we take that to off topic? Because I'll be happy to!

As I read this, what the US is temporarily pausing, is the scheduling of new student visa appointments, as of Tuesday. If a student had already scheduled their visa interview before Tuesday, the appointment will go forward.

Hopefully, Sarr already has a visa, or at a minimum, had already scheduled his interview before Tuesday (which seems logical to me). Just wanted to make sure we are discussing the facts.


Also, since Sarr is a citizen of a country with the Visa Waiver Program (VWP), he can stay for up to 90 days per entry. So there is a way for Sarr to practice and play as long as two conditions below are met:

1. He leaves the US every 90 days.
2. He gets NCAA approval to be eligible for basketball without a student visa.

Obviously, that would be the worst-case scenario, so let's hope he either gets his appointment or this pausing is lifted soon.
 
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I know baseball players used their talents to get out of Cuba, among other stories. But playing politics with the international student body of our colleges and universities while making exceptions for those who excel at revenue sports sure feela gross to me.
Do you think college athletes get admission preference over other applicants, foreign and 'xx'xxxxxxxxxxxx strike this - it's just an argument.
 
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