2025 Duke Football Recruiting

OZZIE4DUKE said:
In 2023 they gave away to students $100, $200, $300 and $1000 cash in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th quarters (progressively larger amounts) to keep the students at the game. In 2024 they gave students $250 in the 2nd and 4th quarters. It seems to work. And having a winning football team certainly helps!View attachment 18838View attachment 18838
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I assume those amounts were not given to all students? Did they have some sort of lottery, based on ticket numbers?
 
luvdahops said:
This year was pushed down by weak crowds (<20k) for the Elon and UConn games, plus a lower than expected (or at least hoped for) 22,462 for the home finale against Virginia Tech thanks in part to unseasonably cold weather and an 8pm kickoff. We had crowds of 30K+ for UNC (sell out), FSU and SMU. YMMV, but I think the Devils Deck was a good addition, both as an in-game option and for the TV visuals. Definitely trending the right way, especially student attendance, as noted by chrishoke above.
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I think it was actually very seasonable. It was beautiful during the day, near 60, and then dropped into the 40s as the sun went down. That's pretty expected for late November. Having the game at 8PM instead of 1 or 3 hurt for sure.
 
In 2023 the Blue Devil seemed to choose the winner. This year it was the chick they hired as a game day publicist/on field announcer who appeared to choose the winner.

I wish she didn't have such a loud, squeaky voice - it was very annoying. Now get off of my lawn!
 
CameronBornAndBred said:
I think it was actually very seasonable. It was beautiful during the day, near 60, and then dropped into the 40s as the sun went down. That's pretty expected for late November. Having the game at 8PM instead of 1 or 3 hurt for sure.
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It was cold. The Deans left in the second quarter. They've never done that before.
 
OZZIE4DUKE said:
In 2023 the Blue Devil seemed to choose the winner. This year it was the chick they hired as a game day publicist/on field announcer who appeared to choose the winner.

I wish she didn't have such a loud, squeaky voice - it was very annoying. Now get off of my lawn!
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Are you talking about the social media personality they hired over the summer? She's there to help increase the visibility of the team and be hot. I guess she accomplished that. I did find that an interesting move to boost the teams social media profile.
 
HoKogan said:
Are you talking about the social media personality they hired over the summer? She's there to help increase the visibility of the team and be hot. I guess she accomplished that. I did find that an interesting move to boost the teams social media profile.
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Yup, that's her. I'm not her target market!1733422139760.gif
 
I guess you guys are talking about Rachel DeMita? I am usually skeptical about hires like her, but I really do think she has brought some new enthusiasm to football games, not something a geezer like me is likely to say..plus she has taken a bunch of the air time from Scoreboard Man who really can be loud and annoying, so I'm all for her presence...same for Devils Deck, I think that's a good thing. Efforts are being made. Hopefully the improved level of football gets the attention of area residents who are almost always slow to warm to Duke....
 
OZZIE4DUKE said:
It was cold. The Deans left in the second quarter. They've never done that before.
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We've not had a night game as our home closer before, at least not recently.
I looked it up, the average temp for November for Durham is 51, with a high of 58 and a low of 42. That was pretty much dead on for that day.
 
Skydog said:
Duke has 27 recruits with an estimated average NIL package of 75k. Mathing says we have spent $2.025 mil total on NIL. By comparison the top 3 classes (Texas, Oregon and Alabama) had total NILs of $5-6 mil and averages from $215k - 290k.
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I don't believe that On3 has that good of a handle on what recruits are being paid in NIL. I think they are estimating in the most general of ways and are likely wildly inaccurate in some cases.

I mean, anyone who thinks the Texas and Bama classes are making between $5-6 million is crazy. It is far, far, far north of that. The #1 recruit, Bryce Underwood, that Michigan recently flipped from LSU supposedly got $10 million all by himself (my bet is that is somewhat inflated).
 
JasonEvans said:
I don't believe that On3 has that good of a handle on what recruits are being paid in NIL. I think they are estimating in the most general of ways and are likely wildly inaccurate in some cases.

I mean, anyone who thinks the Texas and Bama classes are making between $5-6 million is crazy. It is far, far, far north of that. The #1 recruit, Bryce Underwood, that Michigan recently flipped from LSU supposedly got $10 million all by himself (my bet is that is somewhat inflated).
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Call me naive, would a school pay a high school senior football player $10 million? Judging high school football talent is much harder than judging high school basketball players who play AAU tournaments all over the country. What a risky bet.
 
TheDevilMadeMeDoIt said:
Call me naive, would a school pay a high school senior football player $10 million? Judging high school football talent is much harder than judging high school basketball players who play AAU tournaments all over the country. What a risky bet.
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Yeah, we all know that an 18 year old will surely handle a 10 million dollar windfall like an adult......and not gonna cause any problems in a locker room of other teen agers....this is gonna be great.
 
TheDevilMadeMeDoIt said:
Call me naive, would a school pay a high school senior football player $10 million? Judging high school football talent is much harder than judging high school basketball players who play AAU tournaments all over the country. What a risky bet.
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Wow just reading that number gives me whiplash. In the span of 3+ years we’ve gone from ostensibly paying players tuition and board to paying unproven recruits 10M? How do sports and academics continue to coexist on a college campus? They’ve become fully detached.
 
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Let's say that $10 million is really $5 million. Does that set the bar for every top 5 star skill position player? Is next year's top receiver and RB going to hold out for $6 million, knowing that it's an arms race? How is that sustainable?
 
Maged said:
Let's say that $10 million is really $5 million. Does that set the bar for every top 5 star skill position player? Is next year's top receiver and RB going to hold out for $6 million, knowing that it's an arms race? How is that sustainable?
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Agree, but happening in all other “popular” sports. Soto will apparently sign a $700 mill contract soon and he was 3rd most productive MLB player last season.

Oops, just checked latest news and now projected at $750 mill. That escalated quickly😀
 
CameronBlue said:
Wow just reading that number gives me whiplash. In the span of 3+ years we’ve gone from ostensibly paying players tuition and board to paying unproven recruits 10M? How do sports and academics continue to coexist on a college campus? They’ve become fully detached.
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This. And that detachment will put some fan support at risk. I know mileage varies, but some of us watch because of the name on the front of the jersey, not the back. Once Duke starts fielding the best team it can buy without any true relationship with the school itself then I'm out.
 
arnie said:
Agree, but happening in all other “popular” sports. Soto will apparently sign a $700 mill contract soon and he was 3rd most productive MLB player last season.

Oops, just checked latest news and now projected at $750 mill. That escalated quickly😀
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Sure, but the MLB has caps and taxes that keep league play competitive, whereas college sports is just the wild west. Moreover, why should I watch minor league football or basketball if its association with my school is simply commercial?
 
JasonEvans said:
I don't believe that On3 has that good of a handle on what recruits are being paid in NIL. I think they are estimating in the most general of ways and are likely wildly inaccurate in some cases.

I mean, anyone who thinks the Texas and Bama classes are making between $5-6 million is crazy. It is far, far, far north of that. The #1 recruit, Bryce Underwood, that Michigan recently flipped from LSU supposedly got $10 million all by himself (my bet is that is somewhat inflated).
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Was that reported payout to Underwood $10 million a year? Or did they structure it where they guaranteed him $10 million over the minimum of three years that he has to be in college? One would think that schools would structure payments this way to improve the chances of retention. Obviously, another school could still come in and outbid for year two and three, but it wouldn't be too hard to create a contract with deferred comp, clawbacks, etc. to minimize the probability of transferring.

The fact that this is an issue that is being considered and discussed drives me batty, but that is a topic for another thread.
 
JasonEvans said:
I don't believe that On3 has that good of a handle on what recruits are being paid in NIL. I think they are estimating in the most general of ways and are likely wildly inaccurate in some cases.

I mean, anyone who thinks the Texas and Bama classes are making between $5-6 million is crazy. It is far, far, far north of that. The #1 recruit, Bryce Underwood, that Michigan recently flipped from LSU supposedly got $10 million all by himself (my bet is that is somewhat inflated).
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I agree with your general point - the NIL estimates should be taken eith a big grain (oxymoron?) of salt. But note that Bryce’s supposed $10 mil was for his entire stay at Michigan, not for his first year. I imagine a lot of the other big NIL #’s thrown out in the media are multi-year packages as well. OTOH the NIL estimates I cited were for year 1 of the new recruiting class I believe. But again they may be way off. I have no idea.
 
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