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taiw93 said:
Found the below thread from one of the (non-Duke) 247 guys re: Murphy. Interesting if true.
https://twitter.com/x/status/1866544870636261641
https://twitter.com/x/status/1866546105741349092
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Look, the Cover 2 Pod has two insightful folks on it. Those are Bud and Tom Rinaldi. Chip is complete filler (not just saying that bc he’s a UNC alum). Bud does have real insight and genuine connections it appears in the CFB world. Honestly, he is a believable and trustworthy source in my experience. That said, he did make Duke -5.5 season win total one of, if not his biggest, lock of the year call. And he has made many comments on how he doesn’t think we’re good despite our record, which I think are biased by his open disdain for the ACC (given his status as an extremely, extremely proud FSU alum). But if Bud is saying this, I believe it

Though for those looking for good CFB content, I’d recommend the College Football Enquirer (Yahoo’s pod with Dan Wetzel, Pat Forde, Ross Dellinger) podcast over Cover 2 (CBS’ pod with Chip Patterson, Danny Kanell, Tom Rinaldi, Bud Elliott) or Cover 3 (Athlon Sports’ pod with Braden Gall, Steven Lassen).
 
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pokeresq said:
I have no idea what the best approach will be best for Duke in building teams every year, but trust our collective has some smart people working on literal and figurative game plans.
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Figure out if Duke is a AA or AAA program, and money ball that to death, accepting our role as minor league, until no one shows up or watches us at all streaming, along with 65% of the colleges in the country....and we're down to just 50 or 60 teams in CFB. And hope we can "Butler" our way to CBB relevance all the while.
 
HereBeforeCoachK said:
Figure out if Duke is a AA or AAA program, and money ball that to death, accepting our role as minor league, until no one shows up or watches us at all streaming, along with 65% of the colleges in the country....and we're down to just 50 or 60 teams in CFB. And hope we can "Butler" our way to CBB relevance all the while.
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Duke has more money to spend than you imply.
Like it or not, we now have a player market, so prices (that's what they are) are going to go up and down.
 
Spurning is not the issue. It's now a market, values go up and down...I do not think the view that he "spurned" Duke is going to prove to be correct at all. Wait for the story.
 
Curious if I go back and look at last year’s Riley Leonard thread if there is this much disillusion and animosity. But looks like we have a plan. So that’s good.
 
A-Tex Devil said:
Curious if I go back and look at last year’s Riley Leonard thread if there is this much disillusion and animosity. But looks like we have a plan. So that’s good.
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Knock yourself out: Riley Leonard transfers to Notre Dame

In some ways, there's more disillusionment and animosity last year because the transfer ended Leonard's 3 years of development/cool story/representation of the team and university, and it coincided with Mike Elko's departure.

I'm interested -- but not enough to research it myself -- in learning if the people who said they were done with college football last year stuck to their resolution, or came crawling back.
 
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This is not a word that should appear in this thread. "College" sports is a business now (and has been for a while) and there are valid business reasons for everything going down in this arena today. You may hate these reasons, as frankly I do, but if one imputes such intent on the behalf of anybody entering the portal or otherwise leaving early then one is almost certainly posting from a position of ignorance.
 
brevity said:
I'm interested -- but not enough to research it myself -- in learning if the people who said they were done with college football last year stuck to their resolution, or came crawling back.
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If you want case studies ... I announced years ago I was through with college basketball. This was some time after the NCAA announced it was powerless to impose any penalties at all on the cheating bustards down the road. My interest in what was for a long time my favorite spectator sport had been on the wane for quite a while before that, but that was the last straw. I have not watched a single Duke basketball game since then, a span of years that will reach a decade before many more are up.

I have continued to watch football since then, but rationalized it by the belief (possibly mistaken) that the academic qualities of the Duke football program were still head-and-shoulders above those of the bulk of the other schools (I cannot say I believe that of Duke bball now, but again it is possible I misspeak). College football is now screwing the pooch to such an extent that I might well lose my interest in it as well; I need some time to reflect on that. And I have to say that my initial strong interest in the Gator bowl has largely evaporated.
 
brevity said:
Knock yourself out: Riley Leonard transfers to Notre Dame

In some ways, there's more disillusionment and animosity last year because the transfer ended Leonard's 3 years of development/cool story/representation of the team and university, and it coincided with Mike Elko's departure.

I'm interested -- but not enough to research it myself -- in learning if the people who said they were done with college football last year stuck to their resolution, or came crawling back.
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Riley still showed up to practice and games and the bowl game even after he announced his decision. My understanding is he still has friends on the team, is well thought of and is still supportive of Duke football. He made a choice for his own future and given the current environment and getting a 3rd HC and OC chosen for him, he made the choice himself.
Losing Leonard hurt because he felt like Duke Football's first actual star, somebody that the average fan would know. I don't think we've ever had one in the time I've followed the program. Note that I said star, not good or even great player, Duke has had those before.
In the end I watched probably more ND football this season just to see how he'd do and how I'd react. Would I embrace shadenfreude when he played badly like in the NIU game? Turns out no, I didn't want Leonard to crash and burn because I felt it made us look like frauds, like what is good for Duke Football, isn't actually really that good. Instead its better that he was an under recruited star player that Duke discovered and helped develop.
Murphy's situation seems to be a lot weirder the more were finding out. I assumed he'd stay because he found a P4 program tht worked for him, you can get to the NFL from Duke, its been proven many times. So my first guess was Murphy wants to play for a bigger program since he had a solid season here, he was more likely leaving than not. Now it seems like it may not be the case, but the whole pay thing seems odd to me as well. The Tulane QB is going to be more expensive since more people will be after him. This is already more confusing than I think anyone ever thought it would be.
 
I have to admit I don't get excited for basketball and football like I used to. Duke basketball went from 3–4-year players that I came to know. Most graduated and loved the program. Then we went to one-and-done players that never unpacked their bags. I continued my high interest even then. But then came the Portal or Free Agency and my high interest went to medium interest. I record all Duke football and basketball games, and I often watch the games being recorded if they begin by 7 PM. I watch the late games next morning.

GoDuke!
 
pokeresq said:
Bud may well be correct about our NIL collective offering a pay cut. Murphy was 11th in Espn's Acc qb rating, so below average and likely the definition of replacement level player. It would be very smart to Moneyball in early years and spend our NIL $ on undervalued assets. Murphy likely may be viewed by random rich guys writing checks as better than his actual onfield performance, so he may be overvalued.
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This may sound like sour grapes but if felt like there were many games this season where we won in spite of Murphy and not because of him. I can recall many in-game threads in which our fans felt it was time to give Loftis or Beilin a chance, particularly after our regular slow starts. We did overperform in winning 9 games and Murphy had some great moments, but I can't help but feel he wasn't worth whatever amount we were paying him.
 
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