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[Phredd3]

Utah is one of the 11 states I have not yet visited.

Moab is within easy driving distance of a whole bunch of National Parks. Arches, Canyonlands, Capitol Reef, Canyons of the Ancients, Mesa Verde (those last two across the border into Colorado) - it's a virtual treasure trove of the Desert Southwest. Even Bryce is a four-hour drive. It's very much worth a trip.

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

Alaska
Arizona
Idaho
Iowa
Minnesota
Montana
Nebraska
New Mexico
North Dakota
South Dakota
Wyoming

Oops, Utah is one of the 12 states I haven't visited.

Ooh. You are missing some good ones!

Not a fan of mountains?

[Bostondevil]

Ooh. You are missing some good ones!

Not a fan of mountains?

I love the Appalachians.

It's more opportunity and the fact that for ~20 years, the only vacations I took involved bringing my kids to see their grandparents. I did get to cross off both Colorado and Nevada for family events but none of the family lives in those other states nor have they decided to get married there.

[wilson]

Alaska
Arizona
Idaho
Iowa
Minnesota
Montana
Nebraska
New Mexico
North Dakota
South Dakota
Wyoming

Oops, Utah is one of the 12 states I haven't visited.

Quite a few personal faves on this list. You've got some exciting destinations ahead if you should ever choose to complete the list.

[ClemmonsDevil]

What are the other 10?
I must be clear: Utah is actually a beautiful place, but I feel an abiding weirdness there that I can't put my finger on, so I prefer to just be outside doing something adventure-y when I go there.

Ok. This is the right take. I sort of get that too. I'm just not very nice and I enjoy the unease I inspire in others.

[ClemmonsDevil]

we’re also very nice people —.

I assume your wife is anyway.

[bundabergdevil]

I assume your wife is anyway.

Halo effect.

[aimo]

Do we know Wilson and Aimo aren't the same person? I like how feisty they are.

I mentioned things I LIKED in SLC. I did not say, in any way, that I disliked Utah.

He's a boy, I'm a girl.

I LOVE bell peppers.

I do not have Kermit shoes, though I would very much like a pair.


I will have to admit that I am not a fan of sour beer or TLC, so . . .

[Bostondevil]

Quite a few personal faves on this list. You've got some exciting destinations ahead if you should ever choose to complete the list.

If we remove places that I have lived from the list, my personal faves are Vermont and Maine.

[ClemmonsDevil]

or TLC, so . . .

Sometimes I think we have turned a corner in our relationship...and then you say this.

[ClemmonsDevil]

If we remove places that I have lived from the list, my personal faves are Vermont and Maine.

I have never been to a bad state. Nebraska and Iowa aren't my absolute faves, but I have had some amazing times there and have dear friends in both states. Makes me really love going there.

[wilson]

If we remove places that I have lived from the list, my personal faves are Vermont and Maine.

I think my top 5, in alphabetical order, would be:

• California (say what you will about the cities, especially LA, but wow...such diverse natural beauty in every direction at every turn, it seems)
• Colorado (never stops being breathtaking, and I'll never stop visiting very regularly)
• North Carolina (soft spot for family roots, our shared rooting interest, and an underrated array of natural beauty...kind of a poor man's California from mountains to shore)
• South Dakota (#1 on my "underrated" list...the Black Hills are spiritually beautiful)
• Wyoming (Yellowstone + Tetons are enough on their own to get this one on the list)

Honorable mention to Montana and Hawaii, plus Florida south of Tampa.

[aimo]

Sometimes I think we have turned a corner in our relationship...and then you say this.

I did recently post that I bought a Grateful Dead-opoly game, so that should have clued you in to my musical leanings.

[ClemmonsDevil]

I did recently post that I bought a Grateful Dead-opoly game, so that should have clued you in to my musical leanings.

I hate R & B generally, but love 2 of their songs.

[OldPhiKap]

I did recently post that I bought a Grateful Dead-opoly game, so that should have clued you in to my musical leanings.

Jerry never chased waterfalls.

[wilson]

Jerry never chased waterfalls.

A box of rain > a waterfall anyway.

[bundabergdevil]

Jerry never chased waterfalls.

Just washed his hands in muddy waters…

[Bostondevil]

I think my top 5, in alphabetical order, would be:

• California (say what you will about the cities, especially LA, but wow...such diverse natural beauty in every direction at every turn, it seems)
• Colorado (never stops being breathtaking, and I'll never stop visiting very regularly)
• North Carolina (soft spot for family roots, our shared rooting interest, and an underrated array of natural beauty...kind of a poor man's California from mountains to shore)
• South Dakota (#1 on my "underrated" list...the Black Hills are spiritually beautiful)
• Wyoming (Yellowstone + Tetons are enough on their own to get this one on the list)

Honorable mention to Montana and Hawaii, plus Florida south of Tampa.

Natural beauty seems to be the primary trait in your ranking system. Although I consider it, it is not the primary trait in my personal ranking system. Cities do matter to me.

BD's top 5 favorite American cities in alphabetical order (over 600,000 population):

Boston
Chicago
New York
San Francisco
Washington DC

BD's top 5 favorite American cities in alphabetical order (200,000 - 600,000 population)

Atlanta
Durham, NC
Honolulu
Madison, WI
New Orleans

BD's top 10 favorite American cities/towns in alphabetical order (under 200,000 population)

Beaufort, SC
Burlington, VT
Crested Butte, CO
Eugene, OR
Monterey, CA
Portland, ME
Portsmouth, NH
Saratoga Springs, NY
Savannah, GA
Williamsburg, VA


BD's favorite American small towns (population under 10,000)

Kenova, WV
Nag's Head, NC
North Conway, NH
Williamstown, MA
Any coastal town in MA/NH/ME from Cape Ann all the way up to Bar Harbor


BD's top 10 favorite world cities/towns in alphabetical order

Bourton on the Water, Gloucestershire, England
Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island, Canada
Edinburgh, Scotland
Dinan, Brittany, France
London, England
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Paris, France
Reykjavik, Iceland
San Melo, Brittany, France
Salzburg, Austria

[wilson]

Natural beauty seems to be the primary trait in your ranking system. Although I consider it, it is not the primary trait in my personal ranking system. Cities do matter to me.

BD's top 5 favorite American cities in alphabetical order (over 600,000 population):

Boston
Chicago
New York
San Francisco
Washington DC

BD's top 5 favorite American cities in alphabetical order (200,000 - 600,000 population)

Atlanta
Durham, NC
Honolulu
Madison, WI
New Orleans

BD's top 10 favorite American cities/towns in alphabetical order (under 200,000 population)

Beaufort, SC
Burlington, VT
Crested Butte, CO
Eugene, OR
Monterey, CA
Portland, ME
Portsmouth, NH
Saratoga Springs, NY
Savannah, GA
Williamsburg, VA


BD's favorite American small towns (population under 10,000)

Kenova, WV
Nag's Head, NC
North Conway, NH
Williamstown, MA
Any coastal town in MA/NH/ME from Cape Ann all the way up to Bar Harbor


BD's top 10 favorite world cities/towns in alphabetical order

Bourton on the Water, Gloucestershire, England
Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island, Canada
Edinburgh, Scotland
Dinan, Brittany, France
London, England
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Paris, France
Reykjavik, Iceland
San Melo, Brittany, France
Salzburg, Austria

Love this list, and I like cities too. It's just that in my 50-state travels, they've only been a fraction of what I've sought out.
Off the cuff, here are my favorite cities:

U.S.

• Atlanta (duh)
• Austin, TX (maybe not in the summer, though)
• Charleston, SC (but lordy, you can have pretty much the entire rest of that state)
• Chicago
• New York

World

• Tokyo

• London
• Paris
• Singapore

Tokyo is the city of all cities, and everyone else is playing for distant second.

[ClemmonsDevil]

Favorite cities:
Boston
Seattle
DC
Miami