Thanks J-Gold. Best wishes for a successful transfer year. While at Duke you did yourself proud, and you did Duke proud.
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Why does preseason ranking matter? We don't hang banners for preseason ranking. Where were we ranked preseason this year? At the end, we were not even in "others receiving votes." I certainly hope we have a high post-season ranking. I think there has been a preseason default to rank Duke high because Coach K. But I frankly would be disappointed to see us in the Top 5 or 10 pre-season. I would rather we earned it on the court.
And just to be clear, best wishes to Jordan. He "exceeded expectations" and then some. Without intending disrespect, he is what he is. So glad he played for us, will never forget the Louisville comeback, but he is not the reincarnation of Bobby Hurley. It would have been nice to have his experience next year. I really don't think this move says anything about Trevor Keels or anything else. I think it says Jordan Goldwire wants to go in another direction in the next phase of his life. Good for him. And I wish him well.[/QUOTE]
Thankfully, this isn't college football. Preseason rankings are a beauty pageant. In football, you have to start high to end high. Basketball is much more of a meritocracy. A high preseason ranking might assist you as a true bubble team trying to get into the tournament, but by the end, the last team standing has earned their way there.
A rare 4 year player in Cameron these days. I'll miss him, and will also enjoy following wherever his game takes him. One of the most memorable "sparks" in recent history. (Helps that he gave us so many memories.) Best wishes JG!
Q "Why do you like Duke, you didn't even go there." A "Because my art school didn't have a basketball team."
This year’s Duke doesn’t matter to next year’s opportunity. We are not going 13-11 and 9-9 in conference next year. And honestly we weren’t that bad this year, just a bit unlucky in close games.
I meant either a lower/bottom-tier power-conference school (like a Wake, Georgia, Vanderbilt) or a mid-major.
Good luck to JGold. A great defender who made himself an important rotation and sometimes starter for Duke for four years. I will miss him.
We really weren’t. We played like a top-40 team, we just didn’t get the wins in a couple too many close games. Folks around here just around used to not being a 25+ win team I guess. But we were better than a lot of folks are giving credit.
We weren’t really good or anything, but we weren’t that bad. We were as good or better than, for example, Syracuse, who is in the Sweet-16.
Had 1 or 2 more of the nailbiters gone our way, I bet nobody is saying we were bad.
I once asked this trivia question in DBR Chat: how many points did Jordan Goldwire score in Duke's 23-point comeback at Louisville on February 12, 2019?
Answer: zero. But he still got a Jordan Goldwire Appreciation Thread on DBR the very next day.
More from the DBR Archives:
2017 Basketball Recuiting Thread (May 1, 2017 at 2:46pm ET)
Welcome to Duke, Jordan Goldwire! (May 1, 2017 at 8:52pm ET)
I'm calling it: Jordan Goldwire is Tyler Thornton 2.0 (November 15, 2017)
ALL ACC Awards (Hurt First Team, Goldwire Defensive Team, Steward Rookie Team) (March 8, 2021)
You are putting way too much weight on the result of 2-3 possessions over the course of a season.
We played like a top-40 team. We got a bit unlucky and it deflated our record. We were not a bad team, like at all.
Even with the losses we were a bubble team. If 2 more possessions go our way, we are comfortably in the field. I think it is an incredibly pretty spoiled attitude to say we were a bad team.
KenPom ranked us #33 before the NCAAT. Torvik ranks us #32. Even the NET, which presumably would tell us the NCAA's opinion of what kind of team "we lost like," rated us #49. According to Pomeroy and Torvik, there were 25+ teams in the NCAA tournament that were worse than Duke.
Yes, this was Duke's worst season in 26 years but CDu's correct, we weren't that bad.
Reading Brevity’s great post about Jordan, I was struck by how much I miss Al Featherston’s posts and contributions to this forum. RIP
Unfortunately, Brevity, I can’t spork.
Anyone who didn’t see this coming wasn’t paying attention.
OK, I’m completely kidding about that. I totally did not see this coming! But a big “Thank You” to Jordan. I hope he succeeds wherever he winds up.
Exactly. Goldwire is the type of player that so many of us lament not having enough of at Duke anymore. It is so rewarding as a fan to watch a pretty good, but certainly not great, player develop over four years. You really get to know and appreciate a player over 150-plus games. They become like your most comfortable pair of shoes or your old baseball glove. You just cannot get that from a one-year guy.
We’re going to miss you, Jordan.