This bodes well for their commitments.
#kyrie #thebrotherhood
Could be anyone who believes in the vaccine efficacy (in terms of serious illness), and/or would consider your neighbor's experience unfortunate but anomalous. An acceptable risk, in other words. I think the behavior of the broader population these days indicates that a fairly broad swath fall into this camp. Again, not saying that is right or wrong. But am a bit surprised that you seem surprised by the notion.
This bodes well for their commitments.
#kyrie #thebrotherhood
I am surprised by the notion that people who are fine with the idea of vaccine requirements and/or negative test results would not be concerned about masks requirements.
Breakthrough cases happen. That doesn't mean vaccines aren't mostly effective. Masks help reduce transmission of any cases.
Would you wax half your car? Would you get security cameras for two of your four doors to your house?
Why do partial measures?
If there were any scientifically and medically reliable authorities supporting your assumption that vaccines are perpetually 95% effective in protecting against breakthrough COVID infections and preventing transmission of the virus, your position would not be difficult to understand. But I have not seen any such studies. So as long as I'm interacting regularly with my unvaccinated grandchildren, and believe that other people are equally concerned about protecting themselves as well as their family members and friends, I'll respect the threat of those continuing risks and use face coverings when indoors with people outside my bubble. Feel free to call me "overabundantly cautious" if you think this practice excessive.
To be clear, it’s not my position. I was simply trying to explain the mindset of those that hold it. I happen to not be doctrinaire in either direction, and instead see it as very much of a YMMV issue at this stage.
FWIW, your approach makes total sense to me, given those family dynamics and (what I understand to be) your age. But I also don’t think one needs to believe vaccines are 95% effective in perpetuity to have substantially more confidence in - and comfort from - them than wearing a mask.
If this isn't your opinion, why do you keep trying to make me look like an idiot by saying "why don't you understand?"
Keeping with the car analogy, isn't it more like saying "I'm not going to wear my seatbelt because my brakes usually work?"
Again, there are those who don't believe/trust the science. They don't want vaccines/masks or to wash their hands.
If Duke is attempting to set a high bar for safety and health, why would they NOT require masks on top of vaccines/tests?
Please refrain from being baffled at my lack of understanding and just write it out.
Thanks.
Because the seat belt analogy isn't really accurate here. Fully vaccinated people with healthy immune systems have a very tiny chance of becoming severely ill from COVID. This isn't wearing a seatbelt, this is stringing your house full of burglary alarms and glass-break detectors in every room. If you're in a truly terrible neighborhood, that extreme caution might be warranted (unvaccinated people). If you're in an average neighborhood, you're probably fine with locking your doors. Given the added stress and discomfort of masks, many of us are ready to take our chances. Personally, I would prefer that everyone continues to wear a mask until we have a vaccine plan for young children, but I know I won't be wearing a mask for the rest of my life.
I clearly don't intend to wear one for the rest of my life too.
Alabama's football stadium is packed with who knows what - no masks, no vaccine checks, no tests. Good for them.
Duke has bern setting a higher bar, by all accounts. No fans last year. Women's team cancelled play for safety reasons.
Why would the administration do half measures?
Sorry, I don't think this is an "obvious" question or I'm being dense. I'm sorry my small mind can't see these obvious answers that some of you seem to have.
Perhaps someone else has a more compassionate answer to my question that doesn't involve trying to make me feel stupid?
I'll take my answer off the air.
I just became a parent. For the first two months of my boy's life, I was pretty cautious. We tried to avoid being indoors too long, we tried to avoid too many guests, etc. And this wasn't because of COVID; this was because of pertussis (whooping cough). Our pedestrian told us to be cautious because pertussis is devastating for infants. Once he got that DTaP vaccine, we got the green light from the pedestrian to change our behavior. And we did change. We went out to restaurants. We went to stores. We had guests galore. From talking to parents pre and post COVID, this is the norm.
But, truth be told, DTaP breakthrough cases also happen with children. That doesn't stop the parents from changing behavior.
Now, COVID is much more prevalent and much more top of mind than pertussis. But that "vaccine means I get to change my behavior" is still there and absolutely impacts federal, local, and indoor mandates. Vaccine + mask is certainly the best, but many, kinda like the pertussis example, feel that a vaccine is good enough.
And in full disclosure, whether it's right or wrong, I think a vaccine is good enough. But I'm not going to argue with anyone who wants me to wear a mask; I'll just wear one if it's required.
Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfils the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things. - Winston Churchill
President of the "Nolan Smith Should Have His Jersey in The Rafters" Club
Congrats on becoming a parent, but I'm not sure I would trust the advice of my pedestrian.
I'm sure I am overreacting. And I know that even if there were a mask mandate in Cameron, people would be eating and drinking, and their masks would be off 70% of the time anyway. I'm probably tilting at windmills.
To me, being inside with 9,314 people unmasked who are screaming and yelling and cheering to victory seems irresponsible. I'm apparently in the minority.
Let's go Duke!
Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfils the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things. - Winston Churchill
President of the "Nolan Smith Should Have His Jersey in The Rafters" Club
Maybe minority, but not tiny minority. I think it's a combination of "vaccines are good enough" argument and pandemic exhaustion. Also, maybe the student testing at Duke is good enough to mitigate mask wearing (I assume students are still being tested?).
Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfils the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things. - Winston Churchill
President of the "Nolan Smith Should Have His Jersey in The Rafters" Club
every week. though there are hiccups there...like the notification comes out in the morning that you have to be tested TODAY, and if you don't get your test done by the time most of them close (4pm) then they disable your duke card so you can't eat or get into your dorm.
Because apparently giving a days warning was too much...
https://www.dukechronicle.com/articl...tions-shut-off
https://www.dukechronicle.com/articl...1-pm-confusion
(fortunately, their system for disabling duke cards seems to work about as well as the rest of the logistics...)
/rant
1200. DDMF.
As someone who is triple-jabbed, I am still a bit anxious about the games. I am planning on going Saturday and I plan to wear a mask. I will probably STILL wear a mask even if the mandate goes away. There are always those who are going to find a way to sneak around the system. THOSE are the ones I worry about being exposed to.
Minority or not, your perspective is one that I share. We're presently planning to attend most home games in Cameron this season, and I am hopeful that fans in the upper level will comply with the masking requirement out of respect for the fact that many of our fellow Crusties seated around them are likely to be in a particularly vulnerable group. In any event, although we are fully vaccinated -- and in fact we're scheduled to receive our Moderna half-dose booster shots later today -- we will adhere to the same practice that we maintained during football games at the Swamp this fall: Wear our N95 masks throughout the game, try to postpone any refreshments or bathroom visits until after we've exited the building, and say a silent prayer that we are fortunate enough to avoid contracting the virus. I'd much rather be ridiculed than take the risk of being responsible for causing other members of my family to become sick.