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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by dukelifer View Post
    Duval needs to be consistent. He had these sort of up and down performances at Duke. He shows his flashes. He is a G leaguer until he works out the kinks in his overall game.
    that was what worried me, and what made me think he wasn't ready for NBA ball yet, although he is certainly capable of handling the G-league competently.
    i don't think too many teams would be too too concerned with an occasional 0-fer, but 2:5 a:t ain't gonna get many looks. 0-8 0-3 1-2 certainly seems to confirm the "he can't shoot narrative".

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    ESPN Summer League coverage needs more interviews. I think they can eventually work their way down to interviewing the yellow shirt security guys if they keep at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furniture View Post
    I'll see your Harry Giles dunk and raise you Jabari Bird.



    After that dunk, I started to shop around for a Jabari Bird Celtics jersey, but the only ones I could find had the wrong number.

    birdjersey.jpg

    #33? Dude, he wears #26.

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    Watching Wendell play against Mykhailuk and Newman ... sigh, too soon.

  6. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by pfrduke View Post
    Watching Wendell play against Mykhailuk and Newman ... sigh, too soon.
    Oh what might have been if Carter had been able to stay on the floor in overtime.


    Coach K said that Carter has one of the highest basketball IQ's of any player that he has coached. This really is evident in summer league, more so than it was during last season. He improved quite a bit in terms of his defensive positioning while at Duke. I remember him being caught in no man's land on more than occasion before we switched to a zone. It's apparent that he has a steep learning curve because these defensive extincts didn't advance over night; his in season improvement was likely masked due to our need to play zone. He is showing a real knack for proper timing and spacing. There's not much to criticize in terms of on court performance but I'd like to see him rebound a bit more aggressively and setup a stronger position to receive post entry passes. That said, he is probably the top rookie in summer league play thus far.

  7. #127
    Amile had 15 points and 13 rebounds in 31 minutes as the Timberwolves beat the Raptors 103-92.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180708/MINTOR#/boxscore

    The Spurs beat the Wizards 95-90.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180708/WASSAS#/boxscore

    The Hornets beat the Heat 94-90.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180708/CHAMIA#/boxscore

    Gary had 8 points in 21 minutes as the Blazers beat the Hawks 85-68.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180708/PORATL#/boxscore

    The Mavericks beat the Bucks 81-78.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180708/DALMIL#/boxscore

    Trevon had 1 points in 17 minutes as the Rockets beat the Warriors 87-81.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180708/GSWHOU#/boxscore

    Grayson was rested as the Jazz beat the Knicks 90-85. Michael Gbinije has not seen game action yet, but Mitchell Robinson made up for missing a season by committing 7 fouls.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180708/UTANYK#/boxscore

    There have been some exceedingly low point outputs this year, including the Bucks losing to the Magic 86-56.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180708/MEMORL#/boxscore

    The Kings are enforcing a two Duke player rule. With Marvin out, they brought in Matt Jones and he had 3 points in 12 minutes while Harry had 8 points in 14 minutes before getting some rest as they lost to the Clippers 88-78.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180708/SACLAC#/boxscore

    Wendell had 9 points and 7 rebounds in 25 minutes as the Bulls lost to the Lakers 69-60.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180708/LALCHI #/boxscore

    Here is Monday's schedule (all times ET, games on NBATV also on ESPN3):
    Pelicans (no Frank) vs Pistons, 3:00pm ESPNU
    Raptors vs Thunder, 3:30pm NBATV
    Pacers vs Cavaliers, 5:00pm ESPN2
    Wizards vs Sixers, 5:30pm NBATV
    Hornets vs Celtics, 7:00pm ESPN2
    Warriors vs Mavericks, 7:30pm NBATV
    Bucks vs Nuggets, 9:00pm ESPNU
    Magic vs Suns, 9:30pm NBATV
    Nets vs Timberwolves (Amile), 11:00pm ESPNU
    Clippers vs Rockets (Trevon), 11:30pm NBATV

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlDuke72 View Post
    Okay, I apologize to Awhom111 whomever or whatever you may be.
    I appreciate your feedback. I like that this board tries to be less negative and a little more sophisticated than other boards. I have nothing against Trae Young and I enjoy watching him play, but the narrative was there to be crafted so I took the opportunity in that case. I will endeavor to keep things light-hearted in the future and not try to cross the line into outright mean-spiritedness.

  8. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by awhom111 View Post


    I appreciate your feedback. I like that this board tries to be less negative and a little more sophisticated than other boards. I have nothing against Trae Young and I enjoy watching him play, but the narrative was there to be crafted so I took the opportunity in that case. I will endeavor to keep things light-hearted in the future and not try to cross the line into outright mean-spiritedness.
    And now actual evidence that awhom is, in fact, a bot. No real person would be this gracious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by subzero02 View Post
    Oh what might have been if Carter had been able to stay on the floor in overtime.


    Coach K said that Carter has one of the highest basketball IQ's of any player that he has coached. This really is evident in summer league, more so than it was during last season. He improved quite a bit in terms of his defensive positioning while at Duke. I remember him being caught in no man's land on more than occasion before we switched to a zone. It's apparent that he has a steep learning curve because these defensive extincts didn't advance over night; his in season improvement was likely masked due to our need to play zone. He is showing a real knack for proper timing and spacing. There's not much to criticize in terms of on court performance but I'd like to see him rebound a bit more aggressively and setup a stronger position to receive post entry passes. That said, he is probably the top rookie in summer league play thus far.
    There was another MVP “stolen” at the 7th spot a few years back...
    “Coach said no 3s.” - Zion on The Block

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    Update on Marvin:

    Marc J. Spears @MarcJSpearsESPN

    The Kings say an MRI conducted this morning on forward Marvin Bagley III revealed a pelvic bone bruise. The No. 2 pick of the 2018 NBA Draft will miss the rest of summer league while resting for approximately 1-2 weeks.

    5:57 PM - 9 Jul 2018

    CBS Sports says the same thing, but then unnecessarily expands for two more paragraphs here.

    While Summer League is a great chance for teams to get a look at their rookies and potential training camp invites, the actual results of the games have little meaning, and teams aren't going to risk making an injury worse. This would be the correct decision regardless of the player, but it's especially smart for the Kings to be cautious with the No. 2 overall pick.

    If there is a bright side to this, it's that Sacramento already played a few Summer League games before the injury happened and got a chance to see Bagley in action. The Kings will have the entire summer to break down his game and figure out how to best implement it into next season. For now, their top priority should be keeping their prized rookie healthy.
    Journalism.

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    Duke over UNC

    https://mobile.twitter.com/DukeNBA/s...086657/video/1

    Just in case anyone didn’t see this little gem. Our Gary over Bradley.
    Kyle gets BUCKETS!
    https://youtu.be/NJWPASQZqLc

  12. #132
    A game that was supposed to have two Duke players when the schedule came out ended up with none as the Pistons beat the Pelicans 105-97.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180709/NOPDET#/boxscore

    The Raptors lost to the Thunder 92-82, but won at fouling as Shevon Thompson had 8.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180709/TOROKC#/boxscore

    The Cavaliers beat the Pacers 93-88.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180709/INDCLE#/boxscore

    The Wizards beat the Sixers, who were more interested in the race to 7 fouls between Chris McCullough and Norvel Pelle, 87-75.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180709/WASPHI#/boxscore

    Semi Ojeleye had 13 points and 7 rebounds in 32 minutes as the Celtics beat the Hornets 100-80.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180709/WASPHI#/boxscore

    The Mavericks beat the Warriors 91-71.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180709/GSWDAL#/boxscore

    The Nuggets beat the Bucks 90-83.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180709/MILDEN#/boxscore

    Josh Jackson hit the 7 foul mark as the Suns beat the Magic 71-53.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180709/ORLPHX#/boxscore

    Amile had 5 points and 12 rebounds in 26 minutes as the Timberwolves beat the Nets 78-69.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180709/BKNMIN#/boxscore

    Trevon had 12 points in 14 minutes as the Rockets beat the Clippers 104-90. Everyone got into the foul act as Zhou Qi led the way with 9 while on the other side Sindarious Thornwell and Vincent Hunter reached 7.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180709/LACHOU#/boxscore

    Here is Tuesday's schedule (all times ET, games on NBATV also on ESPN3):
    Spurs vs Trailblazers (Gary), 4pm NBATV
    Jazz (Grayson?) vs Heat, 4:30pm ESPNU
    Hawks vs Bulls (Wendell), 6pm NBATV
    Kings (Matt, Harry, but not Marvin) vs Grizzlies, 6:30pm ESPN2
    Lakers vs Knicks, 8:30pm ESPN2

  13. #133
    ACC and Duke guys dominated the high scorers today

  14. #134
    Gary had 20 points in 25 minutes as the Blazers beat the Spurs 95-89. Amida Brimah had 7 fouls and it held up as the last one of the summer as the start of the playoffs mean that actual rules of basketball will be enforced.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180710/SASPOR#/boxscore

    Grayson had 17 points and 7 rebounds in 24 minutes as the Jazz lost to the Heat 98-90.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180710/UTAMIA#/boxscore

    Wendell had 23 points and 6 rebounds in 27 minutes, but the Bulls lost to the Hawks 101-93.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180710/ATLCHI#/boxscore

    Matt had 15 points in 19 minutes and Harry had 11 points and 12 rebounds in 24 minutes as the Kings beat the Grizzlies 94-80.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180710/SACMEM#/boxscore

    Michael Gbinije finally entered a game, going scoreless in 13 minutes as the Knicks lost to the Lakers 109-92.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180710/LALNYK#/boxscore

    Getting a schedule for the first day of the tournament portion of Summer League is always slow. I am going off of current WatchESPN listings, which I assume are accurate, but I do not know what the seedings are.

    Here is Wednesday's schedule (all times ET, games on NBATV also on ESPN3):
    Clippers vs Wizards, 4pm ESPNU
    Kings (Matt and Harry) vs Cavaliers, 4:30pm NBATV
    Nets vs Rockets (Trevon), 6pm ESPN2
    Bulls (Wendell) vs Mavericks, 6:30pm NBATV
    Pistons vs Timberwolves (Amile), 8:00pm ESPN2
    Hawks vs Pacers, 8:30pm NBATV
    Raptors vs Nuggets, 10:00pm ESPN2
    Warriors vs Hornets, 10:30pm NBATV

  15. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by awhom111 View Post
    Gary had 20 points in 25 minutes as the Blazers beat the Spurs 95-89. Amida Brimah had 7 fouls and it held up as the last one of the summer as the start of the playoffs mean that actual rules of basketball will be enforced.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180710/SASPOR#/boxscore

    Grayson had 17 points and 7 rebounds in 24 minutes as the Jazz lost to the Heat 98-90.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180710/UTAMIA#/boxscore

    Wendell had 23 points and 6 rebounds in 27 minutes, but the Bulls lost to the Hawks 101-93.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180710/ATLCHI#/boxscore

    Matt had 15 points in 19 minutes and Harry had 11 points and 12 rebounds in 24 minutes as the Kings beat the Grizzlies 94-80.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180710/SACMEM#/boxscore

    Michael Gbinije finally entered a game, going scoreless in 13 minutes as the Knicks lost to the Lakers 109-92.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180710/LALNYK#/boxscore

    Getting a schedule for the first day of the tournament portion of Summer League is always slow. I am going off of current WatchESPN listings, which I assume are accurate, but I do not know what the seedings are.

    Here is Wednesday's schedule (all times ET, games on NBATV also on ESPN3):
    Clippers vs Wizards, 4pm ESPNU
    Kings (Matt and Harry) vs Cavaliers, 4:30pm NBATV
    Nets vs Rockets (Trevon), 6pm ESPN2
    Bulls (Wendell) vs Mavericks, 6:30pm NBATV
    Pistons vs Timberwolves (Amile), 8:00pm ESPN2
    Hawks vs Pacers, 8:30pm NBATV
    Raptors vs Nuggets, 10:00pm ESPN2
    Warriors vs Hornets, 10:30pm NBATV
    Trent is having an excellent summer league. He needs to quicken his release a bit but he has shown he can shoot it from multiple spots on the floor. He has a chance to make the big squad.

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    Watched two quarters of the Jazz game yesterday. Grayson was apparently playing through a minor injury.

    His game looked solid. Engaged on defense and rebounded well. Made some great passes. Moved off the ball well. Still struggling when shooting off the dribble and against traffic in the lane like he did at Duke. I'm sure it'll improve since he's only a rookie and this is summer league, but that's his biggest knock right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awhom111 View Post
    Gary had 20 points in 25 minutes as the Blazers beat the Spurs 95-89. Amida Brimah had 7 fouls and it held up as the last one of the summer as the start of the playoffs mean that actual rules of basketball will be enforced.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180710/SASPOR#/boxscore

    Grayson had 17 points and 7 rebounds in 24 minutes as the Jazz lost to the Heat 98-90.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180710/UTAMIA#/boxscore

    Wendell had 23 points and 6 rebounds in 27 minutes, but the Bulls lost to the Hawks 101-93.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180710/ATLCHI#/boxscore

    Matt had 15 points in 19 minutes and Harry had 11 points and 12 rebounds in 24 minutes as the Kings beat the Grizzlies 94-80.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180710/SACMEM#/boxscore

    Michael Gbinije finally entered a game, going scoreless in 13 minutes as the Knicks lost to the Lakers 109-92.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20180710/LALNYK#/boxscore

    Getting a schedule for the first day of the tournament portion of Summer League is always slow. I am going off of current WatchESPN listings, which I assume are accurate, but I do not know what the seedings are.

    Here is Wednesday's schedule (all times ET, games on NBATV also on ESPN3):
    Clippers vs Wizards, 4pm ESPNU
    Kings (Matt and Harry) vs Cavaliers, 4:30pm NBATV
    Nets vs Rockets (Trevon), 6pm ESPN2
    Bulls (Wendell) vs Mavericks, 6:30pm NBATV
    Pistons vs Timberwolves (Amile), 8:00pm ESPN2
    Hawks vs Pacers, 8:30pm NBATV
    Raptors vs Nuggets, 10:00pm ESPN2
    Warriors vs Hornets, 10:30pm NBATV
    I got a great chuckle at your jab above in bold.

    - Chillin

  18. #138
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    It's hard to overstate how well Carter has been playing so far in summer league. Averaging 16, 7.3, and 3.7 blocks per game, shooting 57% from the field, 50% from 3, and 79% from the FT line. His stat line is somewhat masked by the fact that he's playing alongside an unabashed gunner in Antonio Blakeney (who is averaging nearly a FGA per minute) and some really bad guards, which keeps him from getting more and better looks. But he's looked great in every facet of the game. Even in perimeter defense, which was a nightmare for him last year.

    The SummerBulls took a tough L to the Hawks, as Trae Young was spectacular from 3. Young hit 7 of 13 from 3, and most were REALLY long because the Bulls were overplaying him anywhere near the line.

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    I like these quotes from Trevon, he seems pretty media savvy in that he pivoted from a "Duke didn't feature me" angle to one that was more positive about the opportunity Duke afforded him.

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/spor...gue/765767002/

    Even in summer league, with its 10-minute quarters, the Rockets play at a fast pace, scoring 92 points in the opening game. Duval took advantage of the up-tempo game, something relatively uncommon at Duke.

    "Breaking free of the cohesive Duke offense, Duval showed NBA-level ability.

    Without last season' teammates -- no Marvin Bagley lll or Wendell Carter to force a deliberate pace, no other ball-handlers such as Gary Trent Jr. and Grayson Allen -- Duval unleashed his real identity.

    “I think it helped me a little bit,” Duval said. “I always like playing fast in transition. So, this pace is for me.”

    With Duval playing in an offense he prefers, he was also able to showcase his improvement -- capitalizing on success he found in his lone season with the Blue Devils. He took pride in getting everyone involved, collecting 5.6 assists per game in college, and lists that as his top skill.

    “I would say my playmaking ability since I played on a team with four other NBA players,” Duval said. “So, I think I’ve learned to create for really good players and also play with other really good players.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDu View Post
    It's hard to overstate how well Carter has been playing so far in summer league. Averaging 16, 7.3, and 3.7 blocks per game, shooting 57% from the field, 50% from 3, and 79% from the FT line. His stat line is somewhat masked by the fact that he's playing alongside an unabashed gunner in Antonio Blakeney (who is averaging nearly a FGA per minute) and some really bad guards, which keeps him from getting more and better looks. But he's looked great in every facet of the game. Even in perimeter defense, which was a nightmare for him last year.

    The SummerBulls took a tough L to the Hawks, as Trae Young was spectacular from 3. Young hit 7 of 13 from 3, and most were REALLY long because the Bulls were overplaying him anywhere near the line.
    A bunch of us are higher on Carter than Bagley (and that isn't to say we aren't high on Bagley).

    Carter is so smart, so calculated, so strong. I absolutely love his game.

    With all of our guys playing so well in Summer League, I'm still surprised we didn't slaughter ever team in our path.
    Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfils the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things. - Winston Churchill

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