Jordan Goldwire will Grad Transfer to Oklahoma

[ElliottHoo]

Oklahoma is transfer central... they just got the Groves brothers over the weekend.

OU has a pair of PGs who could come back but probably won't.

Austin Reeves is in the NBA draft after averaging PTS 18.3, REB 5.5, and AST 4.6. His draft stock ain't too high but it seems like he wants to turn pro.
De'Vion Harmon was more of a combo guard but wants to go somewhere that he can play with the ball in his hands more. There's been talk linking him to Kentucky and he is also thinking about the NBA draft. He averaged 12.9 PTS, 3.4 REB, and 2.1 AST.

If either returns, then Jordan is likely looking at a backup kinda role but I think both are likely going elsewhere.

Huh. I wonder if Oklahoma ends up with all 5 starters next year as transfers. That would be... something. Very on-brand for 2021.

[CDu]

Huh. I wonder if Oklahoma ends up with all 5 starters next year as transfers. That would be... something. Very on-brand for 2021.

Given that they will have a new coaching staff with a very different style of play, and the transfer rules are further relaxed this year, it would not be a shock at all.

[budwom]

Given that they will have a new coaching staff with a very different style of play, and the transfer rules are further relaxed this year, it would not be a shock at all.

operating on very limited info, it kind of looks like the Duke women's team will be very heavily transfer reliant as well.

[wsb3]

Pretty good interview with Jordan Goldwire.

https://www.starnewsonline.com/story...GcaHz46D2wLb5g

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

Pretty good interview with Jordan Goldwire.

https://www.starnewsonline.com/story...GcaHz46D2wLb5g

That's an excellent piece. Thanks for tracking it down and sharing.

[cspan37421]

Pretty good interview with Jordan Goldwire.

https://www.starnewsonline.com/story...GcaHz46D2wLb5g

Written by David Thompson ... but not THAT David Thompson.

Thanks for posting, that was great. I love that Coach K story regarding the argument. What other coaches would have viewed it that way?

[Truth&Justise]

Written by David Thompson ... but not THAT David Thompson.

Thanks for posting, that was great. I love that Coach K story regarding the argument. What other coaches would have viewed it that way?

The story, for those wondering:

Do you have a favorite Coach K story?

There have been a lot of special moments between me and him, but my favorite game moment was my freshman year, I think we were playing Rhode Island in a tournament, and for some reason, Trevon Duval and Wendell Carter got into it about something. They were arguing all the way to the bench, and everybody was trying to calm them down, and I remember Coach K being like 'stop!' to the guys on the bench. He yelled at Trevon and Wendell, "I love your guys' passion." They were arguing, but he liked the fact that they were arguing because they were so into the game. I'll never forget that.

[johnb]

Has Goldwire announced which OU graduate program attracted him to Norman? Perhaps something in petroleum land management, which isn’t available at Duke?

Do grad transfers have to sign up for something, or can they kinda begin a masters in education or something with no intention of completing the degree?

[Bluedog]

Has Goldwire announced which OU graduate program attracted him to Norman? Perhaps something in petroleum land management, which isn’t available at Duke?

Do grad transfers have to sign up for something, or can they kinda begin a masters in education or something with no intention of completing the degree?

The NCAA had a proposal a few years back to count grad transfers as scholarship spots for two years (or until the student completed their degree), but the was defeated.
https://apnews.com/article/college-basketball-mens-college-basketball-in-state-wire-football-college-football-e9fff3c605d64de0ab809eab183bbe7a

In other words, yes, a player could theoretically choose something for a year with no intention of completing it. I mean the same can happen with undergrad so it's not really much different. Duke, and I'm sure other schools, do have some 1-year masters programs. Master of Liberal Arts is a common one for Duke athletes as well as the MMS (in Fuqua).

[flyingdutchdevil]

Has Goldwire announced which OU graduate program attracted him to Norman? Perhaps something in petroleum land management, which isn’t available at Duke?

Do grad transfers have to sign up for something, or can they kinda begin a masters in education or something with no intention of completing the degree?

Yup. Masters in 'Starting for a Power 5 Team'. Duke doesn't offer that.

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

Has Goldwire announced which OU graduate program attracted him to Norman? Perhaps something in petroleum land management, which isn’t available at Duke?

Do grad transfers have to sign up for something, or can they kinda begin a masters in education or something with no intention of completing the degree?

Goldwire's own words about why he chose Oklahoma don't mention academics:

Since we had our first Zoom, they were just so interested in me. They showed a lot of passion when it came to my game and what they thought I could do for the team. I was getting calls every day from their coaches, one was telling me he couldn't sleep because he wanted me so bad (laughs). I wanted to feel wanted, and play somewhere where I could get exposure. I like the Big 12 conference as well, so it was a number of different factors.

[jv001]

Goldwire's own words about why he chose Oklahoma don't mention academics:

They're getting a very hard working player that's for sure. I wish him well.

GoDuke!

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

They're getting a very hard working player that's for sure. I wish him well.

GoDuke!

It was a great interview.

[CrazyNotCrazie]

Has Goldwire announced which OU graduate program attracted him to Norman? Perhaps something in petroleum land management, which isn’t available at Duke?

Do grad transfers have to sign up for something, or can they kinda begin a masters in education or something with no intention of completing the degree?

I thought that at some point there was a rule that they had to be transferring to study something that wasn't available at their original university? Which generally wasn't a difficult requirement to work around. I'm guessing that with the general loosening of the transfer rules, that also went away? I also assume that the only academic requirement might be that they have to take some minimal course load and then achieve some very low GPA in those classes first semester to stay eligible second semester.

Unlike the not-too-distant past, we almost never hear about academics getting in the way of sports for the student-athletes.

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

I thought that at some point there was a rule that they had to be transferring to study something that wasn't available at their original university? Which generally wasn't a difficult requirement to work around. I'm guessing that with the general loosening of the transfer rules, that also went away? I also assume that the only academic requirement might be that they have to take some minimal course load and then achieve some very low GPA in those classes first semester to stay eligible second semester.

Unlike the not-too-distant past, we almost never hear about academics getting in the way of sports for the student-athletes.

I've made this point several times in recent threads and get shouted down regularly. Anyone who thinks that "student athletes" are the driving force of revenue heavy D-1 college basketball programs is living in the past.

[CrazyNotCrazie]

I've made this point several times in recent threads and get shouted down regularly. Anyone who thinks that "student athletes" are the driving force of revenue heavy D-1 college basketball programs is living in the past.

Totally agree with you. I think it is really sad that this is the case, but you are correct. I don't expect all student-athletes to be gunning for a 4.0 in biomedical engineering, but there should be some minimal interest in academics (which includes areas like music, art, etc). I am glad the G League option is gradually expanding so that those who truly have zero interest in being on a college campus don't have to be there. I know this conversation will again go in circles about one-and-done, NIL, transferring and other related topics, so I will shut up and leave it at that.

[Channing]

I'm sure I'm not alone in being more invested in JG's success at OU next year than, e.g., DJ's success in the (G) league next year. While he was never my favorite Duke player, it was great to see the player / leader evolve and develop.

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

I'm sure I'm not alone in being more invested in JG's success at OU next year than, e.g., DJ's success in the (G) league next year. While he was never my favorite Duke player, it was great to see the player / leader evolve and develop.

I will absolutely root my rear end off for Goldwire. He was an integral piece to Duke's team for the last four years and fulfilled his obligations to the program. By all accounts a stand up individual.

[johnb]

It does seem like there should be some actual rules for the grad transfer.

As it stands, there aren’t many 1 year programs that would be actually helpful to the average athlete (or to the average college grad). Going forward, I wonder if Big State U’s will create a 1-year masters program in some directly-applicable specialty that would have no intention of being especially academic but might be helpful to athletes or to other folks who want a 1-year additional credential that could help them be productive: “Reading, writing, and arithmetic for citizens” or some sort of 1 year business degree. It could be a masters or a “certificate” in lieu of an actual degree.

As for Oklahoma, the alma mater of my parents and over a dozen cousins, my favorite line is from the former college president, senator, governor David Boren: “at Oklahoma, we’re working hard to create a university that our football team can be proud of.”

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

It does seem like there should be some actual rules for the grad transfer.

As it stands, there aren’t many 1 year programs that would be actually helpful to the average athlete (or to the average college grad). Going forward, I wonder if Big State U’s will create a 1-year masters program in some directly-applicable specialty that would have no intention of being especially academic but might be helpful to athletes or to other folks who want a 1-year additional credential that could help them be productive: “Reading, writing, and arithmetic for citizens” or some sort of 1 year business degree. It could be a masters or a “certificate” in lieu of an actual degree.

Seems like the tail wagging the dog. I suspect you are overimagining the level of oversight that is taking place by the NCAA regarding these graduate programs.