2020 Presidential Election

[YmoBeThere]

I vote that anyone who thinks it is necessary to protest this obviously stolen election, they should throw a rock at their TV the moment Biden puts his hand on the Bible.

Trying to bolster the Asian economies? Oh wait, what about that plant in Wisconsin?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ents-displaced

[tommy]

Tongue in cheek. Ain't much of nobody else gonna be there unless they are in a National Guard uniform or wearing a badge.

Shame it has come to that in this country, but at least it will happen without on-site violence. That's how low our bar is now . . .

[Tripping William]

Shame it has come to that in this country, but at least it will happen without on-site violence. That's how low our bar is now . . .

Pie bet on that?

[tommy]

Nonpartisan. If you want an absolutely chilling account of what it looked like and sounded like and felt like on the ground, in the middle of it all, you have to read this:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...term=TNY_Daily

[tommy]

Pie bet on that?

No way in heck would I take that bet. Pretty sure we all have learned (or should have) that not much is impossible when it comes to our politics these days.

[dudog84]

Re whether these images will stick with us...as more insurrectionists are arrested, and more devices are confiscated, I think we'll have more than enough images to last our lifetimes.

Here's new (to me) video from the insurrectionists' viewpoint of the cop who led them away from the Senate (and Pence, I believe). How many of us would have the guts to stand up to a bunch of thugs, outnumbered at least 20-1? Unless I'm armed with an uzi, not me.

The first minute is sufficient:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...rs/vi-BB1cNf5r

[dudog84]

I've always stressed to business colleagues how important it is to document your actions. Luckily, many of the insurrectionists believe in this also.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/af...ocid=Peregrine

[bundabergdevil]

Re whether these images will stick with us...as more insurrectionists are arrested, and more devices are confiscated, I think we'll have more than enough images to last our lifetimes.

Here's new (to me) video from the insurrectionists' viewpoint of the cop who led them away from the Senate (and Pence, I believe). How many of us would have the guts to stand up to a bunch of thugs, outnumbered at least 20-1? Unless I'm armed with an uzi, not me.

The first minute is sufficient:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...rs/vi-BB1cNf5r

The highest promoted story on FoxNews.com right now regarding 1/6 is about a left wing activist’s role in the riot and a friendly Capitol Hill officer who let rioters in.

Big Lie couldn’t have been possible with out the decades of Big Misdirection and Big Propaganda that seeded the soil.

[Tripping William]

Nonpartisan. If you want an absolutely chilling account of what it looked like and sounded like and felt like on the ground, in the middle of it all, you have to read this:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...term=TNY_Daily

No way in heck would I take that bet. Pretty sure we all have learned (or should have) that not much is impossible when it comes to our politics these days.

After reading that long, detailed, sobering New Yorker article, you are wise to decline my wager offer.

[dudog84]

Nonpartisan. If you want an absolutely chilling account of what it looked like and sounded like and felt like on the ground, in the middle of it all, you have to read this:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...term=TNY_Daily

A man in a construction hard hat held up a hand-signed document, on official stationery, addressed from “Mitt” to “Mike”—presumably, Romney and Pence. It was the speech that Romney had given, in February, 2020, when he voted to impeach Trump for pressuring the President of Ukraine to produce dirt on Biden. “Corrupting an election to keep oneself in office is perhaps the most abusive and disruptive violation of one’s oath of office that I can imagine,” Romney had written.

Oh Mittster, you ain't seen nuthin' yet.

Thanks for the link, tough but required reading.

[OldPhiKap]

Another Ho-him day at the White House. Trump meets with the My Pillow Guy.

Wanna know what they discussed? photographers got a snap of his notes:

https://twitter.com/jabinbotsford/st...564905985?s=21

Close-up and a reporter’s attemp to transcribe the visible parts:

03362787-86F4-499B-8A76-AFE2DE9E95F4.jpg

[Tripping William]

Another Ho-him day at the White House. Trump meets with the My Pillow Guy.

Wanna know what they discussed? photographers got a snap of his notes:

https://twitter.com/jabinbotsford/st...564905985?s=21

But no reason to remove POTUS from office tout suite ....

[OldPhiKap]

But no reason to remove POTUS from office tout suite ...

“Trigger emergency powers” and “ “Martial law if necessary upon the first hint of any” something is — concerning.

[bundabergdevil]

Nonpartisan. If you want an absolutely chilling account of what it looked like and sounded like and felt like on the ground, in the middle of it all, you have to read this:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2...term=TNY_Daily

There are some astonishing scenes in that story. I do not think Trump is going to go away; to the contrary, he's going to lean even harder into his grievances and beat his drum even louder. Agree with others who don't think the current strain of right wing extremism and violence goes away anytime soon. There are some deep, deep cult-style beliefs that have essentially become mainstream in the Republican party.

[Tripping William]

“Trigger emergency powers” and “ “Martial law if necessary upon the first hint of any” something is — concerning.

Oh, but Trump’s “new tone.” And the “big lesson” he’s learned. Uh huh. Forgive me if I believe his “we’ll never concede” line instead.

[Tripping William]

There are some astonishing scenes in that story. I do not think Trump is going to go away; to the contrary, he's going to lean even harder into his grievances and beat his drum even louder. Agree with others who don't think the current strain of right wing extremism and violence goes away anytime soon. There are some deep, deep cult-style beliefs that have essentially become mainstream in the Republican party.

And apparently they don’t even need/want Trump now and, feeling betrayed, are prepared to go on with or without him:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump...b62c0057bc11ab

[Bostondevil]

There are some astonishing scenes in that story. I do not think Trump is going to go away; to the contrary, he's going to lean even harder into his grievances and beat his drum even louder. Agree with others who don't think the current strain of right wing extremism and violence goes away anytime soon. There are some deep, deep cult-style beliefs that have essentially become mainstream in the Republican party.

Not on Twitter, he isn't.

[MarkD83]

And apparently they don’t even need/want Trump now and, feeling betrayed, are prepared to go on with or without him:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump...b62c0057bc11ab

Trust is hard to earn and easy to lose...

I once visited a Ford plant and the first sign you see says

"If one person is happy they will tell 10 people. If one person is unhappy they will tell 10,000."

[MarkD83]

Trust is hard to earn and easy to lose part II.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/interne...-riot-n1254459

The last 2 paragraphs are ...

"Fredrick Brennan, who created the website 8chan where “Q” posts and has spent the last two years attempting to have the site removed from the internet for its ties to white supremacist terror attacks, said he believes reality may devastate the movement on Inauguration Day.

"This week has been hugely demoralizing so far and that will be the final straw,” he said. “Even though Q is at the moment based on Donald Trump, it is certainly possible for a significant faction to rise up that believes he was in the deep state all along and foiled the plan.”

[Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15]

Trust is hard to earn and easy to lose part II.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/interne...-riot-n1254459

The last 2 paragraphs are ...

"Fredrick Brennan, who created the website 8chan where “Q” posts and has spent the last two years attempting to have the site removed from the internet for its ties to white supremacist terror attacks, said he believes reality may devastate the movement on Inauguration Day.

"This week has been hugely demoralizing so far and that will be the final straw,” he said. “Even though Q is at the moment based on Donald Trump, it is certainly possible for a significant faction to rise up that believes he was in the deep state all along and foiled the plan.”

I don't even know what to say about that.