The Phracas at the Phog

[robed deity]

Can't find a clip right now, but props to the Jayhawk for staying in character.

[uh_no]

I'd say good job whoever titled the thread.

https://forums.dukebasketballreport...86#post1216786

It's why I try to keep my punnery sharp

[MCFinARL]

There was mention of the KSt guy on Sports center after our game. Uncle Fester said he too should be suspended for rest of season. But I agree that it seems like most of the focus has been on DeSousa.

The other thing not being talked about is how Bruce Pearl's comments after the game are mostly dismissive and not giving any culpability to his guys, saying he hopes nothing comes of it. At least Self called it an embarrassment.

To be fair, I'm not sure Bruce Pearl has much responsibility here. Bruce Weber, on the other hand...

Sorry--I now see Chicago 1999 already pointed this out. Missed that page of the thread.

[Hingeknocker]

Can't find a clip right now, but props to the Jayhawk for staying in character.

Referring to this? (Sound on.)

https://twitter.com/CWilliamson44/st...223504898?s=19

[robed deity]

Referring to this? (Sound on.)

https://twitter.com/CWilliamson44/st...223504898?s=19

Haha bingo.

[BD80]

ESPN says De Sousa has been suspended "indefinitely." Likely the first of many actions to be taken here.

Typical Bill Self, the school suspends the kid "indefinitely" which means virtually nothing. Sounds good, means little...Self will wait for the storm to pass, try to sneak him back on the team.

I understand that Self will soon announce that Grayson Allen is permanently suspended.

... Teenage boys are full of testosterone and subsequently they make a lot of bad decisions ...

According to Robert Sapolsky's The Trouble with Testosterone, that view of cause and effect is, contrary to popular belief, backwards.

Bad decisions cause the production of testosterone?

[MChambers]

Bad decisions cause the production of testosterone?

Good to know!

[camion]

...

Bad decisions cause the production of testosterone?

So the takeaway from that is I need to make more bad decisions?

I can do that.

[OldPhiKap]

Bad decisions cause the production of testosterone?

How do you think I got this buff?

[TKG]

Da Sousa gets 12 game suspension according to ESPN. He would return for the final regular season game against Texas Tech

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...s-kansas-state

[RaiderDevil]

Da Sousa gets 12 game suspension according to ESPN. He would return for the final regular season game against Texas Tech

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...s-kansas-state

Not long enough. Should be done forever.

[bundabergdevil]

Da Sousa gets 12 game suspension according to ESPN. He would return for the final regular season game against Texas Tech

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...s-kansas-state

That’s it? That seems light for the chair regardless of whether the blow landed.

[Acymetric]

Not long enough. Should be done forever.

Nah. That and the rest of the suspensions are about right.

[Acymetric]

That’s it? That seems light for the chair regardless of whether the blow landed.

There was no blow to land, he never swung the stool.

[DrChainsaw]

How do you think I got this buff?

Huh. All I got was Male pattern baldness...

[CDu]

Nah. That and the rest of the suspensions are about right.

Yeah, I had guessed 10+ for De Sousa, 6 for Love, 2-3 for McCormack, and maybe one each for folks leaving the bench. Sounds like the conference gave folks the “the clock was at 0 so we thought the game was over” benefit of the doubt on bench clearing, and must decided that Gordon threw a punch (bumping him up to 3 games). So I agree that it feels about right.

[BD80]

Da Sousa gets 12 game suspension according to ESPN. He would return for the final regular season game against Texas Tech

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...s-kansas-state

That is just the conference acting.

Self and KU could add more severe discipline …


Golly, I really crack myself up sometimes.

[JayZee]

There was no blow to land, he never swung the stool.

Exactly. Looked bad, even horrible. But definitely not “criminal” as many of the pundits have cried. There is a huge difference between picking up a chair and swinging a chair, much less landing an actual blow. Now I guess if someone was hurt when he dropped it, there could be some negligence or something. Honestly McCormack stomping on a guy, if he did land a blow, is much worse. That was no Laettner love stomp, that was intent to hurt...

[sagegrouse]

There was no blow to land, he never swung the stool.

Exactly. Looked bad, even horrible. But definitely not “criminal” as many of the pundits have cried. There is a huge difference between picking up a chair and swinging a chair, much less landing an actual blow. Now I guess if someone was hurt when he dropped it, there could be some negligence or something. Honestly McCormack stomping on a guy, if he did land a blow, is much worse. That was no Laettner love stomp, that was intent to hurt...

I'll let the legal eagles hereabouts sort out for you the definition of "assault" vs. "assault and battery."

[Steven43]

Nah. That and the rest of the suspensions are about right.

What kind of value do you place on the sheer terror factor of a 6’9” 245 lb. man grabbing a metal chair and raising it above his head in anger seemingly about to use it as a weapon of destruction on defenseless unprotected people wearing nothing put street clothes (or a basketball uniform)?

You don’t think that terrifying act in and of itself deserves more than a suspension from some basketball games? Those folks who were in the direct line of fire from what he was threatening to do could have been psychologically traumatized, not only in the moment, but long-term. He could have easily killed someone with that chair.