Giglio is a total clown and Pack homer. He still has the Pack very high in his ACC football ratings and Duke down aways below GaTech. He simply plays to his base(local State and Cheat fans) without even researching Duke. He remains convinced that Duke can’t be great since past several OAD teams weren’t. I’m actually surprised he rates us this high in ACC.
Last edited by sagegrouse; 11-13-2018 at 12:46 PM.
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'When I got on the bus for my first road game at Duke, I saw that every player was carrying textbooks or laptops. I coached in the SEC for 25 years, and I had never seen that before, not even once.' - David Cutcliffe to Duke alumni in Washington, DC, June 2013
Preseason I would have predicted the final ACC standings to be: (1) UVA; (2) UNC; (3) Duke.
While obviously floored by how good we looked against Kentucky, I still do not think that order by the end of the regular season is unreasonable.
I wouldn't put UNC as the best of the three but Luke Maye is a real player and they have good talent. If they fit Roy's system, they will be tough.
You make a lot of sense. But that's pre-season reasoning. Who knows how the teams will play when the season starts? Well, we have some idea now. Duke thrashed the #2-ranked team in the country and everyone else had predictable wins against weak opposition. I would tilt my rankings at least a bit towards real world results. And, what's surprising is the overt "homerism" on display. Hey, Joe Giglio, put Duke #1 and say you don't believe it will last. Rather than say, in effect, "I don't believe my eyes."
Sage Grouse
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'When I got on the bus for my first road game at Duke, I saw that every player was carrying textbooks or laptops. I coached in the SEC for 25 years, and I had never seen that before, not even once.' - David Cutcliffe to Duke alumni in Washington, DC, June 2013
I guess I missed the announcement that a #1 ranking in the ACC polls entitled us to a free fill-up at the local gas station. I mean why else would so many people be upset with Joe G's article?
At least he gave a plausible reason for his choices. UVA with their system has proven they deserve the #1 slot until shown otherwise and honestly we've managed to sell UNC short for several years in a row. Our recruiting classes these past few season have been off the charts, but what hardware do we have to show for it?
Anyhow, it's a long season and we shall soon see how everything plays out, enjoy the ride.
You make a lot of sense. But that's pre-season reasoning. Who knows how the teams will play when the season starts? Well, we have some idea now. Duke thrashed the #2-ranked team in the country and everyone else had predictable wins against weak opposition. I would tilt my rankings at least a bit towards real world results. And, what's surprising is the overt "homerism" on display. Hey, Joe Giglio, put Duke #1 and say you don't believe it will last. Rather than say, in effect, "I don't believe my eyes -- Duke didn't beat Kentucky by 34 points."
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'When I got on the bus for my first road game at Duke, I saw that every player was carrying textbooks or laptops. I coached in the SEC for 25 years, and I had never seen that before, not even once.' - David Cutcliffe to Duke alumni in Washington, DC, June 2013
While I don't give any hoey about what a local sportswriter says about ACC power rankings, there is one aspect of this that I want to address because I think it is a huge fallacy.
Duke has truly embraced the one-and-done philosophy in four seasons. I say that years where we have multiple OAD players on the roster are years where the team is largely built around OAD players. Here are the seasons where that has happened:
2015 - national title
2017 - ACC tournament title
2018 - Final 8, lose in OT in a game that could have gone either way
2019 - The jury is still out, but it sure looks good so far
I'm sorry, but deeming the OAD era anything but a massive success is a joke and a product of ridiculously unrealistic expectations.
Why are you wasting time here when you could be wasting it by listening to the latest episode of the DBR Podcast?
Yup, 2014 had 1 OAD player. It is no more a OAD team than 2011 was with Kyrie Irving.
2016 was a highly successful season that included a 4-game run in the ACC tourney that is among the finest accomplishments of any Duke team that did not win a national title. Yeah, they ran into a buzz saw in what amounted to a road game in the NCAA tourney, which was really disappointing, but that season was hardly a poor one.
It is possible he is talking about the 2012 loss to Lehigh, but Austin Rivers was the only OAD player on a team that was otherwise full of experienced players. I don't know how anyone could see that as some failure of the OAD embrace.
Why are you wasting time here when you could be wasting it by listening to the latest episode of the DBR Podcast?
Say what you will about the presence of the one OAD on the 2012 team (and many of us have said a lot about rightfully strong feelings about that team), but without that one OAD, we wouldn't have this:
The Lehigh loss was of course painful, but that Dean Dome shot is still so, so tasty.