Test for Coach Cut - citations

[OZZIE4DUKE]

Thad Lewis and Leon Wright, both 20, were cited in chapel hill last night for underage drinking.
http://www.wral.com/sports/story/2959759/

[Karl Beem]

I'm shocked.

[Devilsfan]

College kids drinking, how amazing. We would permit them to go to war for our country and protect ALL of us at 18. Something seems very wrong here.

[Bluedawg]

College kids drinking, how amazing. We would permit them to go to war for our country and protect ALL of us at 18. Something seems very wrong here.

Right or wrong you know athletes are held to a higher standard than the average student.

[Inonehand]

Right or wrong you know athletes are held to a higher standard than the average student.

Sure they are. And that's why Coach Cutcliffe will also punish them. If they weren't athletes, only their momma would be mad. They made a mistake, will be punished, and it's over.

[gvtucker]

Sure they are. And that's why Coach Cutcliffe will also punish them. If they weren't athletes, only their momma would be mad. They made a mistake, will be punished, and it's over.

Yep.

A typical punishment for such as offense would be stadium steps at 6 AM for a week.

[wisteria]

guys need to be smarter. franklin street, Chapel Hill?

[gvtucker]

guys need to be smarter. franklin street, Chapel Hill?

Look on the bright side. Instead of drinking and getting in fights, they're just drinking now.

[Inonehand]

Look on the bright side. Instead of drinking and getting in fights, they're just drinking now.

And no BB guns. Big step forward.

[wisteria]

so... more weight loss?

Yep.

A typical punishment for such as offense would be stadium steps at 6 AM for a week.

[Bluedawg]

Yep.

A typical punishment for such as offense would be stadium steps at 6 AM for a week.

For missing class they also carry cinder blocks. i wonder what they will carry for this.

[Devilsfan]

How about making them listen to Barbara Kingsolver give a Commencement Speech? That should stop them from doing anything wrong EVER again.

[DST Fan]

How about making them listen to Barbara Kingsolver give a Commencement Speech? That should stop them from doing anything wrong EVER again.

Or, perhaps make them sit in the rain and listen to Barbara Kingsolver give a commencement speech?

[davekay1971]

At least they didn't jump off a balcony into a wading pool. That would've been REALLY stupid.

Kids these days...I never drank at Duke until I was 21 AND all my studying was complete. Shammrog can testify to that (got a smoke to go with my suds, Rog?)

[Olympic Fan]

As others have posted, underage drinking by college students is hardly the worst or most unusual crime out there. However, it is a crime and does deserve punishment -- especially from scholarship athletes who ARE held to a higher standard of conduct.

I don't see this one as a big test for Coach Cut ... I'm sure the two players will be punished and that their punishment will take the form of some kind of brutal running regime -- I recall when Richmond Flowers was cited for the same thing, I know that to punish him, Coach Goldsmith took him to the practice field and had him run sprints until he puked ...

Over the years, a number of Duke athletes have been cited for this violation -- Hurley and Wojo are two who come to mind. I can't recall any of them ever missing a game or even sitting out a portion of a game as punishment. I is ALWAYS handled internally.

Multiple offenses ... that would be different. Drunk driving, that would be different. But underage drinking -- well, I'm glad the drinking age was 21 when I was in college.

[watzone]

Multiple offenses ... that would be different. Drunk driving, that would be different. But underage drinking -- well, I'm glad the drinking age was 21 when I was in college.
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You mean 18, right? I thought us old schools fellas benefited from the law being under 18.

[davekay1971]

Multiple offenses ... that would be different. Drunk driving, that would be different. But underage drinking -- well, I'm glad the drinking age was 21 when I was in college.
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You mean 18, right? I thought us old schools fellas benefited from the law being under 18.

Heck, the drinking age was 21 when I was at Duke, and I spent most of my freshman year blasted. Sure, Coach K begged me repeatedly to come out for the team ("Hurley?!" Coach K said to me, "Hurley?! You think I can win a national championship with Hurley running the point? I need ya, Dave! Duke needs ya!"). But I turned him down so that I could continue to swill alcohol in a consequence-free environement.

[Bob Green]

Heck, the drinking age was 21 when I was at Duke, and I spent most of my freshman year blasted. Sure, Coach K begged me repeatedly to come out for the team ("Hurley?!" Coach K said to me, "Hurley?! You think I can win a national championship with Hurley running the point? I need ya, Dave! Duke needs ya!"). But I turned him down so that I could continue to swill alcohol in a consequence-free environement.

So it is your fault we didn't win three or four National Champioships in a row!

[OZZIE4DUKE]

Multiple offenses ... that would be different. Drunk driving, that would be different. But underage drinking -- well, I'm glad the drinking age was 21 when I was in college.
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You mean 18, right? I thought us old schools fellas benefited from the law being under 18.

I'm sure as heck glad the drinking age for beer and wine was 18 when I was in school (hard liquor was 21), and now that I'm not in the running for AD, I'm with FDA in believing it should be lowered, if not to 18 then 19 or 20. Drunk driving deaths are up again, not because of underage drinking (which does occur and the 21 age limit doesn't seem to inhibit kids indulging), but mostly because of illegal aliens driving drunk. Three more dead in one accident in Raleigh last month. But that's not pertinent to this conversation.

Both our athletes are 20 and "blew" 0.3, well below the federally mandated age 21 limit of 0.8 for DWI/DUI. Under 21, the illegal limit for blood alcohol level is 0.1 (anything over 0.0). But these guys were walking on Franklin St., not driving, so I don't understand what the offense is, other drinking under age and/or carrying an open containers in chapel hill.

If I were AD, my recommendation to Coach Cut on punishment would be for the entire team to run steps, a lot of steps, as group punishment so everyone on the team wouldn't want to repeat the stupidity of public drinking again. The players should also be counseled on the evils of drinking at all, just to make (at the risk of moving this to the PP board) all the "do gooders" happy (which I think is a waste of time).

[cspan37421]

Both our athletes are 20 and "blew" 0.3, well below the federally mandated age 21 limit of 0.8 for DWI/DUI. Under 21, the illegal limit for blood alcohol level is 0.1 (anything over 0.0).

Isn't the federal DUI limit for highway funds 0.08%, not 0.8? I think you might be dead at 0.8%. Similarly, if our guys blew 0.3%, they'd be passed out drunk, or worse.