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  1. #17241
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    Quote Originally Posted by weezie View Post
    Went to the dentist today where the dismissive chatter was about research indicating that flossing was not all that effective.

    What utterly ridiculous baloney.
    Being a retired dental specialist, I can tell you with all honesty, you only have to floss the teeth you want to keep.

    ricks

  2. #17242
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    Exclamation

    Basically:

    Plaque causes gingivitis. Gingivitis is inflammation caused by the irritation of the tissue surrounding the teeth by the toxins released as waste products of the bacteria within the plaque. Since (supposedly) the presence of inflammation, only, results in no permanent damage to the tissues, why floss? I can only imagine that this is probably the stupid, short-sighted logic gleaned from the latest research conducted by the "evidence based" lemmings that have contributed to the deterioration of the dental profession the past 30 years or so.

    The "researchers" pointed to the fact that many past studies have been extremely short-term, and therefore, totally unreliable. Stupid, stupid people. Try these facts on for size: Plaque begins to turn into calculus (calcium deposits) after approximately 24 hours. (The calcium precipitates out of saliva, settling within the "skeletons" [functioning as a matrix] of the dead bacteria in the plaque.) The combination of the calculus and the plaque that is now present (and obviously increasing, if not removed constantly) that invades the tissue (gingiva) surrounding the teeth irritates the heck out of the bone beneath the tissue, also. The bone begins to resorb and remodel to get away from the irritation. As the calculus builds up over time beneath the gingiva surrounding the teeth, bone is most often permanently lost. This is what periodontal disease is. If the short studies concerning plaque referred to as unreliable by the "researchers" were longer, they would be tainted by the influence of the presence of a considerable amount of calculus, and no longer be a result of the effects of mainly the plaque.

    So, it ain't the plaque in its initial form that is the cause of periodontal disease, it's what it becomes that does the trick. If it is removed, or even just disrupted, on a daily basis, calculus has trouble forming in any appreciable amount. Therefore, if one flosses every day, it prevents periodontal disease.

    As far as the decay situation, flossing removes the bacteria that remains between the teeth that brushing does not, and cannot, remove. Therefore, the acidic toxins produced by the bacteria in the plaque that break down the enamel situated in areas between teeth are now removed by the floss. The result is no decay initiated in the areas between the teeth.

    Just imagine how much additional income that would be generated for dentists if just a small fraction of the populace stopped flossing---------and think of what the public would then be paying monetarily and in lost teeth.

    I hope I explained these factual concepts well enough to convince the members of DBR (other than Wheat, of course) to floss.

    (UNCheat people aren't educated enough to understand what I explained, anyway--------and I certainly would not want to say anything that would be of benefit to them)

    By the way, it's almost 3 a.m., and I am not going to take the time to edit my run-on sentences or additional bad grammar. Sorry. I have got to get some sleep.

    ricks

  3. #17243
    Hmmmm, you must have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

  4. #17244
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    Raleigh
    Quote Originally Posted by ricks68 View Post
    Basically:

    Plaque causes gingivitis. Gingivitis is inflammation caused by the irritation of the tissue surrounding the teeth by the toxins released as waste products of the bacteria within the plaque. Since (supposedly) the presence of inflammation, only, results in no permanent damage to the tissues, why floss? I can only imagine that this is probably the stupid, short-sighted logic gleaned from the latest research conducted by the "evidence based" lemmings that have contributed to the deterioration of the dental profession the past 30 years or so.

    The "researchers" pointed to the fact that many past studies have been extremely short-term, and therefore, totally unreliable. Stupid, stupid people. Try these facts on for size: Plaque begins to turn into calculus (calcium deposits) after approximately 24 hours. (The calcium precipitates out of saliva, settling within the "skeletons" [functioning as a matrix] of the dead bacteria in the plaque.) The combination of the calculus and the plaque that is now present (and obviously increasing, if not removed constantly) that invades the tissue (gingiva) surrounding the teeth irritates the heck out of the bone beneath the tissue, also. The bone begins to resorb and remodel to get away from the irritation. As the calculus builds up over time beneath the gingiva surrounding the teeth, bone is most often permanently lost. This is what periodontal disease is. If the short studies concerning plaque referred to as unreliable by the "researchers" were longer, they would be tainted by the influence of the presence of a considerable amount of calculus, and no longer be a result of the effects of mainly the plaque.

    So, it ain't the plaque in its initial form that is the cause of periodontal disease, it's what it becomes that does the trick. If it is removed, or even just disrupted, on a daily basis, calculus has trouble forming in any appreciable amount. Therefore, if one flosses every day, it prevents periodontal disease.

    As far as the decay situation, flossing removes the bacteria that remains between the teeth that brushing does not, and cannot, remove. Therefore, the acidic toxins produced by the bacteria in the plaque that break down the enamel situated in areas between teeth are now removed by the floss. The result is no decay initiated in the areas between the teeth.

    Just imagine how much additional income that would be generated for dentists if just a small fraction of the populace stopped flossing---------and think of what the public would then be paying monetarily and in lost teeth.

    I hope I explained these factual concepts well enough to convince the members of DBR (other than Wheat, of course) to floss.

    (UNCheat people aren't educated enough to understand what I explained, anyway--------and I certainly would not want to say anything that would be of benefit to them)

    By the way, it's almost 3 a.m., and I am not going to take the time to edit my run-on sentences or additional bad grammar. Sorry. I have got to get some sleep.

    ricks
    You must spread some Comments around before commenting on ricks68 again.

    Somebody please throw this man some floss, err, sporks.
    [redacted] them and the horses they rode in on.

  5. #17245
    Quote Originally Posted by devildeac View Post
    You must spread some Comments around before commenting on ricks68 again.

    Somebody please throw this man some floss, err, sporks.
    Done.

  6. #17246
    Quote Originally Posted by DukieInKansas View Post
    Will you please come visit me in Kansas? I need someone to stand over me with a whip so I get rid of crap. I'm a packrat that wants to change her ways. I have wine - lots and lots of wine. (So being a packrat isn't all bad. )
    I think I'm more of a ruler smacker. The whip makes too much noise and I prefer the element of surprise. Crap-canning of junk is a grind but the image of a clean space afterwards is the best reward. It's the time factor that is probably the most daunting barrier when you're clearing out. So I'll drink the wine, you keep working till I say you can quit!

    And hail to the flossers! I love my dentist.
    Nothing incites bodily violence quicker than a Duke fan turning in your direction and saying 'scoreboard.'

  7. #17247
    My new nickname should be "Threadkiller".

  8. #17248
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    Quote Originally Posted by devildeac View Post
    You must spread some Comments around before commenting on ricks68 again.

    Somebody please throw this man some floss, err, sporks.
    Quote Originally Posted by YmoBeThere View Post
    Done.
    And done!
    Ozzie, your paradigm of optimism!

    Go To Hell carolina, Go To Hell!
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  9. #17249
    And we thought your days of promiscuity were over!

  10. #17250
    FWIW, the most amazing sports feat of the weekend may be Jim Furyk's 58 at the Travelers Championship. At 46, he is older than I am. As ARod and Ichiro wind down their careers, Duncan recently retiring, my contemporaries/semi-contemporaries are all but gone from the fields of competition. Tom Brady and some golfers are about it.

  11. #17251
    Hard to believe I might have to consider selling a kidney to afford re-asphalting the driveway.
    It's flabbergasting!
    Nothing incites bodily violence quicker than a Duke fan turning in your direction and saying 'scoreboard.'

  12. #17252
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    Quote Originally Posted by weezie View Post
    Hard to believe I might have to consider selling a kidney to afford re-asphalting the driveway.
    It's flabbergasting!
    You have two kidneys.

    You only have one driveway.

    Not sure why this is a difficult decision, really.

  13. #17253
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    Quote Originally Posted by weezie View Post
    Hard to believe I might have to consider selling a kidney to afford re-asphalting the driveway.
    It's flabbergasting!
    Quote Originally Posted by OldPhiKap View Post
    You have two kidneys.

    You only have one driveway.

    Not sure why this is a difficult decision, really.
    This is why I still hang around the LTE. Damn funny stuff.

    Ymm, Beer is much funner though and more edjumacational. (sic)
    [redacted] them and the horses they rode in on.

  14. #17254
    Quote Originally Posted by OldPhiKap View Post
    You have two kidneys.

    You only have one driveway.

    Not sure why this is a difficult decision, really.
    I must spread more comments around...

  15. #17255
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    Quote Originally Posted by YmoBeThere View Post
    I must spread more comments around...
    I've sporked OPK so many times, Mrs. dd is beginning to get suspicious.
    [redacted] them and the horses they rode in on.

  16. #17256
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    Quote Originally Posted by weezie View Post
    Hard to believe I might have to consider selling a kidney to afford re-asphalting the driveway.
    It's flabbergasting!
    I checked last week and found out that asphalt prices have fallen in half this year compared to last year due to the oil glut.

    Maybe check a few more contractors that may have a less expensive supply.

    ricks

  17. #17257
    Heading to Chucktown today for family time. Nephew Sam graduates from power school on Friday. Saturday we are going kayaking. I hope we see manatees.

  18. #17258
    Quote Originally Posted by DukieInKansas View Post
    Heading to Chucktown today for family time. Nephew Sam graduates from power school on Friday. Saturday we are going kayaking. I hope we see manatees.
    West Virginia? Or South Cackalacky?

  19. #17259
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    Quote Originally Posted by devildeac View Post
    I've sporked OPK so many times, Mrs. dd is beginning to get suspicious.
    Mrs. OPK is cool with it, she doesn't have to stop playing Candy Crush.

  20. #17260
    Quote Originally Posted by devildeac View Post
    This is why I still hang around the LTE. Damn funny stuff.

    We'd be lost without you, you old beer hound.
    Nothing incites bodily violence quicker than a Duke fan turning in your direction and saying 'scoreboard.'

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