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  1. #12641
    Quote Originally Posted by Fish80 View Post
    Traditional convertibles are great with the top down. But when the top is up your vision is limited due to the bigger post area and smaller windows. I don't like it with the top up. I feel like a rat trapped in a sinking submarine, slowly descending to the inky depths of the icy darkness.

    Some hardtop convertibles don't have the restricted vision. The BMW 3 series with the retractable hardtop combines the best of both. Buy one of those!
    Do you want to help pay for it? If so, I'll go with a BMW.

  2. #12642
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Boston area, OK, Newton, right by Heartbreak Hill
    I'm not really a car person, put the key in and turn it, if it starts, I'm good. But, and you knew that but was coming, our neighbor across the street has BMW convertible. We live in friggin' Boston so it doesn't get much top down use. I'll admit to lusting after that car. If I ever hit the big bucks, I am buying one of those things. Maybe we can start an LTE BMW convertible fund, everybody gets to have it one month of the year (I call July, it's the only month I could actually get use out of it ! )

  3. #12643
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    Mar 2008
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    Mary's Place
    OK, I'm in, even though the BMW wouldn't be my first choice. I call dibs on September.

    P.S. Language sidebar - is "dibs" a noun or a verb? I heard one of the kids I coach try to "dibs" something and had to correct him - you have to call dibs. I wonder if it's regional like pop and soda...

    EDIT: wiki thinks it's a noun... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dibs

  4. #12644
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Boston area, OK, Newton, right by Heartbreak Hill
    I say noun. But you can just point to something and say 'dibs'. Or you can say "I call dibs!". Both work for me.

  5. #12645
    Quote Originally Posted by Bostondevil View Post
    I'm not really a car person, put the key in and turn it, if it starts, I'm good. But, and you knew that but was coming, our neighbor across the street has BMW convertible. We live in friggin' Boston so it doesn't get much top down use. I'll admit to lusting after that car. If I ever hit the big bucks, I am buying one of those things. Maybe we can start an LTE BMW convertible fund, everybody gets to have it one month of the year (I call July, it's the only month I could actually get use out of it ! )
    Put me down for either May or October.

  6. #12646
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    Feb 2007
    Location
    Raleigh
    Quote Originally Posted by Turk View Post
    Let's keep talking about convertibles, since I have yet to own one but am lusting after them mightily (not even choosy about the brand)...

    Whenever I see someone driving around on a particularly fine spring day with the top up, I want to find a lawyer and revoke their convertible-owning license...

    There are so many flavors it would be hard to choose... At the low end, I could start with an old jeep - the kind where your interior cleaning is done with a garden hose and a leaf blower...
    Quote Originally Posted by devildeac View Post
    Ooohh, good topic.

    We have owned 2 in our household, a Wrangler and a Saab 900. First, the Jeep.

    Kids loved it, I hated it-sort of. Noisy, small, rough and not very economical at 16/19 MPG. We did have a manual tranny so it was kinda fun to drive. The top was a real PITA to manage and guess who got to replace the hard top when we traded it several years ago. 3 guesses, first 2 don't count. It wasn't a cheap vehicle but I did get a reasonable price as an end of year close out in December. Also got a reasonable price as a trade in after 5 years and 55K miles of ownership. We took care of it pretty well and Wranglers tend to hold their value pretty well.

    Saab thoughts later today.
    Saab thoughts now. This was a mid-life crisis car (job and career related, NOT marital!) and was a 1997 black 5 speed turbo with about 190 HP. Saab had just come up to the 20th century with some of their designs but the ignition was still between the front seats near the parking brake and shifter. It really was not that odd or inconvenient. Good front leg room and OK rear leg room for small/average adults with about a 9-10 c.ft. trunk with the top up and about 5 with the automatic up/down top stowed. A few maintenance problems all covered by warranty. Initial cost was several thousand off sticker (near or at invoice) and it got just about the EPA MPG estimates of 21/30 MPG. As the 2 older children approached driving age, turning a 5 speed turbo over to them at 16-17 years of age became a rather unattractive option so I traded at 5 years and about 60K with about $1K to $1.5K being needed in work/service on the car for, you probably guessed by now, another 5 speed Accord. Took a little beating on the trade as it was then I found out that Sabb's quirkiness didn't translate into good trade-in value. I think it was at least $5K and perhaps $7K less up front for the purchase but I would have recouped a fair amount of that on the trade-in.

    If I get another drop-top, I think it would be the hard-top convertible 3 series but I'm still not convinced I'd spend that much money on a car.

  7. #12647
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Back in Vegas... again.
    My mom has the Lexus SC hard top convertible. She's had it for... hmm... 5-6 years? I don't even think it's got 20k miles on it (she only drives around LV and if there's a group going-duh-they take my dad's Highlander). It's her mid-life crisis, but it's awesome. I told her she doesn't get to trade it in when she's done with it... it automatically goes to me. I don't think she's too on board with that.

    BTW, regarding dropping the top, I may have mentioned this here once, but I did that once on an absolutely gorgeous day in LV. I was driving her car around, and put the top down at a stoplight. It went back up at the next stoplight. 116 degrees is NOT droptop weather. I felt my skin burning in that one block!

  8. #12648
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bostondevil View Post
    I say noun. But you can just point to something and say 'dibs'. Or you can say "I call dibs!". Both work for me.
    Exactly. "Dibs!" in that situation is an exclamation, like "Suppertime!" or "Lion!" or "Airball!" But you can't say "I suppertime that piece of pizza..."

  9. #12649
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    Quote Originally Posted by sue71 View Post
    My mom has the Lexus SC hard top convertible. She's had it for... hmm... 5-6 years? I don't even think it's got 20k miles on it (she only drives around LV and if there's a group going-duh-they take my dad's Highlander). It's her mid-life crisis, but it's awesome. I told her she doesn't get to trade it in when she's done with it... it automatically goes to me. I don't think she's too on board with that.

    BTW, regarding dropping the top, I may have mentioned this here once, but I did that once on an absolutely gorgeous day in LV. I was driving her car around, and put the top down at a stoplight. It went back up at the next stoplight. 116 degrees is NOT droptop weather. I felt my skin burning in that one block!
    Definitely need garage parking for summertime use. I would be interested to find out how cold one can drive with the top down assuming a heater in good working order. When I had a car with a sunroof, I would open it up whenever the weather was sunny and temps above freezing.

  10. #12650
    My wife and I love my '97 Z3 with in-line 6 cylinder. Same horsepower as that year's Jeep grand cherokee, but half the weight and more torque. It's a pretty sweet ride. Every time I start it, I think of Mike from Monsters Inc. "It's lke I've unleashed a panther."
    LET'S GO DUKE!

  11. #12651
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    Feb 2007
    Location
    Watching carolina Go To HELL!
    Quote Originally Posted by Turk View Post
    When I had a car with a sunroof
    I had sun/moon roofs on several cars. I found there were about 7 to 10 days per year, even here, where they were appropriate. When I got my Sonata I saved the $1000 and didn't get one. But I'd love a convertible! I'm in on the BMW. I call May!
    Ozzie, your paradigm of optimism!

    Go To Hell carolina, Go To Hell!
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  12. #12652
    Quote Originally Posted by OZZIE4DUKE View Post
    I had sun/moon roofs on several cars. I found there were about 7 to 10 days per year, even here, where they were appropriate. When I got my Sonata I saved the $1000 and didn't get one. But I'd love a convertible! I'm in on the BMW. I call May!
    Really? Around here, I'll put the top down any time it's not raining between about March and November, maybe even into December. But, then, as my wife says, I'm a polar bear. I also open her sun roof any time I get the chance.
    LET'S GO DUKE!

  13. #12653
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    Apr 2009
    Location
    Southern California
    Do you prefer hard top convertibles, or cloth convertibles? I am not sure yet.

  14. #12654
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
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    Raleigh
    Quote Originally Posted by OZZIE4DUKE View Post
    I had sun/moon roofs on several cars. I found there were about 7 to 10 days per year, even here, where they were appropriate. When I got my Sonata I saved the $1000 and didn't get one. But I'd love a convertible! I'm in on the BMW. I call May!
    I'd bet I have my/our sunroofs open at least 7-10 days/month, except when things are covered with the yellow haze here for most of April. Love the open ceiling on the vehicles.

  15. #12655
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    Feb 2007
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turk View Post
    Definitely need garage parking for summertime use. I would be interested to find out how cold one can drive with the top down assuming a heater in good working order. When I had a car with a sunroof, I would open it up whenever the weather was sunny and temps above freezing.
    I'd drive around with the top down, windows up and heater on when the temps were in the mid to upper 50's, but not for long. If the humidity was fairly low with temps in the mid to upper 80's, the top would be down, too, assuming I wasn't wearing a coat and tie at the time.

  16. #12656
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    St Augustine, FL
    It was 40 degrees here this morning and I drove to work with the sunroof open and the heater on!

    By the way, what is the difference between a sunroof and a moonroof?

  17. #12657
    Quote Originally Posted by Fish80 View Post
    It was 40 degrees here this morning and I drove to work with the sunroof open and the heater on!

    By the way, what is the difference between a sunroof and a moonroof?
    I have no idea - perhaps we should start calling it a roof window?

  18. #12658
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    Feb 2007
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    Watching carolina Go To HELL!
    Quote Originally Posted by Fish80 View Post
    It was 40 degrees here this morning and I drove to work with the sunroof open and the heater on!

    By the way, what is the difference between a sunroof and a moonroof?
    Quote Originally Posted by DukieInKansas View Post
    I have no idea - perhaps we should start calling it a roof window?
    A sunroof is metal* and obviously opaque when closed. A moonroof is "glass" and you can see the moon through it when it is closed.

    *Transparent aluminum would be a moon roof
    Last edited by OZZIE4DUKE; 05-19-2009 at 09:43 AM. Reason: Added note for transparent aluminum
    Ozzie, your paradigm of optimism!

    Go To Hell carolina, Go To Hell!
    9F 9F 9F
    http://www.EGLEW.com


  19. #12659
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    Feb 2007
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    Raleigh
    Quote Originally Posted by Fish80 View Post
    It was 40 degrees here this morning and I drove to work with the sunroof open and the heater on!

    By the way, what is the difference between a sunroof and a moonroof?
    It was 46-48 degrees in Raleigh and I drove to work this AM with the sun/moonroof open and NO heater on.

    I also look forward to my trip home when it will be 30 degrees and I'll walk through a blizzard, barefooted with only a t-shirt, shorts and running shoes on. Uphill. Both ways.

    Seriously. I love having a sun/moonroof in our vehicles.

  20. #12660
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    Feb 2007
    Location
    St Augustine, FL
    Quote Originally Posted by OZZIE4DUKE View Post
    A sunroof is metal* and obviously opaque when closed. A moonroof is "glass" and you can see the moon through it when it is closed.

    *Transparent aluminum would be a moon roof
    Seriously? A sunroof is metal? Then perhaps I've never seen a sunroof.

    A transparent convertible top would then be a moonible?

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