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  1. #53121
    Lawn isn't coming in very well.

  2. #53122
    Quote Originally Posted by YmoBeThere View Post
    Lawn isn't coming in very well.
    No rain.

    Blind Melon shoulda told ya.

  3. #53123
    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15 View Post
    No rain.

    Blind Melon shoulda told ya.
    Great. Now I have the overwhelming urge to dance around in a bee outfit. Again.

  4. #53124
    What does anyone know about single direct drive house fans, as opposed to the "attic fan" style house fan I grew up with? Looks like a much simpler install?

  5. #53125
    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15 View Post
    What does anyone know about single direct drive house fans, as opposed to the "attic fan" style house fan I grew up with? Looks like a much simpler install?

    Are you allergic to any pollens, etc.?

  6. #53126
    Quote Originally Posted by YmoBeThere View Post
    Are you allergic to any pollens, etc.?
    Not very much so. Good question. Is there a difference between the two constructions in how much it would pull in? I assume the "in" is just through the windows.

    My parents in Charlotte have had one for 40 years that's installed in the ceiling. Here in Asheville, we get much cooler evenings. Seems it would be much more effective here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YmoBeThere View Post
    Lawn isn't coming in very well.
    Did you cuss encouragement at it? Like, Eff you, fescue! Grow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15 View Post
    Not very much so. Good question. Is there a difference between the two constructions in how much it would pull in? I assume the "in" is just through the windows.

    My parents in Charlotte have had one for 40 years that's installed in the ceiling. Here in Asheville, we get much cooler evenings. Seems it would be much more effective here.
    Where do you think Asheville ranks on best mountain towns?

  9. #53129
    Quote Originally Posted by bundabergdevil View Post
    Did you cuss encouragement at it? Like, “Eff you, fescue! Grow!”
    https://youtu.be/ldioxVEFxo4

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    Last edited by -jk; 05-21-2022 at 07:44 PM. Reason: fix link

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClemmonsDevil View Post
    https://youtu.be/ldioxVEFxo4

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    Im onto your little game. Im not clicking that so I have to see you in your ittle bee costume doing your ittle buzzy wuzzy dance. Weirdo.

  11. #53131
    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15 View Post
    Not very much so. Good question. Is there a difference between the two constructions in how much it would pull in? I assume the "in" is just through the windows.

    My parents in Charlotte have had one for 40 years that's installed in the ceiling. Here in Asheville, we get much cooler evenings. Seems it would be much more effective here.
    Okay, if you did, I would wonder if it was a good idea at all as they really increase the number of air changes in a house to 3-6 times an hour. I follow a few builders who specialize in getting air changes per hour for a house down to under 1(Passive house: https://passivehouse-international.org/index.php). This includes things like bringing the attic into the building envelope/conditioned space. Then you use something like this to provide filtered air into the house. https://www.zehnderamerica.com/heat-...ilation-units/ These types of systems are great for someone who has allergies. So, an entirely different use case.

    As far as single direct drive versus an older style fan, my assumption is that the older type is belt driven. This was likely due to the type of motors available and their costs at the time of installation. With a whole house fan, you want to be careful with how much air you are moving because moving too much at once could have negative consequences. So, I would suspect that a single direct drive has a few speeds which it can be set at to compensate/adjust volume and compensate for those negative consequences.

  12. #53132
    Quote Originally Posted by bundabergdevil View Post
    Did you cuss encouragement at it? Like, Eff you, fescue! Grow!
    But if I say the type of grass I have, a whole island may get pissed off at me.

  13. #53133
    Quote Originally Posted by bundabergdevil View Post
    Im onto your little game. Im not clicking that so I have to see you in your ittle bee costume doing your ittle buzzy wuzzy dance. Weirdo.
    Well, it isn't properly linked so you can't left click it anyways. You may be able to right click and then select to open it depending upon browser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YmoBeThere View Post
    But if I say the type of grass I have, a whole island may get pissed off at me.
    St Augustine, Bermuda, or Australia?

  15. #53135
    Quote Originally Posted by YmoBeThere View Post
    Okay, if you did, I would wonder if it was a good idea at all as they really increase the number of air changes in a house to 3-6 times an hour. I follow a few builders who specialize in getting air changes per hour for a house down to under 1(Passive house: https://passivehouse-international.org/index.php). This includes things like bringing the attic into the building envelope/conditioned space. Then you use something like this to provide filtered air into the house. https://www.zehnderamerica.com/heat-...ilation-units/ These types of systems are great for someone who has allergies. So, an entirely different use case.

    As far as single direct drive versus an older style fan, my assumption is that the older type is belt driven. This was likely due to the type of motors available and their costs at the time of installation. With a whole house fan, you want to be careful with how much air you are moving because moving too much at once could have negative consequences. So, I would suspect that a single direct drive has a few speeds which it can be set at to compensate/adjust volume and compensate for those negative consequences.
    Well, in my experience, "3-6 times an hour" isn't too relevant, because it takes maybe 20 minutes to cool the air and then you turn it off. Which is the main attraction vis a vis the AC.

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    Wish yall would stop having a serious conversation in the middle of our weird little thing about bee suits and grass.

  17. #53137
    Quote Originally Posted by bundabergdevil View Post
    Wish yall would stop having a serious conversation in the middle of our weird little thing about bee suits and grass.
    All I can say is that my life is pretty plain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15 View Post
    All I can say is that my life is pretty plain.
    You dont like my point of view?

  19. #53139
    Quote Originally Posted by bundabergdevil View Post
    St Augustine, Bermuda, or Australia?

    Bermuda...

  20. #53140
    Quote Originally Posted by Mtn.Devil.91.92.01.10.15 View Post
    Well, in my experience, "3-6 times an hour" isn't too relevant, because it takes maybe 20 minutes to cool the air and then you turn it off. Which is the main attraction vis a vis the AC.
    Lol, doing a little contextual analysis you've demonstrated my sizing point. If it changes out all the air 3 times an hour, how long for it to exchange all the air in the house once? 20 minutes. And if it changes out all the air 6 times an hour, how long to exchange all the air one time? 10 minutes...

    it takes maybe 20 minutes to cool the air

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